Recap of Flair on "Off the Record"

[Zen v.W.o.]

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool At least he's not some bitter Canadian who still bitches about his past to this very day. And who is stuck being liked but stupid foreigners who never had the privelage of watching a Ric Flair match, promo, or segment.

Man, besides your love for Pearl Jam, which is something everyone should have, you're an idiot. It's "by", not "but".

BTW, who keeps bringing it up? Yeah, everyone but Bret now. Face it, we'd all be bored without Bret convos to bide our time.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. Man, besides your love for Pearl Jam, which is something everyone should have, you're an idiot. It's "by", not "but". BTW, who keeps bringing it up? Yeah, everyone but Bret now. Face it, we'd all be bored without Bret convos to bide our time.

Yeah. 9/10 it's the bret haters who bring it up, usually in a way as idiotic as KoOS here.

[KingofOldSchool]

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. Man, besides your love for Pearl Jam, which is something everyone should have, you're an idiot.

Why?

Because I don't have my head up Bret Hart's ass like most of you do and have actually watched enough of Ric Flair's stuff over the years to realize that Flair is better than Bret?

Why?

Because I've actually stayed true to my favorite wrestler of all time and not turn on him just because he says stuff about Bret Hart that made idiots like you get their Huggies in a bunch?

Why?

Because I'm not a 14 year old ignorant loser who has never gotten the chance to actually watch a lot of Flair stuff from the time where he was actually used correctly? Or is it because I'm not someone who's only source of wrestling was the WWF therefor making biased opinions about Flair left and right just because of it?

[Zen v.W.o.]

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All that man just because I called you out on something that is now pretty much fact? Bret hasn't been bringing the Montreal thing up unless he is forced into bringing it up. You were making a rather stupid comment on that situation, thus entitling me to call you out on that.

And BTW, you assume too much. Many of us can realize Bret isn't perfect or some saint. I've seen them both enough myself to have a rather valid opinion, and I'm telling you, Flair is senile now. He's like a fucking blind sheep.

Thanks, ZEN!

[Rob]

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool Why? Because I don't have my head up Bret Hart's ass like most of you do and have actually watched enough of Ric Flair's stuff over the years to realize that Flair is better than Bret? Why? Because I've actually stayed true to my favorite wrestler of all time and not turn on him just because he says stuff about Bret Hart that made idiots like you get their Huggies in a bunch? Why? Because I'm not a 14 year old ignorant loser who has never gotten the chance to actually watch a lot of Flair stuff from the time where he was actually used correctly? Or is it because I'm not someone who's only source of wrestling was the WWF therefor making biased opinions about Flair left and right just because of it?

Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!

[Mayo]

Originally Posted by Rob Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!

You are the fucking man.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Rob Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!

[Champion of Europa]

Originally Posted by Rob Bret Hart, Shane Douglas, Hulk Hogan, Mick Foley, Scott Steiner, etc are just a few of the guys Ric Flair shook hands with to bury the hatchets and then years later (when he is sharing a locker room with none of them), he goes back on his word and mouths off like a 50 pence tart. Fuck what he did in the ring, as a man he is pathetic. The way he brown noses McMahon, HHH and Michaels makes me sick. He also backstabbed Konnan, Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and half the WCW locker practically every night when he went out partying and made an arse out of himself. He has totally pissed on his own legacy and that's the real shame because his work in the ring it should have been indestructable. I only wish Scott Steiner was still in that locker room because Flair would be in a grave now and his boyfriends would be in hospital and that is just if Steiner got caught in a good mood!

When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work.

Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work. Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.

Funny. I've found reasons to hate Triple H on and off screen.

The boredom factor is pretty high up there, and sum total would beat out his backstage politics.

But that's just me.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work. Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.

Okay firstly you are full of shit. If your posts were made up from opinions based on what you see on TV only then I could accept it but they aren't and you know it. I could easily go through the last few big threads and post examples but I'm sure you already know all this anyway so there is no point.

Bret Hart was on the active WCW roster from November 1997 to January 2000. Aside from the matches with Benoit, he gave Booker T arguably the match of his career to that point. Ditto for Goldberg. Sting had the best matches of the last 7 years of his career and he also had a great match with Ric Flair. Now in that same period, what did Flair do? As a matter of fact, what classic matches did Flair have in WCW after his WCW title win against Vader?

[Excellance of Execution]

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa When I watch wrestling, I watch it for the wrestling and the interviews and such. I don't give a shit what they do behind the scenes. That's why I love Triple H. I respect Ric Flair greatly and love his work. Ric Flair is many years older than Bret, and when Bret was in WCW, aside from the Benoit match, he could hardly put on a coherent match. Flair, on the other hand, while currently in the WWE is still putting on some solid matches.

I can't think of one good match Flair has done since being back in the WWE. It's still the same ol' routine. Throw him in the corner, do that stupid flip in the corner, stand for a second, then fall flat on his face. Then for some idiotic reason, climb to the top rope, only to get slammed. Has he ever hit a move off the tope rope to even consider climbing up there to begin with? I know he is old, and it's admirable that he is still active, but if you look back ten years ago, it was still the same routine. Flair is nothing more than an average wrestler. People's mind's get skewed because they see he has been champ 16-times. If he was so legendary, than why has he only held the WWE title once? And that was only for a short period of time, before McMahon realized that he wasn't as good as he thought he was.

[Mayo]

Originally Posted by Excellance of Execution I can't think of one good match Flair has done since being back in the WWE. It's still the same ol' routine. Throw him in the corner, do that stupid flip in the corner, stand for a second, then fall flat on his face. Then for some idiotic reason, climb to the top rope, only to get slammed. Has he ever hit a move off the tope rope to even consider climbing up there to begin with? I know he is old, and it's admirable that he is still active, but if you look back ten years ago, it was still the same routine. Flair is nothing more than an average wrestler. People's mind's get skewed because they see he has been champ 16-times. If he was so legendary, than why has he only held the WWE title once? And that was only for a short period of time, before McMahon realized that he wasn't as good as he thought he was.

Exactly what I was going to say. He is way past his prime, and he should stick to managing because he would be one of the best to help get new talent over. He has dedicated his life to wrestling, and for that fact he deserves great respect, but for his bashing of other great wrestlers and for asskissing so much, he has lost a great deal of respect in my eyes.

[Excellance of Execution]

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool Why? Because I don't have my head up Bret Hart's ass like most of you do and have actually watched enough of Ric Flair's stuff over the years to realize that Flair is better than Bret? Why? Because I've actually stayed true to my favorite wrestler of all time and not turn on him just because he says stuff about Bret Hart that made idiots like you get their Huggies in a bunch? Why? Because I'm not a 14 year old ignorant loser who has never gotten the chance to actually watch a lot of Flair stuff from the time where he was actually used correctly? Or is it because I'm not someone who's only source of wrestling was the WWF therefor making biased opinions about Flair left and right just because of it?

If you watch Flair as much as you claim to, you would know that Bret hit the nail on the head when he said that all Flair's matches are the same routine. I know myself, because i've watched wrestling for over twenty years, so i've seen my share of Flair matches. It was the same routine against every opponent. About the only thing Flair was good at was cutting a good promo. There is a misconceived perseption that because Flair was a 16-time champ that he was a legendary wrestler. If Goldberg or Kevin Nash were 16-time champs would that make them legendary too?

[KingofOldSchool]

Originally Posted by Excellance of Execution If you watch Flair as much as you claim to, you would know that Bret hit the nail on the head when he said that all Flair's matches are the same routine. I know myself, because i've watched wrestling for over twenty years, so i've seen my share of Flair matches. It was the same routine against every opponent. About the only thing Flair was good at was cutting a good promo. There is a misconceived perseption that because Flair was a 16-time champ that he was a legendary wrestler. If Goldberg or Kevin Nash were 16-time champs would that make them legendary too?

Bret Hart does the same routine against every opponent.

Likewise with just about every other guy in American feds.