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Old 11-28-2015, 11:06 PM   #1
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Crediting Vince with getting the New Day over is hilarious. It's well documented that he intended for the group to be faces, and he could not understand at all why the group was getting booed to shit for months. He actually thought they were going to win over the crowds and especially the African-American demographic with that shit.

The members themselves acknowledged that Vince never saw them as a heel group. They basically turned themselves heel by realizing their reactions were terrible. At that point they no longer gave a fuck and had really nothing to lose so they decided to just have fun with it and it's worked spectacularly well, to the point where Vince can't go back to the original plan.

New Day has thrived in spite of Vince, not because of him.
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Old 11-29-2015, 12:55 AM   #2
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Crediting Vince with getting the New Day over is hilarious. It's well documented that he intended for the group to be faces, and he could not understand at all why the group was getting booed to shit for months. He actually thought they were going to win over the crowds and especially the African-American demographic with that shit.

The members themselves acknowledged that Vince never saw them as a heel group. They basically turned themselves heel by realizing their reactions were terrible. At that point they no longer gave a fuck and had really nothing to lose so they decided to just have fun with it and it's worked spectacularly well, to the point where Vince can't go back to the original plan.

New Day has thrived in spite of Vince, not because of him.
Yes but did Vince or HHH say that in an interview? Nope? Sorry It does not matter if the talent says it. Needs it to come from Vince or HHH.
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:19 AM   #3
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Yes but did Vince or HHH say that in an interview? Nope? Sorry It does not matter if the talent says it. Needs it to come from Vince or HHH.
How dare you question the Almighty Meltzer or the Gospel PWI with your logical skepticism..... If you read something quoted from "an anonymous source" your better believe it's the truth!
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Old 11-29-2015, 06:33 PM   #4
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Crediting Vince with getting the New Day over is hilarious. It's well documented that he intended for the group to be faces, and he could not understand at all why the group was getting booed to shit for months. He actually thought they were going to win over the crowds and especially the African-American demographic with that shit.

The members themselves acknowledged that Vince never saw them as a heel group. They basically turned themselves heel by realizing their reactions were terrible. At that point they no longer gave a fuck and had really nothing to lose so they decided to just have fun with it and it's worked spectacularly well, to the point where Vince can't go back to the original plan.

New Day has thrived in spite of Vince, not because of him.
Who said 'Vince could not understand why they were getting booed'?

At the end of the day Vince will be proven right. They are 3 black guys, basically playing over the top preachers, talking about positivity. They will be full fledged babyfaces at some point in 2016.

I dont see how you can say they succeeded in spite of Vince. He took three characters that were aimless as singles, and put them together. Vince has said on many occasions that he listens to the crowd. He repackaged New Day, and maybe he did think they would catch on babyfaces right off the bat. They didnt, so he listened to the fans, and turned them heel. Now you can see the fans starting to take to them (as Vince expected to happen) and they will likely go babyface at some point.

What I will say in this case, is the New Day guys took the Unicorn by the horn, and rather than just drowning when the gimmick didnt catch on in the exact way as first laid out, they adapted, and added their own flare. No different than how Rock rolled with the punches when he was getting booed, and created a character that turned into a massive success. But he still needed Vince to buy in to the shift, just like New Day would have has to sell Vince on what they are doing now. Its a joint effort between Vince and the talent.
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:17 PM   #5
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At the end of the day Vince will be proven right. They are 3 black guys, basically playing over the top preachers, talking about positivity. They will be full fledged babyfaces at some point in 2016.
Wow. You cunt.
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