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Old 12-11-2015, 12:13 PM   #1
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Exactly. Actually putting forth effort to make a character appeal to as many demographics as possible draws in fans. Going out of your way to not do that is fucking dumb. I feel like I'm repeating myself but this point is clearly not getting through.

Like I said when that quote was first made, I'm pretty sure that was CyNick setting the wheels in motion so that whenever WWE fails to produce a face of the company who is universally loved he can say "It's not that they're bad at writing a character that appeals to grown men and women who actually need depth and a story to be entertained. They're INTENTIONALLY making the character unappealing. It's genius. You guys don't get it."
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:16 PM   #2
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Exactly. Actually putting forth effort to make a character appeal to as many demographics as possible draws in fans. Going out of your way to not do that is fucking dumb. I feel like I'm repeating myself but this point is clearly not getting through.

Like I said when that quote was first made, I'm pretty sure that was CyNick setting the wheels in motion so that whenever WWE fails to produce a face of the company who is universally loved he can say "It's not that they're bad at writing a character that appeals to grown men and women who actually need depth and a story to be entertained. They're INTENTIONALLY making the character unappealing. It's genius. You guys don't get it."
I would say its harder now to create a universally liked star than anytime in history. The fans who dont like Reigns I believe will reject anyone who they feel the company is behind.

You have to trick those people into thinking they created the star, like Daniel Bryan.
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Old 12-11-2015, 08:25 PM   #3
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I would say its harder now to create a universally liked star than anytime in history. The fans who dont like Reigns I believe will reject anyone who they feel the company is behind.
Or they're grown adults who enjoy more depth in a TV character than 9 year old kids will settle for. But let's pretend the only people who Roman Reigns doesn't appeal to are marks. That must be why more and more casual fans are swarming to the product on a weekly basis, right? Because Reigns is so appealing to them.
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I would say its harder now to create a universally liked star than anytime in history. The fans who dont like Reigns I believe will reject anyone who they feel the company is behind.

You have to trick those people into thinking they created the star, like Daniel Bryan.
Let's ignore your first sentence because nothing in the history of anything has ever been universally liked.

If the obvious manufactured "stars" are failing then why would you not actually get behind those guys that get over organically? There's a long list of guys WWE could actually push and wouldn't have a backlash over, not even just at the top of the card. Why actively try to cool somebody off by removing them from TV or having them job every week or bury them beyond repair when you can use that positive reaction to improve your overall product top to bottom? They very reluctantly went with Bryan last minute after Punk quit and HHH had nothing to do at Mania, then again went all the way with him when the crowds shit all over Bryan vs HHH being the end game of that years TV while the lukewarm Orton took on a rusty manufactured babyface in Batista. If you want to believe that it was all genius anti booking then fine, but Bryan himself has stated he was going to face Sheamus and ignoring that just makes your counterpoint pure fanaticism.

Kids are the easiest to sell to because they are kids, they haven't fully formed ideas on who has a better workrate or who cuts the best promo or who is the most entertaining, they'll accept whoever is at the top of the card as evidenced by the woeful Roman Reigns selling a lot of merch just because he's being made to look STRONG and constantly telling them "Hey everyone, Roman Reigns is a good wrestler!".
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