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Old 10-21-2004, 08:26 PM   #1
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Yeah, I get what you mean. Benoit really couldn't do that Crippelr Crossface scenario more than once, because then it would just get predictable. Maybe as a one time thing, but that would be shifty, because it is a risk (something Eddie Guerrero would do, but not Benoit).

I think cruiserweight wrestling features little to zero psychology. Guys throw their weight around, but I would much more prefer it if a guy like Funaki through his weight into an opponent's leg, rather than just taking him down with it. Cruiserweight wrestling could be telling more of a story than it is.

BTW, is it just me, or does Jericho not use much psychology in his matches (as a face anyway). It seems every one of his matches is him getting dominated, then he follows through with moves that don't do accumalating damage to a body part. Y2J could do a Lionsault to the back occasionally, and maybe contorl a match or two and finish with an extremely painful Walls of Jericho hold that could make people in attendence cringe. The only thing I can see with Chris Jericho's moveset, is how all the moves one after the other to different body parts hurt the opponent all over, make them less suspecting for the next attack, and eventually make them so worn down, they can't kick out of the Lionsault or escape the Walls of Jericho.
You want story in a cruiserweight match? Watch Funaki's Japanese matches. Watch any Ultimo Dragon match. Watch any of Dean Malenko's WCW matches. Hell, just about any WCW cruiserweight matches involving less than 3 people.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:16 AM   #2
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You want story in a cruiserweight match? Watch Funaki's Japanese matches. Watch any Ultimo Dragon match. Watch any of Dean Malenko's WCW matches. Hell, just about any WCW cruiserweight matches involving less than 3 people.
Sorry, I didn't word myself correctly. I meant WWE cruiserwieight matches. Anything from Japan or WCW had psychology, but lately cruiserwieghts in the WWE have just be flip & kick matches. I hope there is a change in that.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:36 AM   #3
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Sorry, I didn't word myself correctly. I meant WWE cruiserwieight matches. Anything from Japan or WCW had psychology, but lately cruiserwieghts in the WWE have just be flip & kick matches. I hope there is a change in that.
maybe thats why vince wants to get rid of them?
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Old 10-22-2004, 06:15 AM   #4
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maybe thats why vince wants to get rid of them?
Well, if he'd actually GIVE them the chance to shine instead of protecting the big guys, you'd see a lot more entertaining cruiserweight matches.
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Old 10-22-2004, 10:35 AM   #5
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Well, if he'd actually GIVE them the chance to shine instead of protecting the big guys, you'd see a lot more entertaining cruiserweight matches.
*prays that Heymans booking will make that happen*
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Old 10-22-2004, 05:20 AM   #6
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You want story in a cruiserweight match? Watch Funaki's Japanese matches. Watch any Ultimo Dragon match. Watch any of Dean Malenko's WCW matches. Hell, just about any WCW cruiserweight matches involving less than 3 people.
OK Funky Breath, i know that Ultimo is a delicate subject *slips*

Seriously though Cruiserweights do have a an element of physchology to them, most decent cuiserweight do still build up to the big lucha moves, I'll use rey as an example. The normal scenerio for a Rey match would be getting overpower by the other guy with a few lock ups, then a bit of a chasing game when Rey runs away from them, then he's hit a few sweet arm drag counters. Get beaten down for ages, then hit a 'rana out of no where and build up a comeback and finished with a 619/westcoast pop.

Even though he is a lucha he doesn't flip flop about though out the entire match, Yes in mexico they would, but Mexico IMO isn't well known for it's ring physchology.

My fav cruiserweight is still Jamie Knoble though, that guy was a total package in the Cruiserweight division
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