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Old 01-04-2004, 05:35 PM   #1
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WWE has been moving away from "gimmicks" like "Man Mountion Rock, the fat guitar player," and "Max Moon, the alien from mars" for quite a number of years now, and moving more toward giving wrestlers personalities which I think is better. If a wrestler has a set gimmick, its really hard for them to be taken seriously be the fans, and they will probably never be able to move past the midcard at best, while if they are just a straight up wrestler, with a edgy personality or somthing, they have a lot more mobility. I like the direction the WWE is going nowadays with their lower card and mid card wrestlers. They just need to give them a bit more airtime.
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Old 01-04-2004, 05:41 PM   #2
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WWE has been moving away from "gimmicks" like "Man Mountion Rock, the fat guitar player," and "Max Moon, the alien from mars" for quite a number of years now, and moving more toward giving wrestlers personalities which I think is better. If a wrestler has a set gimmick, its really hard for them to be taken seriously be the fans, and they will probably never be able to move past the midcard at best, while if they are just a straight up wrestler, with a edgy personality or somthing, they have a lot more mobility. I like the direction the WWE is going nowadays with their lower card and mid card wrestlers. They just need to give them a bit more airtime.
I think its boring. Theres no crowd reaction during the part where they spend a lot of time making, the entrances.

back in the day, everybody would yell out "Oh You Didnt Know?" or "HO Train" during the entrances. You dont get that anymore. You don't hear "Word Life" or "theres a Hurricane Coming Through" from the crowd
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Old 01-04-2004, 06:20 PM   #3
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WWE has been moving away from "gimmicks" like "Man Mountion Rock, the fat guitar player," and "Max Moon, the alien from mars" for quite a number of years now, and moving more toward giving wrestlers personalities which I think is better. If a wrestler has a set gimmick, its really hard for them to be taken seriously be the fans, and they will probably never be able to move past the midcard at best, while if they are just a straight up wrestler, with a edgy personality or somthing, they have a lot more mobility. I like the direction the WWE is going nowadays with their lower card and mid card wrestlers. They just need to give them a bit more airtime.
You can have a gimmick without it being oturageous like the above. John Cena has a rapper gimmick, and I'd say it got him wayyy over, and he can still go even further. They need to stray away from the unrealistic gimmicks (Hurricane, SHIT, racism) and start using better gimmicks again.

And, keep in mind, it isn't only the gimmicks. It is how the wrestler portays that gimmick, and if he/she has the charsima to use that gimmick. I'd say nowadays, 9/10 times a gimmick failure is due to lack of Charisma and mic skills.
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Old 01-05-2004, 12:25 PM   #4
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They need to stray away from the unrealistic gimmicks (Hurricane, SHIT, racism) and start using better gimmicks again.
Precisely what racism are you talking about?
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Old 01-05-2004, 01:00 PM   #5
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Precisely what racism are you talking about?
Probably to Teddy Long/Rodney Mack's stuff when they got more ait time..

...and how is racism an unrealistic gimmick?
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Old 01-05-2004, 01:33 PM   #6
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I gotta agree with moshingwrestlingfreak apart from I'd steer clear of the outrageous 80's gimmicks.

There are so many bland, personality lacking "stars" at the moment. I mean take the young, up and comer role for example.

We got Orlando Jorden, Garrison Cade, Mark Jindrak and I'd go as far as saying Maven, La Resistance and Rob Conway.

We got the big monsters Jon Heidenreich, Batista and Matt Morgan.

The we got cruiserweights like Akio, Sakoda, Spanky and Paul London.

None of these guys ooxe charisma or personality.

Don't get me wrong I'm not ripping on the guys I just mentioned, its part of the booking committees job to find fuller roles for these guys. I just wonder why the WWE thinks we should care about what these guys are doing!?!
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Old 01-05-2004, 08:25 PM   #7
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Probably to Teddy Long/Rodney Mack's stuff when they got more ait time..

...and how is racism an unrealistic gimmick?
I guess what he really meant was "sterotyping" but still, as far as I know Long's gimmick was mostly his idea. But some people can't understand caracituring ethnicities into wrestling characters. I'd say that Eddie Gurrerro is probably more over now than he's ever been. Lance Storm has never been bigger than he has as an Un-American or a Canadian Hero (or whatever.)

As far as racism being unrealistic... that gets a big from me.
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Old 01-05-2004, 10:05 PM   #8
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I guess what he really meant was "sterotyping" but still, as far as I know Long's gimmick was mostly his idea. But some people can't understand caracituring ethnicities into wrestling characters. I'd say that Eddie Gurrerro is probably more over now than he's ever been. Lance Storm has never been bigger than he has as an Un-American or a Canadian Hero (or whatever.)

As far as racism being unrealistic... that gets a big from me.
It's very realistic. so yeah.

Racism is pretty big out there. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to find it. It doesn't really mean it's something I want to see on my TV screen, but it's definitely far from unreal.

But really, since the perception of your typical wrestling viewer is sheep-fucking, ignorant, bigoted, trailer park trash...Can we really expect them to put an educated latino or an Asian who's not one of the top ten martial artists in the world? Aren't we expecting a little much out of the WWE if we ask them to not show contempt towards the french?
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