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Old 03-11-2005, 08:28 PM   #1
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Pfttt.. Yeah, right. London and Mysterio leave RVD in the dust. RVD is a spot monkey. He's been doing the same routine ever since he came to the WWE. At least Mysterio and London change up their routines.
hurricanrana, 619 tease, dropkick, hurricanrana, 619, west coast pop pin

dropsault, ensiguri, backflip, london star press

rolling thunder, kick, split legged moonsault, kick, five star frog splash

punch, kick, WHAT?, punch, kick, WHAT?, spinebuster, STUNNER

german suplex, over head belly to belly, ankle lock, angle slam, ankle lock

punch, kick, spit-punch, spine on the pine, peoples elbow, rock bottom


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I believe the "he uses the same routine" argument is VERY weak considering you can say the same things for EVERY WRESTLER
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Old 03-11-2005, 08:40 PM   #2
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hurricanrana, 619 tease, dropkick, hurricanrana, 619, west coast pop pin

dropsault, ensiguri, backflip, london star press

rolling thunder, kick, split legged moonsault, kick, five star frog splash

punch, kick, WHAT?, punch, kick, WHAT?, spinebuster, STUNNER

german suplex, over head belly to belly, ankle lock, angle slam, ankle lock

punch, kick, spit-punch, spine on the pine, peoples elbow, rock bottom


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I believe the "he uses the same routine" argument is VERY weak considering you can say the same things for EVERY WRESTLER
That's an extreme generalization. So you listed everybody's moves that they use, big deal. I'm talking about how they use those moves. RVD's matches are exactly the same from start to finish. The other wrestlers you mentioned while using the same moves at least changed the order of the match.
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Old 03-12-2005, 04:09 AM   #3
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I personally disagree with a lot fo your list. Booker T, The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels and MAYBE Chris Jericho and Eddie Guerrero are the only ones I can agree with for sure.

-Booker T is retiring soon, and although it would be nice ot see him with a World Championship, the guy's just not the stuff he was anymore. His character is stale, he only occasionally has good matches, and he's lost enough of the big matches to make US Champion a stretch right now. He's not even on the current WrestleMania card. I hope they add Orlando Jordan vs. Booker T and have BT take OJ's title just to do something with the man.

-The Undertaker is past it. Right now he doesn't need a World Championship, and he shouldn't have one.

-Shawn Michaels could be used as a World Champion, but they have more World Title contenders for both sides of the face/heel spectrum, so HBK is really a support player right now, in my opinion.

-Chris Jericho is in the same boat as Booker T right now, IMO. He's become a shadow of his once unmatchable greatness, and I really don't think putting the World Title on him now would be a good thing. I don't think he's completely past it, but he's not a World Title front-runner right now, IMO.

-Eddie Guerrero has come out and said he didn't like being the World Champion. For that reason he may always be a supporting player. I have a feeling there might be another run in Eddie Guerrero sometime, though.
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:12 PM   #4
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Eddie Guerrero has come out and said he didn't like being the World Champion. For that reason he may always be a supporting player. I have a feeling there might be another run in Eddie Guerrero sometime, though.
When did he ever say that? I know he said he felt like he let the WWE down with his title run, but I've never heard anything about him saying he didn't like being the World Champion.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:48 PM   #5
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When did he ever say that? I know he said he felt like he let the WWE down with his title run, but I've never heard anything about him saying he didn't like being the World Champion.
I'm pretty sure he said something about the pressure being way too much for him to handle.

We may see Eddie Guerrero as a transitional Champion, or just a short reign for him, but I doubt he will get the JBL treatment anytime soon.
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Old 03-12-2005, 07:39 PM   #6
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Old 03-13-2005, 11:22 AM   #7
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I'm pretty sure he said something about the pressure being way too much for him to handle.
To an extent, I think Eddie did botch being the champion . He couldn't handle the pressure and put a twelve inch gash on his fore-head for good measure. He's deservedly a top tier guy but I don't think he'll wear that belt again for a long time
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