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Old 12-31-2010, 05:00 PM   #41
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That's all there needs to be, the champions can appear on any show, they get double exposure and then the titles can actually mean something. Being champion means you get to be on both Raw and Smackdown! any time you want, double the pay, double the exposure. It sells itself.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:13 PM   #42
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I pose a counter claim to the TV title: the WWE Superstars championship. Only people who are on WWE superstars regularly can compete for it. It can only be defend on WWE Superstars on WGN America or on a PPV.

So, it gives the lower card guys a chance to be a champion and get some exposure on TV and on ppv as a piss break match.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:36 PM   #43
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WWE Undisputed Championship
WWE Intercontinental
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WWE Womens

That's all there needs to be, the champions can appear on any show, they get double exposure and then the titles can actually mean something. Being champion means you get to be on both Raw and Smackdown! any time you want, double the pay, double the exposure. It sells itself.
You're right, but with the way the WWE books champions wouldn't it make sense to have a title that can only be defended on TV and have the other titles keep their prestige.

They're wondering why PPV sales are so low now-a-days. Well it's because they're giving all these matches for free on TV that they are missing out on the importance of the match. Why would someone order the PPV when they just saw the match a week earlier for free on TV?

I see a lot of people complaining that they have title matches on TV that tarnish the reputation of the title. I myself don't really care but I do understand why people think it's blasphemy to have a WWE title match for free, and you know, I can see where they're coming from but it just doesn't bother me as much. So to have a title that is only defended on TV will not only help wrestlers become a champ, but it will help fans get a title defense on TV without tarnishing a major title.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:59 PM   #44
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WWE Undisputed Championship
WWE Intercontinental
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WWE Womens

That's all there needs to be, the champions can appear on any show, they get double exposure and then the titles can actually mean something. Being champion means you get to be on both Raw and Smackdown! any time you want, double the pay, double the exposure. It sells itself.
That's exactly how it should be. Like the 90's (early to mid 90's). Four titles, and that was it. That way, more time can be given to the feuds that involve each belt.

Also, before, anytime wrestlers had a feud, it was over the Title. One guy was the Champion, and another guy (or guys) went after him, because THEY wanted to have a shot at becoming Champion. Now, for the longest time, anytime wrestlers feud, it's something personal, there's an issue between them, and if one of them just HAPPENS to be the Champion, well, they'll wrestle for the Title, but the centerpiece of the feud is NOT the Title, the spotlight isn't on the belt and on each individual's quest to become Champion.

They should put the spotlight on the Titles once again.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:07 PM   #45
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That's exactly how it should be. Like the 90's (early to mid 90's). Four titles, and that was it. That way, more time can be given to the feuds that involve each belt.
Let's just agree that for every title to become relevant and for every storyline to mean something then the WWE needs to get rid of a lot of pay per views i.e. everyone but Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam and Survivor Series.

The reason why stories back then worked so well was because they didn't have to defend their title every month at every pay per view.

But the one thing missing back then was TV time and that is something now-a-days that is so important. They need to promote their PPVs and Raw and Smackdown are the prime resources so having a TV title would not only help wrestlers who don't make it to PPV's grow, but would help produce storylines.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:19 PM   #46
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The TV title would be great in many ways. Its matches would have a time limit of 10-15 minutes. It can do well for heel champions, retaining the title by the skin of their teeth by going the entire time limit, forcing a draw.

Plus, in the old WCW days, the TV title had amazing feuds, such as the Sting-Great Muta feud in 1989, Steve Austin's feuds with Barry Windham and Ricky Steamboat in 1992 and the triangle feuds Booker T had in the first half of 1998, first with Rick Martel and Perry Saturn, and then with Chris Benoit and Fit Finlay.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:22 PM   #47
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The TV title isn't needed anymore because the concept is outdated. The TV title was originally there to put a champion on TV and not waste the world champion on TV and instead leave them for live/big shows. They don't care about that anymore.

Keep the World, IC, Tag and Women's. If you REALLY want another, just leave the US title alone. There's no reason to bring the TV title into the mix, especially when you have a perfectly good title (US) with recent history behind it.

Also, saying the TV title had amazing feuds is completely moot because it's all about the writing. They could do amazing feuds for the IC title now but they don't.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:33 PM   #48
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The TV title isn't needed anymore because the concept is outdated. The TV title was originally there to put a champion on TV and not waste the world champion on TV and instead leave them for live/big shows. They don't care about that anymore.

Keep the World, IC, Tag and Women's. If you REALLY want another, just leave the US title alone. There's no reason to bring the TV title into the mix, especially when you have a perfectly good title (US) with recent history behind it.

Also, saying the TV title had amazing feuds is completely moot because it's all about the writing. They could do amazing feuds for the IC title now but they don't.
But you don't think by having a TV title that they would help create something meaninful to being a champion because now-a-days it means nothing to be champ because it changes hands so many times without the year. With a TV champ it would help make the champ legit, rather than having all these interm champs and actually create legacies and competitors.

The reason why the IC title had so many great feuds was because back then it meant something to have because it meant you were great and on that level of becoming the WWE champ, but now-a-days it means shit. In todays WWE you'll never see a IC vs WWE title match like you did back in the day.

I'm not saying the WWE should just re-create what they did back in the day, but do something inventive based on what had happened back in the day.

Don't look to the past and re-create, but look to the past as inspiration.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:36 PM   #49
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What's the point in creating a new title just so it could be booked well when you can do the same thing with a title that's already there?
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:49 PM   #50
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It means nothing to be champ so let's add another championship.
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:27 PM   #51
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First they need to stop the brand separation, and just go back to the ol' days, three belts (or four if you read the last part), world, ic, tag, and those champions are traveling from brand to brand, thus making the belt/person seem that much more important already.

The TV title and the IC belt are kind of the same exact thing, usually goes to the wrestler that can tear the house down day in and day out, the work horse of the roster (i.e. more frequent matches on tv), so they need to just rebuild the IC belt to where it was from when it started until about '99ish or so.

...and MAYBE if they wanted a mid card belt, then they would take the US title and turn that into a mid card title.
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Old 01-01-2011, 11:57 PM   #52
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Obviously the US and TV Title are for the workhorses of Raw and Smackedown!, represented by Bryan and Ziggler. If you add a TV Title, what is the point of the IC/US Title?

If WWE promoted the Intercontinental or US Champions as dangers top challengers for the WWE Championship or World Hvy. Weight Championship then they would be much more useful. The IC Title was a promotional tool to set up a future title contender, usually. Sometimes it is a mid card staple, now it is verging between the two.

They are giving Bryan and Ziggler great matches often on TV, carrying the work load night in and night out. However, the do not really promote them as well as say an Orton, Sheamus or Barrett even.

MY final opinion is this. They could use the US or IC Title to main event the TV shows a lot more, instead of the World titles. Use these titles on TV and the World Titles on PPV's only (except rare occasions). Simple.
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Yeah, and the U.S. and Intercontinental Champions should be the automatic #1 contender to its respective brand's World title.
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The Intercontinental Title should go back to being what it was: the Title WWE gave to those who they believed were "WWE Championship Material", so they could see if they REALLY were going to be able to Main Event, connect with the fans, etc.

Randy Savage, Bret Hart, Diesel, Shawn Michaels, Austin, Rock, Triple H, Edge, Jericho, Edge, Orton...as well as many more, I'm sure, were IC Champions before they won the WWE Title.
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:01 AM   #55
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Yeah, and the U.S. and Intercontinental Champions should be the automatic #1 contender to its respective brand's World title.
And what happens when the current IC Champ wins the World Title? They vacate the IC strap? Run as a double champ? I think that scenario is very short-sighted.

Whilst the IC Title should be a "stepping-stone" to the Main Event, it shouldn't be a direct shot at the champ. In fact, has it ever been used in that way!?
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I also don't like the idea of cross-brand champions with the brand "split" still in place.

Let's say the World Champ starts a fued on Raw, what happens over on Smackdown? There's a reason they added a 2nd World Title, remember when they had a single World Champ? IIRC we had HHH v Jericho, HHH v Hogan and Hogan v Taker in a short time span and it all came off as very convoluted with Number One Contenders on each brand, etc.

If the titles get unified then the brands need to too. Then you have the problem of fitting such a huge roster into the show. Whilst you have the same amount of TV time, you have to carry fueds over to the next 2 hours of TV. You have a MASSIVE Main Event talent pool and thus less chance of people moving up. It's a tricky situation to handle.
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If they did merge the world titles realistically you wouldn't have the champ appearing on both shows. You'd just make the IC or US (tag team?) title your main feud until someone from that brand won the title or the champ started feuding with someone from the show.
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Then people would complain that you have one show with no "main event focus".

Say you put Miz in a fued with Orton for 3 months, no World Title fued on Smackdown for 3 months!? C'mon, I mean, we know it's the "B Show" but that's ridiculous. They do want people to watch ALL of their shows, right?

Even if you bring the fued over to SmackDown - so that the main fued gets to go cross brand - it completely smashes the brand split (which I guess is pretty much non-existent now anyways) to the point where they might as well just end it.
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