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Old 06-24-2020, 08:37 PM   #1
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The piss test is set up from the athletic commission, yes?
I've got no clue. OVW might reserve the right to privately piss test employees? If so, I don't know how Danny Davis' name doesn't come into this more often. He was the guy running OVW at the time, so was he in on this thing?
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Old 06-24-2020, 07:35 PM   #2
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One thing I did kind of morbidly enjoy in Cornette's response was "Fuck no I'm not taking these seriously." It sounds brazen, but when everyone talks in hushed tones and always throat clears a "these are very serious times" preface to everything they say, it is kind of refreshing for a (hopefully) innocent man (at least the way he's framing it), to say "these are fucking lies and this is fucking bullshit."

One thing you can't say about Cornette's language is that it's indirect or filled with euphemisms for anything other than color.
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:42 PM   #3
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You know who I bet something comes out about : Matt Striker.
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Wouldn't surprise me, he's had nudes leak at some point.

lol he's on a reality dating show now
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Old 06-24-2020, 11:50 PM   #5
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I used to quite like Striker's commentary. I don't know what was wrong with me.
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Striker was the hotness for about 6 months. People LOVED Striker for a while.
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Old 06-25-2020, 12:05 AM   #7
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Todd Grisham & Matt Striker felt like a really good duo for a bit. I'm trying to remember. I have a lot of suppressed memories from this period of wrestling.
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I remember going to a live Raw in 2005 and Striker did a promo segment for Heat. His teacher character was fairly new at this point and man the guy was a heat magnet when he first went there.
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I remember going to a live Raw in 2005 and Striker did a promo segment for Heat. His teacher character was fairly new at this point and man the guy was a heat magnet when he first went there.
I loved that gimmick. I loved Striker with Big Daddy V.
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Yeah I recall Striker's good commentary days being on ECW. Then he got to be a bit too overbearing.

His "THIS IS A MARK OUT MOMENT. I'M MARKING OUT BRO!" line when Booker T and Diesel returned in the 2011 Rumble. Cringe.
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Yeah I recall Striker's good commentary days being on ECW. Then he got to be a bit too overbearing.

His "THIS IS A MARK OUT MOMENT. I'M MARKING OUT BRO!" line when Booker T and Diesel returned in the 2011 Rumble. Cringe.
People were like "awesome, one of us is announcing", and then they realized how annoying they are.
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I can appreciate announcers making the occasional wink wink reference to things, but that was just so obnoxious lol
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I tried to defend it at the time, haha. I wanted to like Striker so bad.

Even more obscure than his ECW run as Big Daddy V's manager (well, that wasn't so obscure), was that one week he was Tyson Kidd's "super agent" on Superstars. I think it was Kidd, anyway. TK went through weeks of having a new guy in his corner every week. I think JTG did it one week. Striker had a headset and walked around ringside pretending to talk to someone the whole time.
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I tried to defend it at the time, haha. I wanted to like Striker so bad.

Even more obscure than his ECW run as Big Daddy V's manager (well, that wasn't so obscure), was that one week he was Tyson Kidd's "super agent" on Superstars. I think it was Kidd, anyway. TK went through weeks of having a new guy in his corner every week. I think JTG did it one week. Striker had a headset and walked around ringside pretending to talk to someone the whole time.
I'm pretty sure Michael Hayes did as well
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He CLEARLY has a passion for the business, but his application is just a little much sometimes.
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lol that all-women's season of NXT when Striker, Mathews, and Cole were just completely fucking around the entire time
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Matt Striker is still a great commentator. Fight me.
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People also started turning on Striker when he started making incorrect obscure references and it was happening a lot.
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I'm pretty sure Michael Hayes did as well
Yes! That's right.

Fuck, I actually really liked Tyson Kidd and don't even feel guilty about it.

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People also started turning on Striker when he started making incorrect obscure references and it was happening a lot.
Sometimes him being incorrect didn't even need to be obscure. "CENA'S FREE!"
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Was it Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty who used to roofie women's drinks then shave their heads?

Also I'm pretty sure the Brisco brothers used to drug other wrestlers and mess with them. I'm sure there's a story about them dosing Gene Anderson or someone.
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Marty was willing to fuck his step daughter or whatever so wouldn't be a shocker.
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Erm...someone stole his phone.

Judgy...
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According to Fightful, WWE is preparing more releases soon to cleanse their roster of problematic talent.

Also hinted Velveteen Dream's days in the company are now numbered since some other stuff about him have recently popped up and are unrelated to his current accusations.
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The WWE would obviously love to be as clean as possible from any possible scandal. Their stock and business image is way too connected to their PR and their business relationships. Other promotions like AEW and TNA can afford to be more haphazard with how their implement disciplinary measures, to the extent that they just have to not piss off whatever fans they have too much. Well, in AEW's case they need to look after the TNT relationship.

I'm not surprised that WWE is being careful with this too and not just firing everyone whose name comes up. The last thing they want to do is invite "big bad company" perspectives for firing people who don't deserve it, which could be a hit to their public image on its own, and possibly invite inquisitions into their past as an entity.
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Turns out the car accident was Dream's fault according to WrestlingInc.

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As reported on Friday, Dream was released from the hospital after his involvement in a car accident, and Wrestling Inc has some details on what went down.

According to the site, the accident took place at about 4 PM local time when Dream allegedly failed to stop at a red light. That resulted in him hitting another car. The driver of the other car sustained injuries, but it isn’t known how bad they were.

Dream was given a citation over the incident but will not appear in court.
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WWE's also been more careful because the sheer scope of the accusations is way too much for them to simply sweep under the rug and them being pre-occupied with the coronavirus outbreak and other PR nightmare happening at their Performance Center.

Right now, WWE's looking at a brand that's potentially beyond saving (NXT UK), a wrestling scene that's in a very dire situation (UK), and notable talent being among those accused instead of just some low level guys.
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The UK stuff, like, it's also largely because I don't give a fuck about NXT UK and always think the internet bubble exaggerates "indy resurgences," but I'd just fucking cut it. If there are talents that are worth a shit that don't have anything against their name, offer them a spot in the US. If they don't want to take it, so be it. Take the hit and move on.
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The wrestling renaissance in the UK was real but lasted a couple of years at most and got killed off by WWE and ITV before it could truly blossom or hit the next level. Rev Pro, Progress, and OTT likely don't get the deals they currently have with NJPW and WWE if it wasn't for that renaissance period.

Problem with simply shutting down NXT UK and moving talent to the US is the regular PC is already way too bloated to take on more talent without more call-ups being made which would just lead to the main roster being even more bloated. Plus doubt Triple H wants another big black mark on his NXT global expansion plans considering the biggest supporters of ditching the brand got fired a while ago (WWE's former co-presidents).
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Real to what extent? Nothing was booming. PROGRESS having a few hundred people interested? What does that mean?
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Real to what extent? Nothing was booming. PROGRESS having a few hundred people interested? What does that mean?
Revenues, attendance, and business in general was going up during that period which led to the feeling the scene was experiencing a boon not seen in a very long time.

Not Attitude Era or Hulkamnaia like levels but something that could have been built upon or be a stable foundation for future greater success had WWE and ITV not stepped in when they did.
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Revenues, attendance, and business in general was going up during that period which led to the feeling the scene was experiencing a boon not seen in a very long time.

Not Attitude Era or Hulkamnaia like levels but something that could have been built upon or be a stable foundation for future greater success had WWE and ITV not stepped in when they did.
Yeah, I'm not saying that it was progressively worse, year after year. I'm just saying that the idea that it was "booming" is probably wrestling bubble exaggeration. I've had people ask me about how great it must be that the same thing is happening in Australia, and my response is "What the actual fuck are you talking about?" NO ONE gives a shit about wrestling over here. Yet we were apparently experiencing a similar thing.

I'm not even using Attitude era or Hulkamania as extreme examples. ICW doing a show of 1,000 people or whatever is just not worth getting excited about. Not really.
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If NXT UK got shut down I reckon they’d offer WALTER, Toni Storm, Kay Lee Ray, Tyler Bate, and Gallus spots in the US (though Bate and one of the Gallus names are still being looked into as part of the scandal). Plus Pete Dunne returning to the US which I assume he was already going to do once the pandemic was over.

Some of them would agree to come, but probably not WALTER as he’s long said he has no interest in moving to the US. If that leads to WALTER in New Japan that would rule.
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