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Old 01-30-2017, 12:01 AM   #1121
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....and yeah....Taker looked bad. Probably because he's 78 years old.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:08 AM   #1122
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I know we get into trouble when we fantasy book and think about all the crazy, wonderful things that could happen. Angle, Balor, Omega, Joe, Nakamura, Sting.....I get that our wildest dreams can't come true, but ffs, what was "cool" about the Rumble match? Braun ' s elimination and maaaaybe Goldberg again making quick work of Brock was it. I'm not sure what anyone else is seeing that is saying it was anything but a terrible Rumble. It feels like we just took 10 years worth of steps back with Orton winning but I guess that's ok because it wasn't Roman.....
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:10 AM   #1123
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Taker looked kind of hefty for the first time and like a dude with hairplugs.

Still love the guy but it's probably time to hang it up.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:16 AM   #1124
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:19 AM   #1125
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I know we get into trouble when we fantasy book and think about all the crazy, wonderful things that could happen. Angle, Balor, Omega, Joe, Nakamura, Sting.....I get that our wildest dreams can't come true, but ffs, what was "cool" about the Rumble match? Braun ' s elimination and maaaaybe Goldberg again making quick work of Brock was it. I'm not sure what anyone else is seeing that is saying it was anything but a terrible Rumble. It feels like we just took 10 years worth of steps back with Orton winning but I guess that's ok because it wasn't Roman.....
Agree. 1. No surprise entrants. 2. No surprise winner. 3. Nothing really continued and/or no storyline's that will continue from here currently make any sense.

Not watching RAW tomorrow that's for sure.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:22 AM   #1126
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I enjoyed the show. Rumble seemed a bit slow at points, though. Lack of surprise entrants was a bummer, though. (Outside of Tye - that was awesome.)

Not really into the potential Orton/Cena or whatever the deal is with Goldberg/Lesnar, but there's plenty of time to get invested I guess.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:30 AM   #1127
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Ellsworth was a waste and could have been any legend willing to get thrown out by Braun. Ellsworth just makes zero sense in the Rumble. Enzo was a waste as well. Didn't mention nothing of him being in when Cass was announced as being in. He got a good pop but everyone knew his fate. Would have been another good spot for a return of Kurt Angle to get in there face to face with Brock only to be eliminated by him. Reigns was also as just putting his stench on the Rumble ruined it. Samoa Joe would have been great for that spot even if he did win. Roman being in the match at a time Braun wasn't was also kind of dumb. They just didn't have that AJ Styles type moment this year.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:32 AM   #1128
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Didn't really care for Dillinger at 10. Was a bit to predictable but it made sense, was hoping Braun would toss him out quickly and he only lasted 10 seconds.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:40 AM   #1129
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There had to have been SOME legends or something they had available they could have tossed in just to break up the monotony of filler guys while waiting for the final 5.
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Had a small chuckle after reading some Rumble stuff on another forum. WWE spent weeks weeks hyping up Goldberg, Taker, and Lesnar as the only people who mattered for the Rumble only for their combined in-ring time to be around 5 minutes for a match that lasted over an hour.

Never had the triple staredown happen and nor really bothered to build any tensions between the three for eliminations.

Even their combined eliminations is a bit weak since Strowman had more by himself and their number got inflated because they also eliminated each other.
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As much as Reigns at #30 was a wet fart, I see a lot of people complaining that it made no sense for him to get a second chance.

Not sure I understand that. Kayfabe-wise, Foley and Steph want a Raw guy to win the Rumble. They had one spot to fill, and figured whoever lost Reigns/Owens would give them a better chance than anybody not in.

For those same kayfabe reasons, it made a lot less sense for Bryan and Shane to waste a SmackDown slot on James Ellsworth.
To me, at least, it seems in kayfabe, Shane & Bryan care more about telling a story (putting Ellsworth and Ambrose in the match), while Stephanie & Foley care more about WINNING.
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So the Mania card Meltzer reported before the show appears to be right.

Meltzer sheep,,,,,,,,
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I almost didn't respond but I just don't care.

You're such a complete douche. It's not feedback regarding anything you did, thus nobody cares if you appreciate it.
The feedback on the show. I appreciate the sharing of the feedback on the show. Is this difficult to understand?

Name calling again, tsk tsk young man.
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Agree. 1. No surprise entrants. 2. No surprise winner. 3. Nothing really continued and/or no storyline's that will continue from here currently make any sense.

Not watching RAW tomorrow that's for sure.
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There had to have been SOME legends or something they had available they could have tossed in just to break up the monotony of filler guys while waiting for the final 5.
So people like you could say "WWE is so stupid. They brought back DDP, had him give a couple diamond cutters and then he was eliminated by Corbin. What a waste. Waaaa waaa waaa"
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Chalk another W up for the Meltz.

DUMMYING doubters since the 80's.
If only you knew what I know, you would realize how dumb that sounds.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:25 AM   #1137
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I liked the finish. I mean, not stoked on Orton winning, the idea of Orton vs Cena for the 18,000th time doesn't enthral me but I'm guessing that's not the end game. But the actual finish shocked the fuck out of me, did not see Orton winning.

The rumble itself was a bit paint by the numbers but it had some nice moments. Just not enough highs for my liking. Well worked in that there was some decent spots, but nothing seemed to really matter that much.

5/10 for the rumble match, 7.5/10 for the undercard stuff. Styles vs Cena really picked up with the submission stuff and they kicked into real high gear after what I thought to be a bit of a staggered match but honestly, near fall city takes its toll on me. Still, good stuff and they worked their nuts off.

Owens vs Reigns was a hilarious and entertaining match. Would have had no problem with Reigns going over but it was a fun, surprise ending.

Cruiser match was kind of there. Good workers but nothing special about it.

Womens match was fun. 2 good workers, seem to have a bit of chemistry, IMO more than Banks and Flair. I'm beginning to think Banks is a bit over rated and botchy.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:33 AM   #1138
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also enjoyed the taker/reigns stuff, along with taker and goldberg. Just a lot of MEH in between in the rumble.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:58 AM   #1139
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Since most of my feelings about the Rumble are echoed throughout the thread already, I'll focus on something else that really irks me... the preshow. Why are they taking main card caliber matches and putting it on a "preshow?" Why can't they just start the damn event early if they are worried on time??? I mean, just look at the card and the winners:

1. Team Becky - Face
2. The Club - Heel
3. Nia - Heel

4. Charlotte - Heel
5. Owens - Heel
6. Neville - Heel
7. Cena - Face
8. Orton - Heel

And what's worse, they do yet another title change on a "preshow" match!?! The only match I remember them announcing for the preshow was Banks/Jax so having 3 matches that are not part of the main program is ridiculous. They could have done a better job booking that card.

Also, after watching the rumble play out with Roman, why not have Roman come in while Braun was still in the match? Or better yet, why have Braun come out that early if Roman needed time to rest, and have him come out later for the interaction? I mean geez, how stupid is that? The ending to Owens/Reigns now makes sense ONLY because they couldn't have so many Heels win cleanly in a row. A Roman/Braun rumble interaction is the only reason that makes sense to have Roman in the match. I don't care if Roman/Braun is not the match they want for WM, the dude just cost him a title match, where is the kayfabe seek for revenge???

Totally ass-backwards

It's the "take 1 step forward & 2 steps back" mentality.
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Charlotte wins 16th PPV match on the same night Cena captures 16th title. Will be interesting to see if that has anything to do with the build to WrestleMania.
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Free hand wrote about 12 pages college ruled on the Rumble tonight. Will try to transcribe it later if time permits for my blog. Pretty fucking pissed I couldn't watch it and contribute to the thread in real time.

My handwriting is fucking terrible. This might take a few days to decipher.
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My handwriting is fucking terrible. This might take a few days to decipher.
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I know we get into trouble when we fantasy book and think about all the crazy, wonderful things that could happen. Angle, Balor, Omega, Joe, Nakamura, Sting.....I get that our wildest dreams can't come true, but ffs, what was "cool" about the Rumble match? Braun ' s elimination and maaaaybe Goldberg again making quick work of Brock was it. I'm not sure what anyone else is seeing that is saying it was anything but a terrible Rumble. It feels like we just took 10 years worth of steps back with Orton winning but I guess that's ok because it wasn't Roman.....
Randy's character has been refreshed with him being a Wyatt follower. Would have preferred Wyatt winning with Randy taking the EC but whatever. Randy has been a damn savior in making Wyatt relevant and fresh again too.
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Yeah, I love Orton. He is a true main eventer for me and has been away from that scene long enough. I feel like he isn't as valued as he should be given everything he has accomplished.

If it is to be Orton/Wyatt, I am more concerned about how they build Wyatt up as a credible champion before then, since he never seems to win the big matches. Hoping Wyatt gets a massive push and can finally break through with this.

Raw is strange because Owens looks like a mid carder. He was destroyed last night again, and has been this whole feud. If he goes into Mania with the title, it will be a strange one. But him/Jericho has been the main company storyline for months and months, so maybe we shouldn't be complaining about long term booking.

They obviously haven't decided about Taker for Mania, given Braun interference. It sets up two paths for Reigns.

I feel like they need to keep Cena away from Orton/Wyatt. Doesn't make sense to just squeeze him in.

Trying to be positive, but two biggest gripes were Goldberg/Lesnar again. I love Brock and a 50 year old bitching him out twice, does nothing for him. I understand their intention, I just don't like it.

Second gripe is just Reigns. He just isn't very good. His reactions are phony, the constant superman punches are boring, and his whole look and act is stale despite him being so young.

Him entering at 30 after being in another match, might make sense with Foley/Stephanie, but it is still a nice little corporate spot for the favourite that is being shoved down peoples throat.

That has to be the start of a heel turn, they knew that would get Orton the biggest pop possible. Hoping we see something totally different from Reigns.

Braun is my favourite right now, which is crazy to think about
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A few points:

1. I don't see Wyatt winning the Chamber match.

I mean, what was the point of Cena winning number 16 if he's just gonna drop it again 2 weeks later? I think we're more likely to get Wyatt vs. Harper.

2. WWE 2016: It's a new era! Time for new matches and opportunities

WWE 2017: lol just kidding.

3. I can't tell if fans were legit hot for the teased Sister Abigail by Harper or if they saw something happening in a Rumble that had very little of that.

4. Why would you have that many people in the ring just have them lay around for 6 minutes during the part timer bit?
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Ran into Brock Lesnar Guy @ Hooters by the venue yesterday. He was no sold at the entrance and was perturbed about "not getting an ovation" upon arrival(I mean, dude, it's Hooters, whaddya think the gimmick is here). He even walked through the restaurant, which was crowded, trying to get over.

Well, got to see Goldberg/Attend a Rumble and the Alamo. Pretty swell day if I must say.
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If I had my druthers, I might've done the Lesnar/Goldberg thing maybe 7-10 or so spots before they actually entered to make it feel like there was less dead space during the match. The ring was still plenty full enough to give Lesnar a bunch of people to suplex into oblivion and then after Goldberg throws him out in five seconds you can have Goldberg eliminated by Wyatt or somebody. Ring would've been full again by the time you needed Taker/Reigns to clean up.
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Joe will pull an HBK/Taker 2010 EC and cost Cena the title in the Chamber to Bray.

Also there are like two options for the Universal belt - Jericho will inadvertently cost Owens the title at Fast lane vs Goldberg or Roman Reigns. Setting up Jericho vs Owens and either Roman vs Taker or Goldberg vs Brock for the belt.
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They have to cool off on Goldberg winning the belt to lose it to Brock at WM. Though at this point Goldberg needs to probably have the belt for the match to make any sense to happen..unless they do a retirement match "could Goldberg dominate Lesnar a 3rd time and retire the beast?"..lol no
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:50 AM   #1154
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Undertaker looked awful. I really hope this is his last Wrestlemania.

Goldberg also looked awful. He's still got the look and the hype about him, but he also still looks clumsy as fuck in the ring. Between botching his lines in every promo, busting himself open, slipping in the ring, slipping getting out of the ring... fucks sake. Kinda bored of him already.

Ditto for Lesnar, without the botching.

Otherwise, Rumble was alright I suppose. A bit lackluster. Not really any memorable moments or surprise entrants. Orton hitting that RKO and winning was a surprise I guess, but still a pretty unexciting one in itself.

Aw well. Undercard was great at least.
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I know it's barely happened in the last decade, but remember when mid-card feuds were setup in the Rumble? Good times.
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How was the Alamo?


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Yeah, I don't see how Taker/Roman and Goldberg/Brock can over 5 minutes each at WM. Ok, well maybe Taker/Roman can be stretched to 10 minutes via a table bump or something, but not 20 or 30 minutes.
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I really enjoyed the show, especially the Rumble match itself. Braun's story was awesome all night from destroying Reigns to getting eliminated by Corbin of all guys, loved it.
The finish made me pop huge, loved that WWE didn't put Roman over, Orton deserves another shot, the dude is by far one of the best in the world.
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If only you knew what I know, you would realize how dumb that sounds.
Sounds exactly like something Meltzer would say to those who question his info.
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