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Old 06-12-2017, 05:07 AM   #1
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So many shitty hipster artsy bullshit at Microsoft's conference.
God forbid small developers try to be creative, and craft unique visuals and gameplay.

I still do not understand this problem you have with indie developers. If the gameplay is legit great, then what is the problem? Are developers just not allowed to experiment with different art styles and gameplay ideas? Are they supposed to just endlessly make new shooters, rpgs and espirts games?

Fuck that. Ori and the Blind Forest is more beautiful and striking than a lot of games out there. And it plays fantastic. Limbo is more creepy and unnerving than most horror games. And it plays fantastic. I could go on. I've been an advocate for these types of games since they staryed showing up on live arcade. Not because I'm some pretentious hipster, but because its creativity unbound by publisher bullshit, and I appreciate the unique ideas and visuals that said unbridled creativity brings.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:28 AM   #2
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God forbid small developers try to be creative, and craft unique visuals and gameplay.

I still do not understand this problem you have with indie developers. If the gameplay is legit great, then what is the problem? Are developers just not allowed to experiment with different art styles and gameplay ideas? Are they supposed to just endlessly make new shooters, rpgs and espirts games?

Fuck that. Ori and the Blind Forest is more beautiful and striking than a lot of games out there. And it plays fantastic. Limbo is more creepy and unnerving than most horror games. And it plays fantastic. I could go on. I've been an advocate for these types of games since they staryed showing up on live arcade. Not because I'm some pretentious hipster, but because its creativity unbound by publisher bullshit, and I appreciate the unique ideas and visuals that said unbridled creativity brings.
I love me some indie goodness, but MS's whole theme was ULTRA REAL 4K HD EXCLUSIVE 4K WORLD PREMEIRE 4K TERRAFLOPS EXCLUSIVE and then they show a bunch of indie games that don't really need 4k to shine. I found it funny from that perspective, but otherwise agree with you
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:14 PM   #3
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God forbid small developers try to be creative, and craft unique visuals and gameplay.

I still do not understand this problem you have with indie developers. If the gameplay is legit great, then what is the problem?
Actually my exact issue is the gameplay isn't great or creative. I wasn't talking about the minimalist visual trends at all. I have no issue with 'quirkiness'.

I break down games to their gameplay, all the time. You know this. No interest in story modes, don't care for 'narrative intentions'. I'm a total nazi about this. Life is Strange; is ass. It does nothing for me. It fails at its own goal. If you set aside gameplay refinement to be a narrative driven game, fine, but I youtubed LiS and it's bollocks.

This isn't an appeal to AAA games which have gotten just as homogeneous, but the reason I call out AAA games is the same as I do indy games: People kind of treat 'AAA' and 'Indy' as a genre now and the games get pass for being either expensive or 'quirky'.

I am super hyped for Sea of Thieves and it honestly looks like shit. Metro looks meh and it had amazing visuals. The gameplay has to catch me first and a lot of indy games think they can shulk gameplay because 'it's an interesting project'. No, nigga.
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Old 06-12-2017, 04:38 PM   #4
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Actually my exact issue is the gameplay isn't great or creative. I wasn't talking about the minimalist visual trends at all. I have no issue with 'quirkiness'.

I break down games to their gameplay, all the time. You know this. No interest in story modes, don't care for 'narrative intentions'. I'm a total nazi about this. Life is Strange; is ass. It does nothing for me. It fails at its own goal. If you set aside gameplay refinement to be a narrative driven game, fine, but I youtubed LiS and it's bollocks.

By all means, call out a game if you think its overhyped, but god damn, you just judged a handful of games based on nothing. On 30 second clips.
This isn't an appeal to AAA games which have gotten just as homogeneous, but the reason I call out AAA games is the same as I do indy games: People kind of treat 'AAA' and 'Indy' as a genre now and the games get pass for being either expensive or 'quirky'.

I am super hyped for Sea of Thieves and it honestly looks like shit. Metro looks meh and it had amazing visuals. The gameplay has to catch me first and a lot of indy games think they can shulk gameplay because 'it's an interesting project'. No, nigga.
Telling me you youtubed Life is Strange does not explain your disdain for indy games a whole. So what if a few of these games geg overhyped, and don't get called out on their flaws? That doesn't mean that a lot of these games don't deserve the praise they get. I already listed a couple examples, but I've played a plethora of games with great controls and fun ideas. I guess I just don't understand what specifically you have a problem with, in terms of gameplay.

I mean if you think a game is overhyped, then by all means call it out, but shit, give games a chance. Maybe try playing one or two sometime.
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