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Old 04-04-2016, 12:02 AM   #1
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Almost exclusively terrible:

Ladder match: Fine, but weird to end it by putting it on someone who hadn't be hyped at all
Jericho/Styles: Fine again, but a weird decision to job AJ
League of Nations/New Day: Just embarrassed for the four in the LoNs. Waste of talent
Lesnar/Ambrose: So short and anti-climatic
Women's Match: Highlight, best match by far
Undertaker/Shane: A couple of good spots but not that entertaining
Battle Royale: Happy with ending in otherwise dull match
The Rock and Wyatt segement: Killing one of the WWEs best potential assets
Reigns/HHH: Booking decisions aside, was also a fucking dull match
Strange to read so many negative comments on here.

Reading the live updates, I figured the PPV was pretty good?!

I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.

I agree with Road Doggy Dogg that the Wyatt's have been in this instance one too many times, but it will be easy to repush them/re-establish credibility if the WWE so chooses it.

Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:03 AM   #2
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I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.
Oh come on... lol
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:06 AM   #3
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Oh come on... lol
Back in 2012, DX destroyed Damien Sandow on the 1000th episode but it actually helped Sandow (albeit, briefly).
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Back in 2012, DX destroyed Damien Sandow on the 1000th episode but it actually helped Sandow (albeit, briefly).
It helped him? Because I remember him completely changing gimmicks soon after. Unless there was an explanation that the beatdown turned him retarded and made him go from a genius to a guy who just impersonates people, I don't think it helped him.
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Strange to read so many negative comments on here.

Reading the live updates, I figured the PPV was pretty good?!

I disagree with people being upset over LON's and the Wyatt's. Any time you get air time with a Stone Cold, Foley, HBK, Rocky, Cena, etc., you are getting a gift.

I agree with Road Doggy Dogg that the Wyatt's have been in this instance one too many times, but it will be easy to repush them/re-establish credibility if the WWE so chooses it.

Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
It came across bland. Some stuff was cool, but after watching takeover dallas, this shit just seems so out of date.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:20 AM   #6
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Why aren't more people happy to see Ryder going over big time?.........or that Kalisto guy getting a solid win over Ryback?

Can't please em' all?
In the case of Kalisto, and kind of related to your theory of sharing air-time with legends, I think it's more a case of the quality of what we're seeing, rather than the fact we're seeing it.

Kalisto has two wins over Ryback now, clean. Should be a big deal, but nobody really gives a fuck because the matches were pretty boring. I like both guys, but long matches do not favor Ryback, especially when his opponent is a midget who he should be eating for breakfast.

Likewise for Kalisto, they would probably be able to showcase him better, working in matches where he can fly around a bit and show what he can do, rather than going in matches with guys who's matches shouldn't last more than two minutes.

As for the legends thing, it's like I said above about Foley/Orton. Even if Orton had lost that feud in 2004, it'd have showcased what he could do and give him some legit exposure. Being squashed by a legend can have it's place, but when it happens EVERY FUCKING TIME it's basically saying "you'll never be as good as the Attitude Era guys". Just for once, I'd love to see Rock or Austin or someone get in a guy like Bray Wyatt's face, and for Wyatt to just hit the Sister Abigail and walk off, without being made to look like a bitch.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:30 AM   #7
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In the case of Kalisto, and kind of related to your theory of sharing air-time with legends, I think it's more a case of the quality of what we're seeing, rather than the fact we're seeing it.

Kalisto has two wins over Ryback now, clean. Should be a big deal, but nobody really gives a fuck because the matches were pretty boring. I like both guys, but long matches do not favor Ryback, especially when his opponent is a midget who he should be eating for breakfast.
I agree. It's similar to them pushing Reigns and Cena (at least in the past) as underdogs. Cena looks more than capable, especially when he always over comes the odds... and ESPECIALLY Reigns, who looks like pretty much a bad ass, mother fucking, ass kicker, who probably doesn't actually need to talk much to get over, ala Goldberg, Taker, Kane, etc.

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when it happens EVERY FUCKING TIME it's basically saying "you'll never be as good as the Attitude Era guys". Just for once, I'd love to see Rock or Austin or someone get in a guy like Bray Wyatt's face, and for Wyatt to just hit the Sister Abigail and walk off, without being made to look like a bitch.
I agree, it's been over done to the point it's become an issue, where it's actively preventing newer talent from getting over or reaching the level of the past stars. Unfortunately, Vince doesn't seem to care enough to realize this and/or do something different.
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