Should Orton win at Mania to lose to Miz?

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Originally Posted by Noid No they weren't. Rock's first match with Cena came after Miz. In the build to the Mania match, Rock and Cena outshone Miz, this is true, but Miz didn't have the gravitas to make people buy into what he was doing on that scale. He got a few good reactions for mocking Cena and then they ran wild with him after Nexus was the hottest angle and they quashed it. Miz won the WWE Title before The Rock had even returned. My point is that Miz failed as a main eventer because he isn't a very good main eventer. He doesn't have the ring skills to hold attention unless he is having a surprisingly good match, and his promos really aren't that great. No, I'm not saying he is a bad talker, but how many great promos has he actually had? Two? Three? He's not as good as the internet makes him out to be. He's a harder worker and fun in the mid-card. That is enough.

Ah, so that was the Mania they brought Rock in as the special host to boost ratings? I would still say the focus on ratings is silly because the ratings have been decreasing for like 5 years now straight.

Either way, we have different definition on how good Miz is and what is a successful run. I clearly think he is better than you think due to different taste.