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Old 10-05-2016, 09:21 PM   #41
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I'm all for this match happening at Survivor Series. Not feeling it for a WrestleMania but it instantly makes Survivor Series seem like a pretty huge deal.
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:42 PM   #42
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Old 10-05-2016, 09:46 PM   #43
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I thought Goldberg was actually pretty decent when he had a good opponent. I don't think Brock is that guy. But we'll see. Can't say i wouldn't be interested in watching
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Fucking retarded. Goldberg was relevant for five minutes almost 20 years ago doing a generic act in a company that pulled it off entirely by accident and fucked it up as soon as they realized what was happening. Why anyone thinks this will be any better than their WM 20 outing is beyondme. The only thing smart about this is putting the match on the one PPV that could really do with the viewership boost but won't do much damage if it bombs.

TL;DR: Fuck Goldberg.
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:10 PM   #47
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I can't remember enjoying one single Goldberg match.
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I fucks heavy with Lesnar, though.
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:12 PM   #49
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Meh towards the idea of a Goldberg-Lesnar match. Pretty much a waste of both guys and both have more to lose from the match itself.

Goldberg losing would just feel like another LOLWCW moment by Vince and not gettign any real rub if he won. Same for Lesnar losing hurting his aura more and the win doing nothing for him.
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:14 PM   #50
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I enjoyed his one with Regal where he actually had to wrestle and they fired Regal though. So, fuck that one too.
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:15 PM   #51
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Yeah...I just can't imagine one single scenario where this would end well.

What city is Survivor Series in, btw?
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:16 PM   #52
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I enjoyed his one with Regal where he actually had to wrestle and they fired Regal though. So, fuck that one too.
You enjoyed that for the wrong reasons, it sounds like. I enjoy Regal a lot more than I ever enjoyed Goldberg, but it sounds like Regal was being pretty unprofessional there, doesn't it?
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:36 PM   #53
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Yeah...I just can't imagine one single scenario where this would end well.

What city is Survivor Series in, btw?
Toronto
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:38 PM   #54
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Didn't he have a good one with DDP?
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Didn't he have a good one with DDP?
I heard about it, but I never watched it. I tried to, but the feed cut because the show went long.
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It seems like that crowd might deuce on that match, doesn't it?
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I remember attending a WCW PPV in Toronto where the fans totally pooped all over Goldberg.
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:49 PM   #58
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Ah sorry.

But yeah, I figured it'd be that way.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:46 AM   #59
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You enjoyed that for the wrong reasons, it sounds like. I enjoy Regal a lot more than I ever enjoyed Goldberg, but it sounds like Regal was being pretty unprofessional there, doesn't it?


Dunno. More inclined to believe Regal. He's been completely open about himself about past mistakes before, and has taken full accountability for them. Would be super weird if he lied about this one thing, especially since he has admitted a lot worse about his life.
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http://www.wwe.com/article/goldberg-...n-sportscenter

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Old 10-07-2016, 10:22 AM   #61
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Yeah...I just can't imagine one single scenario where this would end well.

What city is Survivor Series in, btw?
Apparently it's going to be in Suplex City.

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Old 10-07-2016, 11:29 AM   #62
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Hope Goldberg comes back in Batista shapeople and gets gassed 2 minutes into the match.
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I heard about it, but I never watched it. I tried to, but the feed cut because the show went long.
Googled and people said he had a really good match with Raven for the US title.
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Actually, yes, I do remember enjoying that one.
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Dunno. More inclined to believe Regal. He's been completely open about himself about past mistakes before, and has taken full accountability for them. Would be super weird if he lied about this one thing, especially since he has admitted a lot worse about his life.
Sorry, listening to SCG at the moment. What happened here?
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Old 10-07-2016, 04:10 PM   #66
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Dunno. More inclined to believe Regal. He's been completely open about himself about past mistakes before, and has taken full accountability for them. Would be super weird if he lied about this one thing, especially since he has admitted a lot worse about his life.
Seriously, he's been openly honest about a lot of stuff that shows what a dick he was in the past. I can't imagine him not just saying "yeah, he needed to be taught a lesson and no one else was ready to do it."
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The match has to be 5 minutes long.

Pretty desperate move by WWE here if this is happening.
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It seems like that crowd might deuce on that match, doesn't it?
They could, but this is the crowd that cheered Hogan over Rock at WMX8. Ask Shisen, he was there you know.

The crowd will be...hot. And they might be completely into Goldberg in a weird sort of way. An actual star being there ready to kick ass. It might get them invested and they might decide to take ownership of it.

There's almost a pre-smarky love for Goldberg that I think even your educated fan still holds. He represents something lost in the business today. It is possible that they will just see "shit wrestler; ended Bret Hart's career; massive payday" but they might also see the better part of Goldberg, especially if they go into the match with buddies that are more interesting in wrestling because he's back and the general feeling is good.
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Goldberg still doesn't feel "WWE." And they've done a lot to make themselves the villains over the years. Berg coming in feels abrasive to the general flow of the WWE 50/50 world. I was listening to SCG yesterday and Karl was talking about how WCW never won a night in England on a Friday (this was a mailbag show -- #50, I think). That got me thinking about just how many WCW fans wrestling lost when they went under.

I'm sure a lot just made the jump, and I'm not the first to muse on the WCW fan never being won back, but I dunno -- I've never really thought about how much brand loyalty would have been there for WCW, and how many people may have just refused to watch WWF because it wasn't their team. I don't know if Sting would have brought any of them back (and how he was booked certainly wouldn't have kept them), but Goldberg might be their best shot at stabbing into the darkness for that lost fan -- even if it is just one month's subscription to the WWE Network and they all get it for free.
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They could, but this is the crowd that cheered Hogan over Rock at WMX8. Ask Shisen, he was there you know.

The crowd will be...hot. And they might be completely into Goldberg in a weird sort of way. An actual star being there ready to kick ass. It might get them invested and they might decide to take ownership of it.

There's almost a pre-smarky love for Goldberg that I think even your educated fan still holds. He represents something lost in the business today. It is possible that they will just see "shit wrestler; ended Bret Hart's career; massive payday" but they might also see the better part of Goldberg, especially if they go into the match with buddies that are more interesting in wrestling because he's back and the general feeling is good.
Still a smarky crowd. You can't compare Hogan and Rock to the dude who used drugs to win a UFC fight and gave Orton a legit concussion Vs. an old man flash in the pan who hasn't wrestled for 10 years.

Crowd shitting on it likely would be the only entertainment.
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That was wrestlemania. Half the crowd wasn't even from Toronto. And Goldberg may have had a hot run, but he's no Hulk Hogan.
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Still a smarky crowd. You can't compare Hogan and Rock to the dude who used drugs to win a UFC fight and gave Orton a legit concussion Vs. an old man flash in the pan who hasn't wrestled for 10 years.

Crowd shitting on it likely would be the only entertainment.
Yeah, and they could very well shit on it, but they could also do the opposite of what people expect, because they don't play by the same rules as the internet expects. They're the trend-setters, not the followers.

I guarantee they are going to be hot for Brock and Heyman. I can see them shitting on Goldberg, but I think there's something there that's going to get them pumped. I think the crowd will "know" they can make Goldberg or break him, in some sense, and I think it's reducing them to your usual smark crowd to button them into "Oh, Goldberg's old and not a technical guy -- they'll boo him."

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That was wrestlemania. Half the crowd wasn't even from Toronto. And Goldberg may have had a hot run, but he's no Hulk Hogan.
I'd say history has been somewhat kinder to Goldberg than Hogan, to be honest. I think there is a call for something that Goldberg has.
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Actually, remembering the Bret Hart factor, the Canada crowd is going to shit all over Goldberg.
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They might cheer due to "nostalgia".......

Toronto pooped all over Goldberg when he was there for a WCW PPV, but that was already "past his peak popularity", and at the "max" of WWF popularity..... I remember everyone was chanting "Rocky" and "Goldberg Sucks".............
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I'd say history has been somewhat kinder to Goldberg than Hogan, to be honest. I think there is a call for something that Goldberg has.
Yeah. Now.

But back then, Hogan was the face of an entire generation's childhood, and the waves of emotion that came over that arena will never be replicated, certainly not by Goldberg.

I don't think you understand the gravity of what happened there. I mean there were people crying all around me ffs. I'm not going to comment on it any further because frankly, if you weren't there, you can't fully grasp what it was like, and how ridiculous goldberg vs lesnar garnering the same reation actually sounds.
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They might cheer due to "nostalgia".......

Toronto pooped all over Goldberg when he was there for a WCW PPV, but that was already "past his peak popularity", and at the "max" of WWF popularity..... I remember everyone was chanting "Rocky" and "Goldberg Sucks".............
Yeah, things definitely do change based on context. Goldberg in WCW is different from Goldberg in WWE, and it's not just an age thing.
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Yeah. Now.

But back then, Hogan was the face of an entire generation's childhood, and the waves of emotion that came over that arena will never be replicated, certainly not by Goldberg.

I don't think you understand the gravity of what happened there. I mean there were people crying all around me ffs. I'm not going to comment on it any further because frankly, if you weren't there, you can't fully grasp what it was like, and how ridiculous goldberg vs lesnar garnering the same reation actually sounds.
I'm sorry if it sounded like I was saying that they were going to be the very same sort of reaction -- I just meant that Toronto doesn't necessarily behave like you would expect a "smark town" to all the time. They've booed Edge.

You make Toronto sound like a bunch of pussies, by the way. (/Heel Noid)
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Hyped for a Goldberg return. Cool to pretend he didn't have short, exciting matches, cool to ignore great ones against Steiner, Hall, DDP and others. But whatever man, it would be exciting.
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Never been a Goldberg fan and certainly have no interest in him returning at 50 after several years not being active.
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I don't think he's coming back for the internet smart mark, to be fair. I think he's coming back for casual audiences.
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