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Old 10-27-2012, 12:35 AM   #41
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Shisen...... dude, you know that name is already being used in China, with monkeys + elephants. Cmon man!
Monkeys have amazing workrate. And they cut the kind of promo smarks like.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:47 AM   #42
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Monkeys cut the kind of promo smarks like.
So they just throw shit at each other until something sticks?
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:29 PM   #43
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The first one, perhaps. He's milked the same four or five ideas for like a decade. The only reason people don't notice is they see a wall o text and assume he's put effort into it (as opposed to just changing the names and events).
I'm always trying to come up with new stuff that comes from the character and personalities of the individuals involved, but to play into your accusations -- when it comes to basic storytelling, there are the seven types. The wheel doesn't always need to be reinvented. In fact, there's a reason the wheel works so well.

Also, I can't believe you can't accept that Punk out-popped DX at Survivor Series 2006. There is video evidence of this. You like to argue and put words into people's mouths (I mean that ever-so-affectionately...truthfully) -- it's your style -- but it's not like you to ignore facts.

DISCLAIMER: I am not saying that CM Punk was consistently more over in more places than DX in 2006. But that you can deny the Philly crowd choosing to chant "CM Punk!" during DX's spiel is amazing. Especially when you have Triple H incorporating Punk into their shtick on the fly.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:36 PM   #44
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I have no cared about the WWE much recently, for the record. I find Team Hell No really entertaining. As personalities, I think the last team I enjoyed this much was Booker T & Goldust. CM Punk is a fantastic worker, promo and one of the best actors on such a badly acted show; but I haven't really been into his heel stuff. Mainly because I totally agree with him. It used to be that being the WWE Champion meant you were the top guy, and now apparently there is a constant question mark next to that?

Dolph Ziggler is really great, but he doesn't make me want to tune-in as a character. He's a great worker and a good promo, but I want to see him feuding with someone, I guess.

I dunno -- I just don't really care at the moment. I think the WWE needs to create a stir. A heel turn from John Cena against CM Punk earlier this year might have done the trick, but that boat has been missed, now that Punk has committed himself to being a heel (a role he does admittedly play a lot better). And for the record, I know that Cena was never going to turn heel, since there is much kid-friendly merchandise being sold on his behalf -- but I don't think it can be denied that it would have created a stir and freshened the product up.
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