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Old 06-11-2010, 01:39 PM   #41
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why is he named the big show? he isn't a show, he's a wrestler!
That's a nickname - doesn't count.
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:40 PM   #42
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I agree with you man, sometimes their name choices bug me too. I think some of it has to do with the characters evolving over time, but sometimes the name choices just plain don't make any sense.
At least when the Rock broke in, he used Maivia (his mothers name). Was Curt's Henning's wife's last name McGillicuty?
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Old 06-11-2010, 01:46 PM   #43
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At least when the Rock broke in, he used Maivia (his mothers name). Was Curt's Henning's wife's last name McGillicuty?
Exactly, sometimes I just don't get it. Maybe they think their 1st or 2nd generation wrestlers weren't big enough to make a difference when it comes to naming the 2nd or 3rd gen wrestlers, especially with the younger demographic they're targeting now.

As far as Henning's wife, I don't know what her last name was, but I doubt that's the case anyway.
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Old 06-11-2010, 02:06 PM   #44
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Old 06-11-2010, 02:38 PM   #45
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There is something about how the WWE hands out names that has been annoying me.

I know this has been discussed on the board before with regard to Joe Hening (Michael McGillicuty), but I was watching NXT on Wed (DVRd) and saw Alex Riley cut an awesome promo. So I googled him to see who his father was etc, and saw his REAL name is Kevin Kiley. That's fine (Alex Riley actually sounds better), but don't sit there and tell me that "Alex Riley" played at BC and his father was a Jet.

Even more insulting was having Michael McGillicuty cut an entire promo about how his father is Curt Henning, and so on. So why change the last name?

You can take is further, nobody named Jack Swasgger ever played football at OU, Jake Hager did.

Kofi Kingston - why is he billed from Ghana? Where did the accent go? Why the Jamaica Titantron?

The list goes on. I know the intitial reaction is, they are actors and the names dont mean anything, however, its not like you hear Charlie Harper claiming to be Martin Sheen's son on 2 1/2 Men.

Just a Rant, but something that has been bugging me.

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Old 06-11-2010, 03:24 PM   #46
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Marilyn Monroe wasn't really named Marilyn Monroe. Now that was fucking annoying.
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:27 PM   #47
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You're missing the point. Shawn Michaels does not claim to be some past football star.

I know that wrestlers are usually given an alias. What bothers me is that they are given an alias and then try to use their real background to create a character.
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Old 06-11-2010, 03:33 PM   #48
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like goldust being used as cody rhodes brother, yet they call him goldust
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Are you aware that the morning star and the evening star are both names for Venus? Does this change any of Venus' accomplishments? Can Venus no longer say that it played for Notre Dame if someone calls it The Morning Star?
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Are you aware that the morning star and the evening star are both names for Venus? Does this change any of Venus' accomplishments? Can Venus no longer say that it played for Notre Dame if someone calls it The Morning Star?
Again - those are nicknames. You would be okay with Venus being called Mars and still saying he played at ND?
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i thought all wrestling, or stage names, WERE nicknames

your logic is invalid
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If you called Venus "Mars" you would be making it a different character. Jack Swagger isn't an entirely different character from Jack Hager. Marilyn Monroe still went to the same high school that Norma Jeane Mortenson did.

The only time it would be weird if if you made Swagger's character into like Max Moon where the guy is from Parts Unknown. Then it isn't even logical to say that the guy went to OU. But for all other purposes there is nothing inherently contradictory with saying the same man went to that school because he did.
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If you called Venus "Mars" you would be making it a different character. Jack Swagger isn't an entirely different character from Jack Hager. Marilyn Monroe still went to the same high school that Norma Jeane Mortenson did.

The only time it would be weird if if you made Swagger's character into like Max Moon where the guy is from Parts Unknown. Then it isn't even logical to say that the guy went to OU. But for all other purposes there is nothing inherently contradictory with saying the same man went to that school because he did.
I don't know why you cant get my point. Marilyn Monroe was not trying to "sell" things she may have accomplished as Norma Jean and call her self Marylin Monroe. Jack Swagger claims that he is a real life All-American. No "Jack Swagger" was ever a an All-American.

Its as if Norma Jean had once won a Miss Universe contest and "Marilyn Monroe" had claimed to win that title. Michael McGillicuty claims to be Curt Hennig's son. Curt Henning has no son named Michael McGillicuty.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:10 PM   #54
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:09 PM   #55
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Its as if Norma Jean had once won a Miss Universe contest and "Marilyn Monroe" had claimed to win that title.
No, it's nothing like that. Especially since Monroe didn't make any pretense to hide her past.

What you're trying to compare would be closer to an actor playing a role in which the character claims the accomplishments of the actor as his own. I couldn't even think of an example, but that's what's going on and that's what you have a problem with.

In that light, should they make up awards? Pretend accomplishments? Ignore them altogether? I'm curious.
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right, those names don't sound good.

neither does mcgillicutty. and thats a given name. doesnt make sense.
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right, those names don't sound good.

neither does mcgillicutty. and thats a given name. doesnt make sense.
This much, I can relate to. Shawn Michaels and Steve Austin are changes for the better. McGillicutty sounds like he's trying to get into Ricky's show. Hunter Hearst Helmsley sounds kind of dumb for the character, but since he primarily goes by Triple H, it's mitigated (and it worked for his blue blood character).

It's not as bad as Kenny Dykstra, but....
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I don't know why you cant get my point. Marilyn Monroe was not trying to "sell" things she may have accomplished as Norma Jean and call her self Marylin Monroe. Jack Swagger claims that he is a real life All-American. No "Jack Swagger" was ever a an All-American.

Its as if Norma Jean had once won a Miss Universe contest and "Marilyn Monroe" had claimed to win that title. Michael McGillicuty claims to be Curt Hennig's son. Curt Henning has no son named Michael McGillicuty.
Emilio Estavez can no longer be Martin Sheen's son. Or maybe Martin Sheen shouldn't be the father since Estavez is the given name. Either way, they are no longer related.
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Daniel Faraday's mother is Eloise Hawkins and his father is Charles Widmore!?!? This is ridiculous, I mean smoke monsters, time travel and frozen donkey wheels I can believe but I'm supposed to buy that his last name is Faraday just because it sounds cool?
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Daniel Faraday's mother is Eloise Hawkins and his father is Charles Widmore!?!? This is ridiculous, I mean smoke monsters, time travel and frozen donkey wheels I can believe but I'm supposed to buy that his last name is Faraday just because it sounds cool?
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* Pier Angeli — Anna Maria Pierangeli
* Angιlica — Angιlica Ksyvickis
* Jennifer Aniston — Jennifer Joanna Anastassakis
* John Aniston — Ioannis Anastassakis
* Morris Ankrum — Morris Nussbaum
* Julia Ann — Julia Ann Tavella
* Ann-Margret — Ann-Margret Olsson



* ANT — Anthony Steven Kalloniatis
* Adam Ant — Stuart Leslie Goddard
* Ant & Dec — Anthony David McPartlin and Declan Joseph Oliver Donnelly
* Gerald Anthony — Gerald Anthony Bucchiarelli
* Little Anthony — Jerome Anthony Gourdine
* Lysette Anthony — Lysette Chodzko
* Marc Anthony — Marco Antonio Muρiz
* Michael Anthony — Michael Anthony Sobolewski
* Ray Anthony — Raymond Antonioni
* Steve Anthony — Steve Gomes
* Alan Anton — Alan Alizojvodic
* Apache (rapper) — Anthony Peaks
* Apache Indian — Steven Kapur
* Aphex Twin — Richard D. James
* apl.de.ap (Black Eyed Peas) — Allen Pineda Lindo
* Apollonia — Patricia Kotero
* Fiona Apple — Fiona Apple McAfee Maggart
* Jeremy Applegate — Paul Andrew Boyce
* Beni Arashiro — Arashiro Beni
* Fatty Arbuckle — Roscoe Conkling Arbuckle
* Eve Arden — Eunice Quedens
* Don Arden — Harry Levy
* Jann Arden — Jann Arden Richards
* Toni Arden — Antoinette Ardizzone
* Tina Arena — Filippina Lydia Arena
* Imperio Argentina — Magdalena Nile del Rνo
* Victor Argo — Victor Jimenez
* Harold Arlen — Chaim Arlook or Hyman Arluck (varying sources)
* Richard Arlen — Cornelius Richard Van Mattimore
* George Arliss — George Augustus Andrews
* Lil Armstrong — Lillian Hardin
* Desi Arnaz — Desiderio Alberto Arnaz y de Acha, III
* Desi Arnaz, Jr. — Desiderio Alberto Arnaz, IV
* James Arness — James Aurness
* Sig Arno — Siegfried Aron
* Danny Arnold — Arnold Rothmann
* Edward Arnold — Gunther Edward Arnold Schneider
* Kokomo Arnold — James Arnold
* Antonin Artaud — Antoine Marie Joseph Artaud
* Bea Arthur — Bernice Frankel



* Jean Arthur — Gladys Georgianna Greene
* Julia Arthur — Ida Lewis
* Asala — Asala Mostafa Nasri (aka Assala Nasry; aka Assalah)
* Ashanti — Ashanti Shaquoya Douglas
* Dorothy Ashby — Dorothy Jeanne Thompson
* Annaleigh Ashford — Annaleigh Swanson
* Brooke Ashley — Anne Marie Ballowe
* Sylvia Ashley — Edith Louisa Hawkes
* Edward Ashley — Edward Montague Hussey Cooper (or Edward Montagu Ashley Cooper, varying sources)
* Beata Asimakopoulou — Evdokia Asimakopoulou
* Lys Assia — Rosa Mina Schδrer
* Adele Astaire — Adele Marie Austerlitz
* Fred Astaire — Frederick Austerlitz
* Mary Astor — Lucile Vasconcellos Langhanke
* Astro — Terence Wilson
* Rich Asuncion — Richell Pacaldo Angalot
* Barry Atwater — Garrett Atwater
* Jeanne Aubert — Marguerite Perrinot
* Isabelle Aubret — Thιrθse Coquerelle
* James Aubrey — James Aubrey Tregidgo
* Cιcile Aubry — Anne-Josι Madeleine Henriette Bιnard
* Pascale Audret — Pascale Aiguionne Louise Jacqueline Marie Auffray
* Mischa Auer — Mikhail Semyonovich Unskovsky (some sources indicate Ounskowsky)
* Hugues Aufray — Hugues Jean Marie Auffray
* Jean-Pierre Aumont — Jean-Pierre Philippe Salomons
* Aunt Jemima — Therese "Tess" Gardella
* Gene Austin — Lemeul Eugene Lucas
* Lovie Austin — Cora Calhoun
* Stone Cold Steve Austin — Steven James Anderson, later Steven James Williams (legally changed to Steve Austin)
* Amy Austria — Esmeralda Dizon Tuazon
* Frankie Avalon — Francis Thomas Avallone
* Chucho Avellanet — Armando Hipσlito Avellanet Gonzαlez
* Patricia Avery — Elizabeth Anderson Avery
* Tex Avery — Frederick Bean Avery
* Val Avery — Sebouh Der Abrahamian
* Jane Avril — Jeanne Beaudon
* John Ayldon — John Arnold
* Ayọ — Joy Olasunmibo Ogunmakin
* Agnes Ayres — Agnes Eyre Henkel
* AZ — Anthony Cruz
* Trey Azagthoth — George Emmanuel III
* Charles Aznavour — Shahnour Aznavurjan

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* Derek B — Derek Bolland
* Eric B — Eric Barrier
* Jazzie B — Beresford Romeo
* Jon B. — Jonathan David Buck
* Mel B — Melanie Janine Brown
* B-Real — Louis Freese
* Baaziz (more detailed article in French) — Abdelazziz Bakhti, Algerian-born Berber singer
* Babyface — Kenneth Brian Edmonds
* Baby Marie — Helen Alice Myres
* Baby Peggy — Peggy-Jean Montgomery (later known as Diana Serra Cary)
* Lauren Bacall — Betty Joan Perske
* Barbara Bach — Barbara Goldbach
* Catherine Bach — Catherine Bachman
* Sebastian Bach — Sebastian Philip Bierk
* Badly Drawn Boy — Damon Gough
* Angela Baddeley — Madeline Angela Clinton-Baddeley
* Hermione Baddeley — Hermione Youlanda Ruby Clinton-Baddeley
* Erykah Badu — Erica Wright
* Buff Bagwell — Marcus Alexander Bagwell
* Benny Bailey — Ernest Harold Bailey
* Mildred Bailey — Mildred Rinker
* Barbara Bain — Millicent Fogel
* Cheryl Baker — Rita Maria Crudgington
* George Baker — Johannes Bouwens
* Ginger Baker — Peter Edward Baker
* Josephine Baker — Freda Josephine McDonald
* LaVern Baker — Delores Williams
* Nick Baker — Seth Bushman




How dare they use fake names!
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Using a similar logic as in the initial post, wrestler who have won championships with different names within the WWE wouldn't be recognized as having captured the championship. The 1-2-3 Kid won the tag team championship with Marty Jannetty. That reign is recognized despite him becoming X-Pac.

Obviously there could be kayfabe exceptions to this. I doubt they are going to acknowledge Dolph Ziggler won tag gold in the Spirit Squad any time soon, but that is because the character is a supposed to be an entirely different person.
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