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Old 01-26-2016, 12:52 PM   #1
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I don't so much care when The Rock verbally jousts with people like Triple H or Cena because they're more or less portrayed to be at the "same level"...I just never really got the point of him running down midcarders. They're obviously going to just end up being made to look stupid and it'll further reinforce the casual fan's assumption that the old Attitude Era guys are way better and more important than any of the current talent.

At least the New Day are meant to be goofballs anyway. But that Rusev shit last year (well 2014 now I guess) when Rusev was undefeated and in the middle of his US Title run? Looked like a chump and Lana got slut shamed simply for being a woman. I just don't really know what they were trying to accomplish. Sure they got a pop from the audience but you made one of your top up and coming heels look like a buffoon.
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I don't so much care when The Rock verbally jousts with people like Triple H or Cena because they're more or less portrayed to be at the "same level"...I just never really got the point of him running down midcarders. They're obviously going to just end up being made to look stupid and it'll further reinforce the casual fan's assumption that the old Attitude Era guys are way better and more important than any of the current talent.

At least the New Day are meant to be goofballs anyway. But that Rusev shit last year (well 2014 now I guess) when Rusev was undefeated and in the middle of his US Title run? Looked like a chump and Lana got slut shamed simply for being a woman. I just don't really know what they were trying to accomplish. Sure they got a pop from the audience but you made one of your top up and coming heels look like a buffoon.
it's the casual fan's assumption (as well as every other kind of wrestling fan, promoter, writer, performer and so forth) that Rock is better and more important because he is more important and that's just how it is, not everybody can be on the same level. Rock has been doing his schtick forever, it's what people want to see him do. Do you expect him to do his "Rock act" with guys like Triple H, Cena and so on and then suddenly treat the midcarders like some kind of threat? He treats everybody the same, if somebody comes off looking worse than others, that isn't his problem, it's theirs.

That said, pointing that out in itself is daft because it's not even a problem. Working with The Rock is bulletproof, interacting with The Rock and being called silly names and taking a Rock Bottom does literally no damage to anybody. If anything, it's quite the opposite, they're interacting with one of the biggest stars in the history of the business, it entertains (nearly) everybody and is forgotten about a week later. Go and ask Kofi Kingston, Big E, Xavier Woods and Rusev whether they'd rather have had the chance to be on TV with him or not, I think you know what the answer will be. Not to mention it's something to aspire to for nearly every guy in the locker room. You think most of those guys didn't watch that entire segment and were like "fuck me, I need to be in that position one day"? Not everything in pro wrestling is about making absolute perfect sense and having it all slot neatly together in an HBO drama kind of way. For the most part, it just needs to be entertaining and for the crowd to make some noise. That's what they're trying to accomplish.
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When Rock does these one offs, I've read that he basically picks who to work with which is where Rusev and New Day have come into it. He also said he wanted to take the title off Punk for the WM match against Cena which is why they had the 2 matches because Rock thought it would be a great program (and he was right).
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it's the casual fan's assumption (as well as every other kind of wrestling fan, promoter, writer, performer and so forth) that Rock is better and more important because he is more important and that's just how it is, not everybody can be on the same level. Rock has been doing his schtick forever, it's what people want to see him do. Do you expect him to do his "Rock act" with guys like Triple H, Cena and so on and then suddenly treat the midcarders like some kind of threat? He treats everybody the same, if somebody comes off looking worse than others, that isn't his problem, it's theirs.

That said, pointing that out in itself is daft because it's not even a problem. Working with The Rock is bulletproof, interacting with The Rock and being called silly names and taking a Rock Bottom does literally no damage to anybody. If anything, it's quite the opposite, they're interacting with one of the biggest stars in the history of the business, it entertains (nearly) everybody and is forgotten about a week later. Go and ask Kofi Kingston, Big E, Xavier Woods and Rusev whether they'd rather have had the chance to be on TV with him or not, I think you know what the answer will be. Not to mention it's something to aspire to for nearly every guy in the locker room. You think most of those guys didn't watch that entire segment and were like "fuck me, I need to be in that position one day"? Not everything in pro wrestling is about making absolute perfect sense and having it all slot neatly together in an HBO drama kind of way. For the most part, it just needs to be entertaining and for the crowd to make some noise. That's what they're trying to accomplish.
I guess. I mean yeah I can see it always makes the crowd pop and I'm sure the boys love to be involved with it, maybe I've just "outgrown" it to a degree, partly because it comes at the expense of the current roster but also just because I've seen it so many times. I was ecstatic when The Rock came back in early 2011 but since he's come back multiple times a year again for me it's just been like "okay then..."

I did go ahead and watch last night's segment and I can concede that yes, that was the best one The Rock's done in a while (imo). I didn't really think the Lana slut shaming bit was necessary but beyond that he didn't big time anybody and it worked because The New Day are meant to be goofballs anyway and you could tell Rock thought they were genuinely hilarious (which they are). Way better than the one he did with Rusev in 2014, that one just made me cringe.
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