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So, for those who just want names:
To SmackDown!: Daniel Bryan John Morrison R-Truth (I can actually possibly see this as a supplementary move with a bit more weight than your average supplementary move) Randy Orton Sheamus Sin Cara Ted DiBiase To RAW: Alberto Del Rio Big Show Chris Masters (more than likely a supplementary move, but something that becomes a bigger deal) Drew McIntyre Jack Swagger Kane Kelly Kelly Kofi Kingston Wade Barrett And while I'm sure there will be supplementary moves, those are so random and could literally see the entire lower-card rosters change. |
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But that means that there will have to be some sort of turns going on the SmackDown! side, since things are so top-heavy. In that case, I'll probably take back the move of Alberto Del Rio and maybe even Wade Barrett.
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I've been saying forever, I want the draft to end. People say that if they end the draft then alot of guys would be pushed to the bottom because there wouldn't be enough camera time for all the smackdown and raw guys. Well I say good because then you will have guys scratching and clawing to the top more than ever and everybody will be forced to bring their A-game and then some night after night. It would be great for us the fans!
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You won't have guys scratching and clawing. You'll have guys working for peanuts in TNA because there's not enough room in four hours of weekly TV for a roster of nearly 80 guys.
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I don't want Cody being fed to the Cena machine so whatever happens past that I'm down with.
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the low Art Gloominati
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Randy Orton To Smackdown (Edge's fill in as big draw)
Sheamus to Smackdown Morrison to Smackdown (due to the backstage heat) Daniel Bryan To Smackdown.. Ted DiBiase to Smackdown... (reunion with Cody?) R-Truth To Smackdown Evan Bourne to Smackdown. Chris Jericho to Smackdown Khali to Smackdown Cole to Smackdown Undertaker to RAW Alberto Del Rio to RAW Kofi Kingston to RAW Wade Barrett to RAW (PUNK VS BARRET!) Kane to RAW |
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I'm thinking it may not be Orton who goes to SmackDown!. Rather, I could see CM Punk being drafted, leaving Orton with Nexus to take out. I mean, *cough*, make into stars. While many people think a top face is going to fill the whole left by Edge, I think Christian could be built-up to be that guy. Keep in mind that Rey Mysterio is also a top-tier babyface, and that Morrison being drafted is not out of the question. Punk would add depth to the heel side of things on SmackDown!, which currently goes about as deep as Alberto Del Rio and Wade Barrett. Yeah, you have Drew McIntyre and Cody Rhodes in the wings, but I see at least one of them changing brands.
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This is why i hate the draft. Trades would be SO much better. Just so many ways either show can get screwed during it.
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I firmly believe John Morrison is going to get traded to Smackdown.
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yes. yes. yes.
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Noid always gets these predictions wrong.
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Either John Morrison or Melina will.
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That would be a pretty terrible move.
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An Alberto Del Rio vs John Cena rivalry would be very good.
Actually, for some reason I can see Del Rio as a possible opponent for The Undertaker at WM28... ...he's good on the mic, a good wrestler...is Latino, which caters to Miami, Florida, where WM28 will take place... ...I don't know... |
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The Miz stands right at the beginning of a streak himself, being now 2-0. This is a feud that could work. The idea of Miz establishing his own streak by ending that of The Undertaker is one that would give him a motivation simply beyond making a name for himself. Given that and maybe even a guest referee, this one could be a winner.
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I'd rather have the "Must See" WWE Champion on RAW thanks and I highly doubt they would ship Cena to SD but ya never know I wouldn't be against it.
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They should've waited one more week. The day after Extreme Rules would make more sense.
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We are overdue for a championship swap. I think one actually happens every three years or so. The titles were separated in 2002, then in 2005 the World Heavyweight Title and WWE Title swapped shows, and I believe the same thing happened again in 2008? I think The Miz suits RAW just fine, but it really wouldn't surprise me if we got the WWE Champion and World Heavyweight Champion swapping brands. And while that might seem like a demotion to The Miz, I think he'd talk up SmackDown! great; and really hype himself going there as the most "must-see" event in WWE history. He could cut some deep promos about how he started on the show as its host, and now returns to it its Champion. He would also look amazing if he retained the WWE Title at Extreme Rules, when everyone thinks he loses because he's going to SmackDown!, and it's the last chance for Cena or Morrison to save the title for RAW.
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After watching SD tonight I had to update my selections up a little.
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...Michael Cole is 1-0...so being 2-0 isn't that big of a deal... ...BTW, by the time Miz is 7-0, Undertaker will be retired, so...I don't see that feud happening...at least not like THAT. |
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As much sense as it makes to give SmackDown a major name like Miz or Orton (not Cena, they've gone as far as refunding Raw tickets when Cena can't be there - so he's a Raw lifer unless he ever turned heel) - I just don't see it. SmackDown gets habitually screwed in this thing every year. By 2012 some of the guys doing nothing on Raw will have become stars on SmackDown, and they'll go right back over to Raw.
So here's my final picks. Last year there were 8 roster moves on the televised portion of the draft, 3 of which came via one battle royal. Figure it will be similar this year. Televised Draft To Raw: 1. Kane 2. Big Show 3. Cody Rhodes 4. Kelly Kelly To SmackDown: 1. John Morrison 2. Sheamus 3. Sin Cara 4. Mason Ryan (pick conveniently happens right after Punk or Nexus lose a match, Punk flips that his big backup is now off the show) Supplemental Draft To Raw: 1. Wade Barrett (yeah, the IC champ doesn't even make it to the televised draft) 2. Drew McIntyre 3. Beth Phoenix 4. Trent Barreta 5. Justin Gabriel 6. Curt Hawkins To SmackDown: 1. Daniel Bryan 2. Mark Henry 3. Ted DiBiase 4. The Usos 5. Gail Kim 6. Yoshi Tatsu |
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As you already pointed out, by the time Miz is 7-0, Undertaker will be retired, so that's why I see that feud happening. It's just too good to pass up. I can just picture Undertaker not returning until the Royal Rumble as a surprise entrant and winning. On SmackDown the following Friday night, it's hyped up that Undertaker will announce who he'll face at WrestleMania at the end of the night. When it comes to that time, it's Miz who instead comes out and cuts a promo on Undertaker, bringing up his (at that point) 14-month title reign and 2-0 record at WrestleMania and challenging Undertaker to challenge him. Undertaker comes out and stares down Miz to end the show, not saying a word. At Elimination Chamber, Miz retains the title inside the chamber. After the match, the lights go out, and Undertaker appears in the ring and chokeslams Miz, signaling that the match is on for WM28. |
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...Even 5-0 is more respectable then 2-0.
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Wow, three more.
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An updated list of the moves I see taking place. A lot of the supplementary ones I can see leading to releases, and some guys (Husky Harris, for example) will probably be repackaged before they see the main roster again.
To SmackDown!: Alex Riley: I think the WWE does this move to give the fans a "heels being forced to break-up" happy moment, and to test the waters with Riley as his own man on SmackDown!. I can see this move happening on the main show, with The Miz perhaps even throwing a match (conserving energy for his Steel Cage WWE Title defense), and it thus backfiring on him. I know rumours say that The Miz might change brands, but I think the WWE keeps the WWE Title and the most must-see man in sports entertainment on RAW. CM Punk and the Nexus: I see Punk as being in a similar position to Chris Jericho a while back -- probably the best heel the WWE has, but not the heel they want at the forefront at this particular point in time. Two of the three Nexus members are also very green, and thus could use the B-show as a chance to improve before they get that main exposure. The Nexus could be treated as a serious threat on SmackDown!, especially with Punk becoming the de facto #1 heel there after some other moves take place. Daniel Bryan: SmackDown! is just a great fit for him. They can pipe in cheers, and he can work longer matches. It's win-win. There was a time when it was sane to have Bryan on RAW -- he was a hot commodity for a while last year. But now that he's cooled, Bryan could really use the chance to build himself on SmackDown!. David Hart Smith: I don't know/think that Smith will be used in a big way, and I have a feeling he might actually be leaving the WWE soon, but I think SmackDown! is just a better fit for him, and this is just one of those supplementary draft moves that just happens. Eve Torres: Just a move to try and get some interest in the blue brand by appealing to red-blooded males. Gail Kim: She's not doing much but accompanying Daniel Bryan, and if he goes to SmackDown!, it'd make sense to move her, too. She can wrestle, and really help the Divas Division on the blue side of things. She's not really adding anything critical to the RAW girls and their shit. Goldust: He's inactive at the moment, but I think he gets moved in the supplementary draft and ends up on the same show as his brother (who I am taking off my draft list). People love Goldust, so they will actually care about this supplementary draft move. Also, I can't remember the last time Goldust was ever officially part of the SmackDown! roster. There's something fresh about it. John Morrison: I still think JoMo gets moved, partially as punishment, partially to hide his weaknesses and to focus on his strengths -- good ring work and making more moments for highlight reels. I think Morrison has a chance to become the top babyface on SmackDown!, and that can help he transition back over to RAW next year or something, to really make a big impact. Mark Henry: I think The World's Strongest Man will be retiring soon, but for the moment, Henry is still part of the active roster, and isn't doing much of anything. Why not move him? Henry is heaps over, so moving the guy would create that interest that often isn't there with other supplementary draft moves. Melina: They might release Melina in the spring cleaning, but I see her moving, even though Johnny Nitro might be doing the same, just to send a message to her -- that being that her position on RAW isn't sacred. Melina returning to SmackDown! would be quite fresh at this stage of the game, and she could put over some girls there -- like Layla, Gail Kim and Eve Torres. Natalya: She's a great ring worker, but she's been lost in the shuffle on RAW. Why not move her, get the commentators excited/disappointed hotties are leaving/joining their brand, and give her a refresh on SmackDown!? Plus, I have a feeling that Beth Phoenix will be moving, so Natalya serves as a fair trade-off for that. Primo: Just a random supplementary draft move. I think this guy is overdue for another stint on SmackDown!, where he can do the things he does best -- fly around the ring. Sheamus: He's never officially been a part of the SmackDown! roster, and it creates a fresh atmosphere around the Celtic Warrior -- which is why the WWE does these drafts in the first place -- to freshen things up. The guy doesn't seem to have anything special going on over RAW's way (besides being a dominant mid-card champion), which is why he can do by taking the belt over to SmackDown!, anyway. Sin Cara: The show just seems perfect for him. This will be one of the main draft moves, in my opinion, and Cara will benefit from being in the taped environment. He's already gotten a hell of a rub from his tiny stint as part of the RAW roster, anyway. Ted DiBiase: He goes to SmackDown! to get the same reboot that Cody Rhodes did last year. I think DiBiase will be instantly more relevant given a change of scenery. And like Sheamus and Goldust, he just hasn't ever been part of the SmackDown! brand, which makes the move all the more refreshing. Tyson Kidd: This guy is getting better and better on the mic, but his strength is always going to be his ring skills, and they are better utilized on SmackDown!. I could see the guy being a great mid-card heel on blue brand. William Regal: Just a random supplementary move to create the illusion of change. Regal being on SmackDown! would actually be refreshing, if he worked the occasional match, don't get me wrong. But I think Regal is stepping away from an active role, hence his new commentary position on NXT. So he's always going to be at the tapings, anyway, it just reduces the travel Regal needs to make. A logical move, in my opinion. Yoshi Tatsu: The guy worked SmackDown! the other week like he was part of the roster, anyway. They might as well just move the guy and put him on the wrestling show. They can even do a sad separation between Tatsu and Maryse on the last NXT of this season. Zack Ryder: He's got a great character, but I think it's just got more of a chance being taken seriously on SmackDown! than it does RAW. I'd love to see more Ryder vs. Christian matches down the track. To RAW: Alberto Del Rio, Brodus Clay & Ricardo Rodriguez: Team Del Rio moves as a major draft, and Del Rio emphasizes that it is not only his destiny to win the World Heavyweight Title, but it now MUST be done at Extreme Rules. He doesn't achieve this, but he does become one of the top forces on RAW, which I can see fitting him well. Beth Phoenix: This is one of the moves I'm willing to put a small amount of money on. Phoenix hasn't really been doing much on SmackDown!, and she really should be doing something. Trade her for some of the girls that aren't doing much on RAW but should be (Gail Kim, Natalya, etc.). It'd also be good to see Glamarella together again. Chavo Guerrero: Not a major move, and I don't think Chavo gets a huge push or anything like that, but I think he could be a great veteran presence backstage, making up for William Regal and Mark Henry being traded to SmackDown!. He could work some matches against Dolph Ziggler, or something. He might also help with RAW's standing with Hispanic fans. Have Del Rio & Guerrero on RAW and Mysterio & Mistico on SmackDown!. Chris Masters: A supplementary move, but I still see Masters getting a nice push for himself later this year. SmackDown! (well, Superstars) has proven that Masters can work a good match, but his guilty pleasure-style would work better in shorter, more dominating matches. The Corre: I can see them all being drafted together. Wade Barrett has lost something since moving to SmackDown!, and he just works better on the live show, I think. Right now he's the Intercontinental Champion, and a trade with Sheamus might really freshen things up. I think Barrett needs to get away from Big Show right now. He's the group heat killer. Justin Gabriel's 450s are always a nice spot and a good addition to RAW, and Ezekiel Jackson's style just fits the red show more. Heath Slater might not seem to fit the RAW scene right now, but he doesn't seem to fit the SmackDown! scene much, either. Whether they break-up or stay together, I think The Corre could make an interesting (re)addition to RAW. Drew McIntyre: He's not doing much of anything on SmackDown!, and he hasn't been a part of RAW since he's re-debuted as The Chosen One. He's a young man, with a marketable look, and fits the whole "SmackDown! guy RAW can steal and possibly ruin" archetype. Actually, I see McIntyre doing quite well on RAW, truthfully. Hornswoggle: Why? Why not? The kids love him, and he doesn't really do much wherever he goes. His move makes the children pop, keeps him floating, and doesn't really hurt anyone. I could see him actually being drafted on the main show, too -- probably as part of a big RAW win, where they get a handful of draft picks -- and his image pops up just before someone like Kane's does. Jack Swagger: He's got more going on on RAW as a SmackDown! Superstar than he does on SmackDown!. Hell, he's got more going on on RAW than a lot RAW guys do. Just make the move official. JTG: I see him being a victim of spring cleaning, unfortunately, but I'd like to see JTG be given one more chance to get over -- and the RAW atmosphere just seems more akin to the style he brings. Kaitlyn: I could see her being released in the spring cleaning, but I don't see the problem with her moving to RAW, just to create the illusion of change. I feel like I've said that before in this very post. She was also her most over when she was feuding with Vickie Guerrero, and Vickie is on RAW. Just saying. Kane: I feel that either Kane or Big Show have to move, and the only reason I'm picking Kane is because I feel that Show is probably more of the marketed attraction at this point, and Show helps SmackDown! more than Kane does. The Big Red Machine also doesn't step on too many toes, as he seems to be a background player, even whilst working in the main event. Kelly Kelly: I think the WWE wants her to be the new Torrie Wilson, or the new Stacy Keibler. Not a great worker, and she probably won't ever be (although she has had a few matches that have actually been quite enjoyable), but she can be a huge part of the company's marketing strategy. One of their "attractions." She'd fit RAW for this reason. She originally moved to SmackDown! to get them some attention, but now I think that's played out, and Eve does that this year, with Kelly returning to RAW. Michelle McCool: Mrs Undertaker moves where her husband does, for one. Secondly, I think she's a Diva the WWE actually takes seriously. She and Layla did a great job on SmackDown! so much that they got used on RAW, as well. But this is McCool's official promotion to the RAW brand, which would be refreshing to the Divas angles on both sides. Tyler Reks: Like everyone confined to Superstars, Reks could very well find himself being released in the coming weeks, but I'd like to see him given another shot higher up on the card. Let him tear through the RAW scene for a bit. He's a good worker for his size, and he'd just fit RAW that tiny bit more than he does SmackDown!. The Undertaker: This one will be the huge move of the draft, I think. The Undertaker's career is winding down, and although it is always great to see him promoted in association with SmackDown!, they'll still have Rey Mysterio, Big Show, the Nexus, John Morrison, Sin Cara, etc. as symbols or faces to associate with the brand. The Undertaker hasn't been a part of RAW since the early days of the draft. Also, I'd like to see him and Triple H part of the same brand, and while that could easily be SmackDown!, it just fits RAW better, in my opinion. |
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Evan Bourne to unemployment
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Fuckin' muties.
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some major baby has to go to smack down to take the place of Edge, cause lord knows this christian push will only last 3 months at the most. orton would seem logical seeing as raw isnt big enhough for both orton and cena. titles swapping this year also seems likely. barret to raw, shemus to smackdown. miz will prolly head to smack down seeing as the cena/miz program has been done and after that they always get rid of the heels. gotta keep fresh to feed to hogan after all. so that means a rising heel steps in, likely del rio, to be the next cannon fodder heel for cena. danielson isunemployment line bound with a short stop over on smackdown prolly wont bother airing the move. my gut says morrison will go but with the program with r-truth starting up i cant see it. raw already got their midcard heel early in ziggler so i imagine no other notable midcard heels will head to raw. michell mccool will likely go to raw now that taker isnt touring. bath pheonix might as well. not too confident on that one tho. i imagine the miz being drafted will be their "hook" tho and everything else will just kinda be...meh. by in large.
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sorry for the block of text... my phone just spits it out that way
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...and now that i start looking threw the thread i see that people already posted my thoughts...*sigh*
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Kane & Big Show dont need to move, as tag champs they appear on both shows anyway.
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Oh okay. Honestly don't remember that.
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How I would book it, not necessarily how I think it will happen:
Televised Each brand gets five "picks," with ten supplemental picks (more on that later. RAW gets Alberto Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Kane, Michelle McCool, and Undertaker SmackDown gets the Bella Twins, John Morrison, Randy Orton, Sin Cara, and The Miz There's also a big midcarder battle royal with supplemental draft implications. The winning brand gets eight of the ten supplemental picks (again chosen at "random") Supplemental Draft RAW gets Chavo Guerrero and Ezekiel Jackson SmackDown gets Daniel Bryan, Goldust, Jey Uso, Jimmy Uso, Ted DiBiase, The Great Khali, Tyson Kidd, and Zack Ryder ----- Looking at the rosters, RAW has way more depth than SmackDown, so a stipulation like the one I laid out would be a great way to shore up the blue-brand roster. |
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I honestly can't see Orton being accepted as the "Face of Smackdown" like Edge was. I think it will kill him a bit to go that show
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I think they'd be better suited to have Christian be the top babyface. The fans want him to be the guy now that Edge is gone. But I think WWE still doesn't see him as such. Orton's the #2 guy, so I think they'll want him there.
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