Did Vince help or hurt the wrestling industry?

[Destor]

But that's all speculative. You dont know what would have come down the pike. Either new promoters or new ideas. What you know is there was a successful industry when vince came on the scene in 1980 there was an industry. In 2016 there isnt. Those are real facts. Vince took control not because he was the only guy with a good show but because he was smarter. He knew more about business and marketing. The territories died out BECAUSE of how Vince shifted the market. They were unequipped to respond...but if he had never existed? No reasons to think they wouldnt have stayed the course.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Destor But that's all speculative. You dont know what would have come down the pike. Either new promoters or new ideas. What you know is there was a successful industry when vince came on the scene in 1980 there was an industry. In 2016 there isnt. Those are real facts. Vince took control not because he was the only guy with a good show but because he was smarter. He knew more about business and marketing. The territories died out BECAUSE of how Vince shifted the market. They were unequipped to respond...but if he had never existed? No reasons to think they wouldnt have stayed the course.

Just flat out wrong.

Vince made some moves, but others could have followed suit. WCW survived for a long time. There's no reason to think other promoters could have been successful as well. The problem was they were no good. Line up side by side a WWE show say in 1985 and compare it to any other promotion at the time. The non WWE products looked like they were filmed in a smokey high school gymnasium. Likely because a lot of the times, that's where they were filmed.

Even today, why can't TNA match what WWE does? Look at the rest of entertainment, lots of shows come and go. They gain a following, it dips off, and then something new takes over. TNA was on the same cable channel WWE and had the same opportunities but couldn't capitalize. Just like AWA and other groups could have taken off in the 80s. They didn't because they suck (ed).

[Bad News Gertner]

Originally Posted by Destor But that's all speculative. You dont know what would have come down the pike. Either new promoters or new ideas. What you know is there was a successful industry when vince came on the scene in 1980 there was an industry. In 2016 there isnt. Those are real facts. Vince took control not because he was the only guy with a good show but because he was smarter. He knew more about business and marketing. The territories died out BECAUSE of how Vince shifted the market. They were unequipped to respond...but if he had never existed? No reasons to think they wouldnt have stayed the course.

They would have died regardless. The promoters were completely inept.