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Old 11-22-2005, 08:09 PM   #1
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They also got Pedro around Thanksgiving. Simmons has an article on ESPN about the trade and notes all that stuff

Of course Damon is going to do whats best for his wallet, because the core of the team is gone. If they were keeping Millar and Mueller then chances are he wouldn't be going after the most unrealistic contract this side of Bryant Reeves
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They also got Pedro around Thanksgiving. Simmons has an article on ESPN about the trade and notes all that stuff

Of course Damon is going to do whats best for his wallet, because the core of the team is gone. If they were keeping Millar and Mueller then chances are he wouldn't be going after the most unrealistic contract this side of Bryant Reeves
Nah, even before the moves he was set on this course, just look at who his agent is.
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Marlins get:
1B Mike Jacobs
RP Yusmeiro Petit

Mets get:
1B Carlos Delgado

ROFL nice one Mets
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Reports that Delgado is delt to the Mets for Jacobs & Petit.
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Reports that Delgado is delt to the Mets for Jacobs & Petit.
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I love this trade for the Mets.

We fill two of our needs (power bat and 1st baseman) while still keeping Milledge. Also, Billy Wagner has said that he wants to be on a team that can make it to the postseason, and with the acquistion of Delgado, the Mets may have proved to him that they are willing to spend to get the offense they need. The Mets probably could have won 12-13 more games last season if Delgado was on the team. They just added a TON of run support.

I will admit, it's hard to say goodbye to Jacobs and Petit. However, there's a chance they may never pan out as planned. Jacobs is the one that worries me the most, as his swing reminded me of Chipper Jones. Hopefully Jacobs won't become the Chipper Jones of the Marlins and kill the Mets every time.

My only other concern is his reaction to the city. Listening to the radio, several fans have already stated that they will boo the crap out of Delgado from the get-go and not even give him a chance. If the pressure were to get to Delgado and he were to produde a Beltran-2005 type season, the fans would kill him and he'd probably demand a trade.

Overall, I like this deal. 2006 is gonna be interesting
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The "win now" attitude is why the Mets have sucked the last 4 years. Trading quality prospects for a 34 year old slugger past his prime is not a good move.

Reports are also saying that the Mets may be getting Soriano for prospects. The Delgado deal I don't like but if they get Soriano they are retarded
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No way do I want Soriano. I'd rather have the $7 million paperweight Kaz Matsui playing 2B next year.

I heard the Rangers want Milledge for Soriano
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White Sox get:
1B Jim Thome
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Phillies get:
CF Aaron Rowand
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Why? Thome to DH? That's the only thing I can figure. Or is Konerko on his way out?
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Old 11-23-2005, 05:56 PM   #11
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I think bad move for the ChiSox
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I am pretty surprised the Phillies were able to get rid of Thome
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I hope something happens to Carlos Delgado that will make him ineligble for the entire season and I hope that Mike Jacobs hits 40+ home runs in 5 consecutive seasons and I hope that Yusmeiro Petit ends up to be a 300 game winner.
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Thome is the new DH. Thomas' career with the Sox is over. Konerko is still the top priority.

This makes zero fucking sense. Is Pods the new CF? Do they bring Anderson up for good for LF? This is not the same Jim Thome that killed us while he was with Cleveland.

See ya Aaron. I hope you win a gold glove every year for the rest of your career.

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Wednesday, November 23
WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Carlos Delgado
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Mets to land slugger Delgado
Nov 23 - The Mets have reached an agreement to acquire slugger Carlos Delgado from the salary-dumping Marlins, Newsday first reported Wednesday morning. The Mets will send pitching prospect Yusmeiro Petit and first baseman Mike Jacobs to the Marlins for Delgado. The Marlins will give the Mets $7 million to cover part of the $48 million owed to Delgado over the next three years.
According to Newsday, the trade won't be finalized until medical exams are complete and commissioner Bud Selig signs off on the deal.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Jim Thome
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Thome-Rowand swap
Nov 23 - The Phillies reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday to send Jim Thome and cash to the World Series champion White Sox for center fielder Aaron Rowand. The deal, first reported by ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney, is subject to the players passing physicals, the Phillies said.
Thome, an oft-injured first baseman, is owed $43.5 million in the final three seasons of his contract.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Billy Wagner
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Braves?
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Eye for the Big Apple?
Nov 23 - After a two-day visit with the Mets, Billy Wagner left New York with an offer (three years, with an option for a fourth year, valued at $30 million to $31 million), The New York Times reports. When asked if a four-year contract would close the deal with the Mets, Wagner said, "I'm pretty open to anything. Definitely, it'll be worth coming to New York if I'm kind of overwhelmed. Four years is a big deal to us, but it all comes down to what our family decides."
The Braves and the Red Sox have contacted Wagner's agent.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Manny Ramirez
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Mariners?
Mets?
Angels?
Manny's short list
Nov 23 - Manny Ramirez's current wish (subject to change, of course) is to play for the Angels or the Mariners, the Boston Herald reports. Seattle likely interests Ramirez because Mike Hargrove managed him in Cleveland.
Teammate David Ortiz thinks Ramirez won't be in left field for the Red Sox come Opening Day.
"Manny is not returning to Boston," Ortiz said Monday during a news conference at the Office of the Sports Secretary of the Dominican Republic. "Manny lives a difficult situation that only he and his family know about, and he does not want to play there."

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

B.J. Ryan
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Indians
Tigers
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Blue Jays
Yankees?
O's make 3-year offer
Nov 23 - The Orioles have offered B.J. Ryan a three-year deal worth $18 million, The Baltimore Sun reports. But an American League executive, according to the newspaper, says Ryan could command a four-year deal worth $30 million. Ryan spent Monday and Tuesday in Cleveland, but GM Mark Shapiro wouldn't say if the Indians made the lefty closer an offer.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Bob Howry
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Fast-acting relief
Nov 23 - Less than a week after signing lefty reliever Scott Eyre, the Cubs may be close to landing righty setup man Bobby Howry, The Chicago Tribune reports. Howry reportedly had been seeking a three-year deal worth around $12 million to re-sign with the Indians.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Brian Giles
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Cardinals?
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Indians?
Yanks looking elsewhere?
Nov 23 - The Padres balked at the three-year proposal received from Brian Giles' agent on Thursday, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. According to the New York Daily News, it appears the Yankees' interest in Giles may be waning, as some members of the front office believe the veteran outfielder would rather remain in San Diego.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Los Angeles
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Nov 23 - Angels pitching coach Bud Black might be a candidate for the Dodgers' managing job after all. He just wants a little time to think about it. Black declined an invitation to be interviewed after the Dodgers received permission Tuesday to speak with him. He signed a two-year contract with the Angels earlier this month.

The frontrunner, according to the Los Angeles Daily News, remains Braves special assistant Jim Fregosi.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Matt Morris
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A pitch for Morris
Nov 23 - The pitching-starved Rangers plan to offer veteran right-hander Matt Morris a contract -- likely two years -- this week, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.
WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Adrian Gonzalez
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Red Sox
Yo Adrian!
Nov 23 - The Red Sox have spoken with the Rangers about trading for first baseman Adrian Gonzalez, The Boston Globe reports. Texas is believed to be interested in acquiring an outfield prospect, possibly Double-A outfielder Brandon Moss, but Boston would likely offer Triple-A catcher Kelly Shoppach, a Fort Worth native.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Paul Byrd
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Byrd in hand?
Nov 23 - Citing club sources, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports the Rangers plan to offer soft-throwing right-handed starter Paul Byrd a contract this week.
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Terrible trade for the ChiSox, doubt they will be able to replace what Rowand brought to the table
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Officials of two teams interested in B.J. Ryan forecast last week that Ryan will sign in Philadelphia if Wagner doesn't. But an executive of another interested club predicts Ryan will wind up with the Red Sox, Indians, Blue Jays or Yankees.
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The White Sox are also giving up two quality prsopects, what the fuck are they smoking?

Howry got 3 yrs $12 mil from Cubs
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Nice pick up

ESPN now has Mota on the trading block
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Cubs about to acquire Juan Pierre. lol 1998 Marlins all over again. Willis and Cabrera will probably be the only players on the 2006 team that were on the 2005 team.
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Cubs about to acquire Juan Pierre. lol 1998 Marlins all over again. Willis and Cabrera will probably be the only players on the 2006 team that were on the 2005 team.
Someone asked Henry if he's going to do in Boston what he did in Florida.

That's the only time you ever see Henry really get pissed (or close to it). He points out Huizinga owned the team when the fire sale happened.

Which is true, but I thought I remembered he had to dismantle the team before Henry would take it... I could be off there...
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Yeah, giving up Roward for Thome, who last time I heard isn't confirmed healthy and isn't used to DHing, is a bad move IMO. It kind of gives them wiggle room if Konerko goes, but especially if he stays, I think it was an unneccessary move.
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good move by Mets. Delgado is a good guy. I wish my jays still had him.
 
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Seems more likely that in a few years the Marlins won't be playing in Miami. Stadium proposal was defeated, they don't like Dolphins stadium, etc. IN fact I think MLB has even given the the go ahead to look around at other cities.

Awesome, a two time World Series Champion and still not a solid franchise. I hope they do move.
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So, the Red Sox are taking the full 72hrs to go over Beckett's medicle files before the trade's offical. Should be sometime today.
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Yeah, I could see the Marlins being in Portland in a few years. Other possibilities I've heard are Indianapolis and Las Vegas, although Vegas seems pretty unlikely.

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Dontrelle and Cabrera seem like the only players from last year that are untouchable
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:08 PM   #32
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In a way, besides Beckett, it might not be such a bad idea to be selling these guys off. I mean most of last season they weren't even in contention, and guys like Lowell, Laduca, Delgado, and Pierre aren't getting any better. Instead of flirting with the wildcard again, they are already getting some pretty decent prospects it looks like. Dunno.
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:30 PM   #33
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If they're going to do a firesale, they're at least doing it right and getting quality prsopects. The Beckett trade was retarded but Jacobs and Petit both have great upside. We'll see who they get for Pierre. I heard they were offered overrated Milledge but took Petit instead which was a great move.
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:32 PM   #34
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:35 PM   #35
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I'm a fan of Beckett's (also have a nice Stadium Giveaway Bobblehead of his) but I think he's very risky and injury prone. You always have guys that play like heroes during playoffs and he was on fire in 2004. But during the season, he just one of those guys that can go eathier way and you just don't know.
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:00 PM   #36
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I'm a fan of Beckett's (also have a nice Stadium Giveaway Bobblehead of his) but I think he's very risky and injury prone. You always have guys that play like heroes during playoffs and he was on fire in 2004. But during the season, he just one of those guys that can go eathier way and you just don't know.
the injuries do worry me, but from what I've read 6 of his 9 IR trips were for blisters...

At first I felt better, but the more I think of it, if he keeps developing blisters, then it's probably a mechanical issue... and do you start messing with the mechanics and risk he's never the same?
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:35 PM   #37
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Old 11-24-2005, 09:25 PM   #38
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I'm worried about Beckett being able to play in Boston. I know he is sort of a hick that backs the NRA. He is big into hunting and all that so I dunno how much he is going to like the Boston media.
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:14 PM   #39
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I'm worried about Beckett being able to play in Boston. I know he is sort of a hick that backs the NRA. He is big into hunting and all that so I dunno how much he is going to like the Boston media.
Don't worry. I heard John rocker was going to teach him the fine art of big city public speaking.
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:38 PM   #40
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Maybe it will be completely fine, I am just basing it off the fact that I know he supports the NRA which means he is a hick. I'm figuring a guy like that really won't enjoy the pressure of Red Sox baseball/Boston media.
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