Raw rating lowest since July 2012

[BigCrippyZ]

By the way, like CyNick, if Vince truly thinks that ratings don't matter anymore and WWE doesn't care about them, why did Vince randomly come back to TV as a character? What was the point if not to drive up the ratings?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

In all fairness to Vince, he needs to be positive at these conferences. I would never expect him to be doom and gloom. He's going to present himself as successful because well.... He is and so is his company.

I appreciated Meltzers reporting of the conference, as it makes the solid points of yeah the company is just fine and the ratings drop means very little short term, but could be very detrimental long term if you can't retain your viewers or garner any new viewership. The streaming excuse iseh at best, as other programming does not suffer the same fate.

[BigCrippyZ]

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead In all fairness to Vince, he needs to be positive at these conferences. I would never expect him to be doom and gloom. He's going to present himself as successful because well.... He is and so is his company. I appreciated Meltzers reporting of the conference, as it makes the solid points of yeah the company is just fine and the ratings drop means very little short term, but could be very detrimental long term if you can't retain your viewers or garner any new viewership. The streaming excuse iseh at best, as other programming does not suffer the same fate.

Absolutely. I don't expect Vince to be anything but positive on these calls nor do I expect Vince to be 100% honest, outside of his legal fiduciary duties to be honest with the shareholders regarding finances, obviously.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ Absolutely. I don't expect Vince to be anything but positive on these calls nor do I expect Vince to be 100% honest, outside of his legal fiduciary duties to be honest with the shareholders regarding finances, obviously.

He's not there to be a cheerleader. He cant outright lie on these conferences. If he does, WWE will be up shit creek. They are already in hot water when Vince was doing a bit of carny talk when the Network first launched. I think he learned his lesson.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead In all fairness to Vince, he needs to be positive at these conferences. I would never expect him to be doom and gloom. He's going to present himself as successful because well.... He is and so is his company. I appreciated Meltzers reporting of the conference, as it makes the solid points of yeah the company is just fine and the ratings drop means very little short term, but could be very detrimental long term if you can't retain your viewers or garner any new viewership. The streaming excuse iseh at best, as other programming does not suffer the same fate.

This is the nonsense I am talking about. I was subscribing to Meltzer's rag in 2000, and he was saying the EXACT SAME SHIT then. "Ratings are down 8%, it doesnt mean anything now, but long term it could". Meanwhile every year they grow their TV rights fees. If you want to listen to someone out of their depth, listen to Uncle Dave talk WWE Finances.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ By the way, like CyNick, if Vince truly thinks that ratings don't matter anymore and WWE doesn't care about them, why did Vince randomly come back to TV as a character? What was the point if not to drive up the ratings?

Because it fit into the storylines and to drive overall interest in the product.

If you bothered to listen to what Vince said, he talked about how they want to drive overall interest in the product. They cant force the WWE Universe to watch in one particular way. Some like to watch the full show on cable (week in week out the highest watched show on Monday nights), some on You Tube (one of if not the biggest You Tube channel), or the Network (top 5 in its class).