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Old 07-17-2016, 10:36 PM   #401
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They'll push it up eventually though. They'll sign a whole bunch of cruiserweights or give Shane more talky time if they need to.
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Wish they would just have left the entire Womens division on Raw instead of giving Raw more draft picks.
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How long til Smackdown is 3 hours
I agree with Ruien. Women should be exclusive to Raw. By giving Raw 3 picks to SD 2 already is setting the precedent that Raw is still the superior show. SD needs to be 3 hours as well in my opinion.
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Old 07-17-2016, 11:30 PM   #404
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I don't really think giving Raw extra picks makes SmackDown look inferior. It makes sense. I always assumed they would be given a larger roster because they have an extra hour to fill. If you split the roster right down the middle you'd actually wind up with SmackDown guys struggling to get booked.

I do think it's kinda dumb to arbitrarily award Raw the first pick and it probably should have been a "coin toss" or something but whatever.
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I would like to see the Women's division exclusive to Raw with SmackDown bringing in cruiserweights.
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Old 07-18-2016, 01:15 AM   #406
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So based on what the article says it sounds like it'll go Raw-SD-Raw-SD-Raw and then repeat.

I can't imagine they do the entire draft on TV, so just assuming they give SmackDown 10 picks on the live broadcast I could see it shaking out like this:

Raw: Seth Rollins
SmackDown: John Cena
Raw: Roman Reigns
SmackDown: Dean Ambrose
Raw: Brock Lesnar

Raw: Randy Orton
SmackDown: AJ Styles
Raw: Charlotte
SmackDown: The New Day
Raw: Kevin Owens

Raw: Sami Zayn
SmackDown: Rusev
Raw: The Miz
SmackDown: Chris Jericho
Raw: Sasha Banks

Raw: Bayley
SmackDown: Finn Balor
Raw: Bray Wyatt
SmackDown: Gallows and Anderson
Raw: Alberto Del Rio

Raw: Cesaro
SmackDown: Sheamus
Raw: Apollo Crews
SmackDown: Enzo and Cass

I think that covers most of the "big names" that WWE would want to have picked on the actual broadcast along with a few NXT picks to pop the crowd. It doesn't sound like champions float so it would make sense for Raw and SmackDown to shy away from women's wrestlers/tag teams once they lose that championship...although I would assume Raw would end up creating their own tag belts in this scenario while SmackDown will add the Cruiserweight Title or something eventually.

It feels somewhat ridiculous for the WWE Champion to not be picked first (unless Rollins wins it on Raw) but given that Stephanie seems to hate Ambrose she could just play the odds that drafting Rollins and Reigns will secure the championship for Raw at Battleground. We all know they're creating a second World Title anyway.
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U guys remember when HHH got drafted to SD and they traded like 9 people to get him back
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lol @ raw getting more draft picks than SD, so typical
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Haha ya. Wasn't it a bunch of scrubs and Booker T though?
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Even if they did, there will probably still be a supplemental draft like in years past, and possibly trades too.
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Even if they did, there will probably still be a supplemental draft like in years past, and possibly trades too.
I believe the whole roster is going to be "drafted" like that, just some of it will be off TV, so when they divide up the non-TV picks, they'll still be keeping it 3-2 in terms of numbers of wrestlers.
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I'm just not a fan of the 3 to 2 picks model. Just sounds dumb to me when you are trying to have the two shows compete against one another and they are already making Raw more important than SD. I could care less about the third hour and could have been easily filled by having the Women exclusive to Raw.
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Still don't really see how it makes SmackDown seem less important. It's logic. There are 5 hours of TV a week, and Raw is 60% of it so splitting the roster along those lines makes sense.

Maybe they could have had each show make 10 picks and THEN have Raw get 3 for every 2...but that complicates things. And when you consider that Raw will probably take a guy like Lesnar who will rarely ever appear it's not a big deal.
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To me to have the brand split be successful you have to have 2 brands that are equal but different. It just feels to me that Raw will still be treated as the superior show. They get more picks as well as the first pick. It might turn out alright but I'm just not a fan of the rules they have for the draft. Wish Smackdown was going to be 3 hours so they wouldn't have this situation.
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Just noticed the Lucha Dragons got randomly disbanded as a team based on WWE's list.

Was thinking they'd have the best shot at getting broken up and the WWE didn't even bother to wait for the draft to do it.
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I want Dolph Ziggler to be the very last person drafted.
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I'm imagining a segment where Steph announces her pick and she's like "My next pick is..." and Kurt Angle's music hits as the crowd go banana. Kurt makes his way out and Steph is like "Shane, I guess you're wondering how I made this happen!?".

Shane's like "Well Steph, if I had to guess, you signed Kurt to a contract earlier today so that he'd be available to draft tonight."

Steph's all smug and then it comes to Shane's pick. "Y'know, they say that we McMahons are more alike than we know. My next pick is..."

And then, say, Goldberg comes out.

Maybe not Goldberg but who's bigger than Angle? Maybe you do someone smaller than Angle so that Shane can use Kurt to trump Steph.
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Between a recent picture from a NXT house show and the Observer being able to confirm at least one name, bulk of the NXT callups for the draft might have been leaked.

According to the Observer,
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Image from a recent house show had its own "Curtain Call"-like moment for certain wrestlers.
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WWE have posted a video of the Lucha Dragons explaining that they purposely chose to enter the Draft as singles competitors.

Guessing that they'll have Wyatt cut some creepy promo later about how he's letting the fates decide if his Family should stay together or be set free.
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On WWE.com, the photos they use for RAW and SmackDown could very easily end up being the fixed rosters for those shows:



John Cena could easily be left as the stalwart on the flagship. Bray Wyatt and Kevin Owens could very easily be given pushes as his antagonists. ADR can do whatever they want ADR to do. Charlotte and Becky could ground the female division on Mondays.



The New Day could provide some merch movers for the Tuesday show. Ambrose and Reigns could be the big singles stars. Dolph Ziggler can be doing...whatever. Paige and Sasha Banks can be your featured female players.



There's also no reason these six couldn't be the NXT talent called up. Seems likely that American Alpha would be in there though. I imagine Samoa Joe would end up on the same show as John Cena (RAW in this case), Finn Balor will end up on the same show as AJ Styles (probably RAW), Shinsuke Nakamura would end up on the show opposite Kota Ibushi (SmackDown seems likely), Bayley is the goody-goody hero girl for SmackDown and Asuka provides fresh blood on RAW. Austin Aries is a cruiserweight for the RAW side of things, but he could come later.
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:56 AM   #427
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Something I'd like to see in the draft:

Kevin Owens or Chris Jericho is seen entering Stephanie McMahon and/or Mick Foley's office on SmackDown. They want to talk about something. At some point during the draft, probably when RAW has got two picks, Stephanie reveals that Kevin Owens & Chris Jericho have elected to be drafted as a tag team. Owens & Jericho get drafted to RAW, as well as a pick to supplement either the women's or cruiserweight division.

Shane and Daniel Bryan take this in stride and announce that their tag team -- Sami Zayn & Cesaro -- are coming to SmackDown.
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Finn Balor and RAW mesh well together with their color schemes. Dude is on that Jean Claude Van Damme/HBK type of hype right now.
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Whatever brand doesn't get the WwE champion should Draft Nakamura and Joe and have whoever wins that match at takeover become the new "brand" Champion and face the non winner out of Rollins/Ambrose the next night at Summer slam.

NXT has their title elevated and start a tourney or whatever for new champion.
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I am still pretty meh after the draft. I don't see enough top end and high mid card talent to see this brand split work in the long run. I look at the lists of the rosters and its just bland. Too many bland talent now in a bigger role.
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Weirdly enough, one of the things I am most excited about is the idea of The Miz and Daniel Bryan interacting.
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Rhyno and Curt Hawkins confirmed to be among the first batch of former wrestlers arriving for the new Brand Split era.

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The tentative plan is for the pair to be on the Smackdown brand, although until they debut on TV, that could always change.
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Supposedly Rhyno and Hawkins will be a tag team, which is random as fuck. But I like both guys enough so good on them for getting back to the main roster if it ends up being official.
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That doesn't sound appealing at all.

There's plenty you could do with Hawkins. Set up a deal with Ryder and Rawley where Mojo is the Angel and Hawkins the devil on Ryder's shoulder. The Hype Bros wrestle with honour but consistently lose where as Hawkins cheats to win (behind Ryder's back?) leading Ryder down a darker path because he "needs to win".

Or Ryder catches on and goes with Mojo, leading Hawkins to align with The Ascension and sets them on The Hype Bros.

Or a Hawkins/Slater team?
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Who wouldn't be excited for the eventual Hype Bros/Gore Brahs feud?
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I want Curt Hawkins to be teaming with Zack Ryder. Mojo Rawley should be reinventing himself in NXT still. He could be a great top heel down that way. Rhyno would be a good "bodyguard" for Dolph Ziggler.
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Still want Heath Slater to beg Daniel Bryan and Shane McMahon for a slot on SmackDown, Bryan to give Slater a shot at the IC Title, and Slater to pull off the upset.
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If there is anybody on the roster who could pull off being an upset champion, it's Heath Wallace Slater.
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Well, yeah, ideally Rawley hasn't been called up but he has been so we have to do something with him.
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