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Old 11-27-2012, 12:41 PM   #441
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Mets reportedly boost their offer to David Wright. 7-years, over $100 mil.
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:29 PM   #442
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In context, Wright has never been as good as Pujols, Rodriguez, and arguably Hamilton. Longo and Zimmerman got the same contact the Mets are offering. I don't think Wright would get much better in free agency. Beltre makes about the same. Is Wright really that much better, if at all, than those guys?
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Old 11-27-2012, 01:42 PM   #443
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In context, Wright has never been as good as Pujols, Rodriguez, and arguably Hamilton. Longo and Zimmerman got the same contact the Mets are offering. I don't think Wright would get much better in free agency. Beltre makes about the same. Is Wright really that much better, if at all, than those guys?
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:41 PM   #444
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According to trade rumors, the Mets are offering a 7 year deal in thee range of $125-$150 mil. Ind be absolutely shocked if he turned that down. Market value dollars for a contract that takes him into his late 30s.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:03 PM   #445
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David's been clear that he wants this next contract to be the last of his career...so 7 years should get it done. I know a lot of Mets fans will bitch about how it will cripple the team in the back end of the deal, but I don't care. This guy has been in the league for 9 seasons and is clearly the best everyday player they've had in their history.

Hopefully in 6-7 years once his production rails off, the Wilponzis will be out of shit's creek. A big market team can afford one bad contract.
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$16 mil per isn't really that bad. When I think crippling, I think $20-$25 mil.
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That's the point, not so much talent and $$, but age is a big factor to consider with these contracts. Wright will probably begin to fall off in 4-5 years and the contract will almost be up by then. By that standard it's not a terrible deal as opposed to having other guys at 39 or into their 40's. the deal makes sense for everyone.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:17 PM   #449
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Wright will realistically start falling off about two to three years into the new contract. Doesn't mean he'll stink, but, like most players, his prime is probably in it's tail end and the numbers will likely start to decline.

With that said, it's a good deal for both sides, I agree. Wright should jump on this.
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Is the 7th year an option year or is the whole deal guaranteed money and years?
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Wasn't an option to being with. Now it's an extra year.

But according to David Wright himself today, the reports are false.

In other news, Yankees should have Pettitte and Rivera back by the end of the week. All that's left is the big hole in RF.
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Pettitte and Mo are still good, Pettitte especially last year surprised the hell out of me. He's accurate and you can't teach that.
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From the sounds of things, Wright is genuinely pissed off that terms of his contract offer were leaked, and he specifically requested that the Mets keep negotiations private. Speculation now is that he may not sign any extension and will simply head to free agency after 2013.

Fuck this team. Even teams like the Rays managed to sign their franchise player to a long extension without fucking things up so royally.
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Nah who am I kidding...I could never root for those bastards either. Looks like it's watching random games on MLB.TV for me.
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Wright's being a baby. The reason Longo's extension wasn't leaked was because he plays in a shit market, he was already under contract, and he probably didn't have specific parameters that needed to be met before signing.

In a world where social media has literally taken over, out should be no surprise shit gets leaked. He should get over it and sign his deal and all will be well.
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Reportedly the only people involved in negotiations have been Wright, his agent, Sandy Alderson, and Jeff Wilpon. I don't care what market it is...it shouldn't be that hard for Alderson and Wilpon to keep their mouths shut when it's clear that there are moles across major league offices who will gladly spread the news to reporters. If Wright's main request was confidentiality, he has every right to be pissed off.
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Or maybe that slightly better than average 3B can stop buying into his own hype, shut the fuck up and stop whining about his "CONTRACT DETAILS BEING LEAKED" (OH THE HORRORS) and get a deal done. What a fucking prima donna.
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Meh. I'm sure there are more people involved, like assistants and advisors. Regardless, it's nothing to get upset about. He's not being painted in bad light or anything. This won't be remembered when it's all said and done. I'd be surprised if they don't sign him.
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Playing in NY has gone to Wrights head.
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Why would he care? Fucking make 100 jillion dollars and he's complaining about that? Fuck how hard life must be.

If you care about your team, teammates, and the fans then you should sign the fucking contract. Get it done no matter what and be ecstatic when it happens. Its not like they are low balling him or something.
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David Wright is far better than "slightly" above average. Just ask the Angels, Cubs,.White Sox, Dbacks, A's, Pirates, Phillies, Indians, etc.
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Wright is better than average and still only 29
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I dont buy into him as a top money player. He gets hurt alot. He had a good year, not great for 20+ million a year. He could go back to hitting 275 again next year.

Hes coming off a year with a 300 average, 20 home runs and 80 RBI. He is 29.

I can find a dozen players who arent strong arming their team to overpay them who had that same production.
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Wright is excellent. However, he's always come across as a bit of a private, low key guy. He realizes that full details of his contract will come out...he just doesn't want to have everything leaked out while negotiations are still ongoing. He's come out and said that the reports so far have been inaccurate. So for all we know he hasn't actually been offered as much as has been reported.

Look at Reyes last year. Mets fans went ballistic because he didn't accept the offer the Mets reportedly made to him. Traitor, greedy, etc. problem was...the Mets never even made an offer. But since "sources" got it wrong, as they often do, a whole lot of false claims showed up in print. The NY media is bullshit, and always has been.

Still I expect Wright will end up signing. He's said since the start of his career that he wants to be a Met for life. It's the team he grew up rooting for. It's just up to the front office to not cock it up.
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David Freese had just a slightly worse year than Wright did, for 1/8th the money.
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Wright is not EXCELLENT.
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Allen Craig had a better year that Wright, who had two weak years before this.

Should he get 20+ million.

If David Wright played in Kansas City no one would care who he is, want to pay him top money, or thing he is EXCELLENT.
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Hes the best player on a shitty team in a large market. That doesnt = Excellent.
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Also saying Wright gets hurt a lot is ridiculous. His only significant injury was in 2011. The only other time he missed any significant time was when he got beaned in the head by Matt Cain in 2009. Hardly his fault.
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I can probably find 10 3B I would take over Wright. And 50 players.

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Also saying Wright gets hurt a lot is ridiculous. His only significant injury was in 2011. The only other time he missed any significant time was when he got beaned in the head by Matt Cain in 2009. Hardly his fault.
Correct me if my memory is wrong, but its not the time missed. 2009 his numbers dropped big time due to nagging injuries as well as getting beaned. Same with 2011.
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2011 was the nagging injuries year. Just a crap year, no doubt. 2009 his power stroke disappeared and it was a pretty clear aberration - largely attributed to it being the first year at Citi Field. Nobody on the team hit for power that season. But his other peripherals were still there.

In general Wright shows why RBIs are a terrible statistic to use to measure the value of a player. He's had to play in some horrific lineups. When guys like Reyes and Pagan were hurt, Wright rarely had anybody to drive in. This year he had frickin Andres Torres hitting ahead of him...of course the RBIs are gonna go down.

Wright not only can hit and provide 25-30 dingers, but he plays a Gold Glove caliber 3B and also will get you around 15-20 SBs. Along with that he's praised as a clubhouse leader and really is the heart and soul of the franchise. That was why I would not at all be opposed to givin him the contract he is seeking. You take away David Wright, you take away the biggest reason Mets fans have to come to the ballpark.
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Heart and Soul of a losing team.

its the Shareef Abdur Rahim effect. Best player for a starved Franchise.

Im not saying he is bad, but he is very over rated as a superstar because of the team he plays for.

Seriously. 300 even, 25 HRs, good defense.

Meet Scott Rolen
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I can probably find 10 3B I would take over Wright. And 50 players.

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I want to see your 10.
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I can think of two third basemen I'd take over David Wright and one of them would not be allowed near third base on my fictional team
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I'd put Wright as the fourth best third baseman. I'd take Cabrera, Longoria and Beltre over him, then put Wright behind them along with Headley, Zimmerman, Sandoval, and Freese.
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He's not top 5, but Aramis Ramirez is a very solid 3B, real good numbers, especially as Braun's "protection" this year. As for Wright's numbers, I think the psychological effect of Citi field screwed with him for a year or two as well. Thats certainly no excuse, but maybe an explanation that Steve Phillips would throw out between rounds with a hooker.
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I would add Will Middlebrooks, Edwin Encarnacion (though I think he is playing more 1B at this point), Hanley Ramirez and Martin Prado as guys right up there. Different flavors of players but just as productive as Wright in ways.
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I would say Aramis on on par with David Wright as well.
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