Del Rio: The Lesnar Push?

[Onyx]

XL, you don't like me? Aww, I'm hurt. I really am. Seriously. Like really really. Oh, wait. No, never mind. I'm over it.

"Dumping" is simply an expression. Have him stripped of it by some ruling that Teddy doesn't want him holding two belts. Have him forfeit it. Be creative. I don't care. Shortly before Stone Cold won his first WWE title he literally threw the IC belt to the floor as he chose to forfeit it to The Rock as opposed to defend it because he decided all he cared about was the WWE title. Did this make Rock's run any weaker? Did it make the belt look bad then? No. In fact, The Rock went on to have one hell of a run, and quite an impressive feud with none other than Triple H. Austin "dumping" the belt didn't hurt it one bit.

Anybody Thrilla, in the scenario I put forth, I also mentioned the possibility of Champion vs. Champion like Warrior vs. Hogan, which was in fact title for title. So you say it leaves no opening for an IC title program. I disagree. Also, by the way, the current IC title program going into WrestleMania is what again? Oh right, there isn't one. Thank god the IC title isn't around the waist of someone who actually has a match. That way it's open for, well, don't worry I'm sure they'll think of something.

Snowden, I see you wrote a lot, and all towards little ol' me too. I'm flattered I'm still on your mind. Well to be perfectly honest, I didn't read any of what you wrote. Sorry but it's been a long day and an even longer night and I'm really not up to that much reading. So I'm just going to go ahead and assume that it's more of the same inane pointless bitching that ultimately goes nowhere and has absolutely no thought behind it other than "Onyx hurt my feelings. I say stuff now. Blah blah blah blah." Unlike you, I had a point, I've made the point, and no one has really offered a worthwhile argument against my point, so I'm bored. And I'm sure you'll continue bitching and moaning and crying like a hurt kid on the playground for as long as I let you, but personally I'm as bored discussing Del Rio as I am your incessant babbling. So I'm done with this thread. Unlike you, I know how to move on. But feel free to keep talking about me. Not like you have anything better to do, right? See you on other posts, I'm sure

[Mr. Nerfect]

Onyx, you're fighting a losing battle. Snowden is right.

Look, I actually came forward and suggested a similar thing for Alberto Del Rio, too. I don't think he *needed* the IC Title, like you seem to believe he does, but I thought it would be cool if Del Rio won the title en route to WrestleMania, and then they did Champion vs. Champion against Edge. It'd add just a little more to their feud, true. You'd get a confirmed title change, and it'd be only the second time in WrestleMania history its happened -- the first being a show where Edge was in attendance as a fan.

BUT, that's not the route the WWE chose to take, and that's fine. They obviously want the Intercontinental Title on Kofi Kingston right now. What's wrong with that? It helps get Kofi over, and it may not be anything groundbreaking for the title, but more power to Kofi, who also has the chance to be a big star for the WWE in the future.

Now, given that Kofi was the Intercontinental Champion, I don't think his match against Alberto Del Rio should have been non-title at the Elimination Chamber. But, it was. I, personally, would have booked Kofi Kingston vs. Del Rio for the IC Title on SmackDown! with Christian costing Del Rio the match to Kofi. It looks great for Kingston and the IC Title, and it continues the storyline of Christian having a problem with the man who took him out. But whatever.

Doesn't change that everything Snowden is saying is right -- Del Rio has been booked like a big deal right from the start. He showed up and made Rey Mysterio submit in the main event of SmackDown!, and regardless of your personal opinion of the guy, Del Rio is a great business investment in the WWE (he's really helped out their television ratings in Mexico), and he doesn't seem out of place. Since last year he's been promoted as one of "SmackDown!'s biggest stars," and that's the way the WWE has presented him from the start -- that is how people accept him. He's getting great heat, and he's credible -- that's a rarity in the WWE, and booking him into mid-card feuds doesn't need to be a priority if that is the case, and there's a desire to use him at the main event level.

Now, to change gears a little bit: I'm not entirely sure Del Rio will win the World Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania. I can see the WWE dialing back on his push a little bit. Del Rio is a different case to guys like Wade Barrett, Sheamus and even Swagger, in that he has a history being successful in the business, and his involvement in the WWE has really has an immediate effect on the WWE's success in some regions. Del Rio being slightly older than your "new guy getting pushed" and having that experience, as well as the legitimacy in MMA (an avenue he has already explored, so perhaps Vince trusts him a bit more), makes him a unique case -- much like Lesnar was in 2002/2003. But, I can see Christian helping Edge retain, and then Del Rio going over Christian and perhaps moving to RAW, or then taking the World Heavyweight Title.

Del Rio is the bad guy, remember? We are meant to be happy when he loses. As long as they keep him looking like a world-beater, a loss here and there isn't going to delay the inevitable with Del Rio. It's very similar to what the WWE did with Wade Barrett, in my opinion -- they had all the cards stacked so that he could win the WWE Title last year, but decided to come up with a plausible explanation allowing Orton to retain, without making Barrett look weak.

[XL]

Yeah but Onyx doesn't buy him as Main Event! Which means nobody else does because he didn't win he IC Title in the way that Onyx wanted it to happen!!!

[Snowden]

Originally Posted by Onyx Snowden, I see you wrote a lot, and all towards little ol' me too. I'm flattered I'm still on your mind. Well to be perfectly honest, I didn't read any of what you wrote. Sorry but it's been a long day and an even longer night and I'm really not up to that much reading. So I'm just going to go ahead and assume that it's more of the same inane pointless bitching that ultimately goes nowhere and has absolutely no thought behind it other than "Onyx hurt my feelings. I say stuff now. Blah blah blah blah." Unlike you, I had a point, I've made the point, and no one has really offered a worthwhile argument against my point, so I'm bored. And I'm sure you'll continue bitching and moaning and crying like a hurt kid on the playground for as long as I let you, but personally I'm as bored discussing Del Rio as I am your incessant babbling. So I'm done with this thread. Unlike you, I know how to move on. But feel free to keep talking about me. Not like you have anything better to do, right? See you on other posts, I'm sure

Act like a prick when you're talked into a corner, thats fine. I'm terribly sorry you've grown oh so tired of debating wrestling on a wrestling forum, how presumptuous of me to continue.