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Old 12-24-2004, 02:17 PM   #401
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Astros have offered Beltran a 96 million dollar contract over 6 years.

They are saying that its between Houston and the Yankees with the Cubs as a possibility if they move Sosa. I've also heard that the Mets are in there too.

I think Beltran will end up with the Astros, he likes it there a lot more than New York and the Yankees probably won't go too much over 100 million so the contracts will be close.
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Old 12-24-2004, 05:18 PM   #402
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I think Beltran will end up with the Astros too, but I am not going to count the Yankees out by any means.

Want to know whats stupid? Carl Pohlad (Twins owner) reportedly has deeper pockets than Stienbrenner, yes the Twins sit on their 56 million payroll. He is near the end of his life, just go spend some cash!
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Old 12-24-2004, 05:19 PM   #403
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Also, according to things I've been reading the Twins don't plan to make any more free agent pick ups now that arbitration is over. Meh.
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Old 12-24-2004, 11:52 PM   #404
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:31 PM   #405
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Reds sign Eric Milton!!!!

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Old 12-27-2004, 03:47 PM   #406
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I thought I should bump this again, because it is so funny...

Milton signs with Reds
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Old 12-27-2004, 05:05 PM   #407
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Your last post was only 16 minutes after the previous, that is not bumping lad.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:14 PM   #409
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I know, but there are like 10 active topics and I posted in all of them, but this was the first one. That means by the time I was done this this thread was low on the page, when it deserves to be on the top, it really should be sticky, but thats just me.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:38 PM   #410
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OK, VEL I know you've got something to say here
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:41 PM   #411
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Well shit, I thought this was a big deal I mean the Yankees were kind of relying on getting a strong left handed pitcher to boost their lineup, and now that kind of fucks them up bad. If they don't get Randy their lineup could be a complete bust.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:47 PM   #412
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Nothing to see here, keep it moving...
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:52 PM   #413
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:52 PM   #414
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:56 PM   #416
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Mussina-Pavano-Vazquez, who else is on their starting lineup as of this second? Brown, Lieber, are they still around?

I smell a David Cone comeback
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:58 PM   #417
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No I meant Milton came up through the Yankee farm system. But they traded him to the Twins for someone I forgot.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:59 PM   #418
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Mussina, Pavano, Wright, Brown, Vazquez

Lieber is a Philly now. El Duque is a White sock.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:59 PM   #419
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It was in the Knoblauch trade I think, I think Cristian Guzman and somebody else were in that trade too. I don't think any Yankee regrets that trade, when Knoblauch was able to throw a ball he was damn good.
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I smell a David Cone comeback
Lieber is in Philly.

Brown is there, the Yanks have been trying to dump him and his salary w/ no luck.
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:00 PM   #421
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No I meant Milton came up through the Yankee farm system. But they traded him to the Twins for someone I forgot.
I'm guessing Knoblauch?
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:00 PM   #422
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:01 PM   #423
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Wright, even so their starting 5 has the ability to be a complete bust. They need Randy now more then ever.
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:03 PM   #424
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yep, there ya go. It was Guzman, Milton, Buchanan, Mota and cash for Knoblauch. hahah. robbed
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:04 PM   #425
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:06 PM   #426
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Mota? The Mota on the Marlins now???
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Eh, even so... a 42(?) year old guy who has no cartilage left in his knees and has injury and surgery problems the past few years isn't exactly a sure bet. Also, the Dbacks have in their head that they can contend this year and want a shitload for Randy due to the fact that they seem to be content with keeping him.
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Old 12-27-2004, 08:09 PM   #428
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Even if the Yankees don't get Randy, I'm sure they'll sign or trade for somebody huge (pitcher) come March. I wish they could of taken Mulder or Hudson. god dam.
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I'm guessing they'll try to work with what they currently have right now in the pitching department and make a huge push to land Beltran.
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The Yankees were one game away from the World Series last year so they can still win with the pitching they got..they don't NEED Randy Johnson to be succesful.
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Phillies are just terrible they have no commitment to winning they just let go of their best pitcher from last year Eric Milton to the Reds, fuck the phillies.
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The Yankees were one game away from the World Series last year so they can still win with the pitching they got..they don't NEED Randy Johnson to be succesful.
This is true.

I don't see the yanks pulling off the deal, I think they're going to hold onto what they have left as trade bait for March, maybe then if the DB are out they can pull a deal, and see what they need at that point.

Last rumor I heard is the Dodgers and DB may pull a deal for Greene w/o RJ or the Yanks, if that happens I don't see RJ going anywhere cause clearly the DB's are making a commitment to win... of course it also means MLB will endup bailing them out again... which if that happens they should just force the team to move or fold.
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Luxury tax bills came out... or I guess estimates, I'm not sure when they close at.

3-teams.

Angels pay under 1mil.

Red Sox around 3mil

Yanks pay 25mil.

25mil in Luxury tax, isn't that like the Twins whole payroll?
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I wonder if the Jays will go after Delgado again. They had offered him 10mil a season and he turned that down. From what I've seen however, the offers Delgado has been getting, so far, haven't been much more than that.
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Luxury tax bills came out... or I guess estimates, I'm not sure when they close at.

3-teams.

Angels pay under 1mil.

Red Sox around 3mil

Yanks pay 25mil.

25mil in Luxury tax, isn't that like the Twins whole payroll?
It may be the Twins whole payroll, but like a lot of other owners, thier owner doesn't spend the cash. BCWWF proved what I've been saying for years (not just on here) that Steinbrener isn't the richest owner in the MLB, he just spends his cash on talent to win. So all of the "The Yankees win all the time because they have the most money" comments are complete crap.
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The Twins payroll is 56 million, but I am pretty sure one of those teams, maybe D-Rays, is around 25.

Like Loose Cannon said, I am almost positive Carl Pohlad has more money then George Stienbrenner
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It may be the Twins whole payroll, but like a lot of other owners, thier owner doesn't spend the cash. BCWWF proved what I've been saying for years (not just on here) that Steinbrener isn't the richest owner in the MLB, he just spends his cash on talent to win. So all of the "The Yankees win all the time because they have the most money" comments are complete crap.
I don't think the issue w/ george is, is he the richest owner.

He does have one of, if not the most profitable franchises.

Stadium size, Mechandise and the Yes network.

The Sox have a smaller stadium, but also do a ton w/ mechandise and the new owners and making better use of NESN.

It's like in Hockey, the owner of the Bruins Jeremy Jacobs has a lot of money, but runs the team as a business and will only spend a % of team profit on payroll, and doesn't factor his own personal wealth.

I just still don't get the D-Backs, if they do well and can't make payroll again, the league should just take the team away and fold it.
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No the issue is people always saying to me "Yankees win all the time because Steinbrener has the most money." When the Yankees were losing all the time from 85-95, I never heard those complaints. It wasn't until 98 that it started coming out, ahhhh, just pisses me off.

Anyway I have some cool statistic in my sports marketing book having to do with MLB teams. I wanted to post it now, but I totally forgot what it was. It has to do with something along these lines though. I'll get it later, it's in my car right now.
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