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View Poll Results: Who is the better wrestler?
"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels 20 46.51%
Bret "The Hitman" Hart 23 53.49%
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Old 01-01-2017, 07:22 PM   #1
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I don't think Destor's point is relevant, except to say that if Bret hadn't been concussed and made a big return to the WWE, he'd have been treated like a god and everyone would bend over praising him like they do Shawn. They don't make them like they used to, even when it comes to alleged "bores" like Bret. I mean, look at Goldberg this year. Tore the place down because he's from that era and knows how to be a man. Keep in mind this is not a guy that was known for his promo ability or savvy to negotiate the business besides be clicked and pointed and look intense while doing it.

You can't really know the minds of others in this voting process, so if people want to imagine HBK's greatest success as being relative to having a longer career in a shittier era of wrestling where he was basically fellated as being God incarnate, with the last remaining wrestling fans at the time being people who grew up with HBK, thus have a sentimental and confirming bias that whatever he does is going to be rated quite highly, it makes sense that this is a little closer.

I hope that makes sense. Kind of a stream of consciousness from me.
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:51 PM   #2
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Well it wasnt my point really. I was building off #1fans opinion.

He stated that draw power should be subjective to what if variants. Which should extend to others aspects as well. He made an argument a few rounds back that he would look at these more in a if wrestler A was in another other postition in any other era would he still have sucess.

It was more of a devils advocate post than my opinion.

And i should say its a perfectly valid method.

Im more practical personally.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:58 AM   #3
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Using my theoretical for Bret's sake, imagine a healthy Bret in Shawn's position for WrestleMania 23-26. Can you imagine him challenging Cena for the title and it being as big of a match? Can you imagine the same emotion coming from him retiring Flair? Can you imagine the crowd going nuts and Jim Ross having an "out of body experience" during his match with Taker and it being so good that it closes out the end of the show the next year as Bret's retirement match?

All those situations just seem like they'd be less "major" with Bret in Shawn's shoes. The matches could be close from a purely technical standpoint (though I don't think Bret had the same ability to pull a great match out of ANYONE that Shawn did) but the emotional investment would take a dip because Bret wasn't the same performer. Shawn's ability to get people emotionally invested was off the charts.
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Using my theoretical for Bret's sake, imagine a healthy Bret in Shawn's position for WrestleMania 23-26. Can you imagine him challenging Cena for the title and it being as big of a match? Can you imagine the same emotion coming from him retiring Flair? Can you imagine the crowd going nuts and Jim Ross having an "out of body experience" during his match with Taker and it being so good that it closes out the end of the show the next year as Bret's retirement match?

All those situations just seem like they'd be less "major" with Bret in Shawn's shoes. The matches could be close from a purely technical standpoint (though I don't think Bret had the same ability to pull a great match out of ANYONE that Shawn did) but the emotional investment would take a dip because Bret wasn't the same performer. Shawn's ability to get people emotionally invested was off the charts.
This is an irrelevant point. It never happened so you can't really make these assumptions. They are utterly baseless.
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Using my theoretical for Bret's sake, imagine a healthy Bret in Shawn's position for WrestleMania 23-26. Can you imagine him challenging Cena for the title and it being as big of a match? Can you imagine the same emotion coming from him retiring Flair? Can you imagine the crowd going nuts and Jim Ross having an "out of body experience" during his match with Taker and it being so good that it closes out the end of the show the next year as Bret's retirement match?

All those situations just seem like they'd be less "major" with Bret in Shawn's shoes. The matches could be close from a purely technical standpoint (though I don't think Bret had the same ability to pull a great match out of ANYONE that Shawn did) but the emotional investment would take a dip because Bret wasn't the same performer. Shawn's ability to get people emotionally invested was off the charts.
Seriously. The fact that you could read this post and respond with "HE'S TRYING TO TELL EVERYONE THEY'RE WRONG" makes it seem like you're trying to turn every little thing into a fight. It's been a running theme lately.

Either that or you should be getting pissed at every post you read here because that post was about as innocuous as it gets. I even made it a point to add "It seems" and "I think/don't think"s for people like you and it STILL sent you over the edge. My God. lol
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:42 PM   #6
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What is happening here?
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:51 PM   #7
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Hart has Michaels in the sharp shooter and he it looks like he might tap
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:09 PM   #8
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Oh okay, point taken.
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:23 PM   #9
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Was not expecting this to be so close. Maybe I should have put more thought into my vote.
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Battle of the egos here but I had to go with Bret if for no other reason than he did less damage to the locker room.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:17 PM   #11
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Bret just for the simple reason that he was my fav as a kid.
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oh my god Fan.

Just because you didn't like Bret as much as Shawn doesn't mean you are right lol.

Some people, (right now 20 out of 38 in this thread) prefer Bret over Shawn. It's not taking anything away from Shawn, it's just that they prefer Bret. They don't need to justify it to you.

They were both really great at different things. Brits and Canadians tend to lean towards the fact that Bret was our working class hero who we could relate to. A realistic guy in a cartoon world and a courageous champion. It felt real with Bret.

Americans tend to like Michaels grandios showmanship and his over the top antics. He also brought his own sense of realism but he certainly didn't fit under the category of working class hero. Shawn was an obnoxious twat, even when he was a nicer guy in his 2nd run.

They were both great, liking one over the other shouldn't lead to such a massive debate because when they were together, they were universally 1 and 1a.
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... Are you fucking serious right now? lol
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oh my god Fan.

Just because you didn't like Bret as much as Shawn doesn't mean you are right lol.
This is becoming a running theme lately. Someone simply stating their case in a discussion and someone else coming in like "STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE WRONG!"

lolwhat
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This is becoming a running theme lately. Someone simply stating their case in a discussion and someone else coming in like "STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE WRONG!"

lolwhat
Except when someone states their case to the opposite it doesn't matter or just flat out wrong
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It's more like the "I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS EVEN CLOSE" like dude, honestly are you serious? It's very dismissive.

You may not intend it that way, but it's like "why am I going to talk to this dude if his immediate stance is to completely dismiss my opinion". You obviously have your mind made up, what's the use in trying to have a proper discussion?
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You may not intend it that way, but it's like "why am I going to talk to this dude if his immediate stance is to completely dismiss my opinion". You obviously have your mind made up, what's the use in trying to have a proper discussion?
... You should read this quote and go back and read that CyNick argument in the Sheetz thread. lol
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It's more like the "I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS EVEN CLOSE" like dude, honestly are you serious? It's very dismissive.

You may not intend it that way, but it's like "why am I going to talk to this dude if his immediate stance is to completely dismiss my opinion". You obviously have your mind made up, what's the use in trying to have a proper discussion?
People have said that same quote since the beginning of the first Better Wrestler polls Destor put up. Or they said they can't believe it's such a blowout. Hell, people said that about Mick vetted wiped off the floor. At least Fan is posting his reasons and is open to debate.

But let's all post 1 way to be politically correct/nice to each other. Sounds fun.
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People have said that same quote since the beginning of the first Better Wrestler polls Destor put up. Or they said they can't believe it's such a blowout. Hell, people said that about Mick vetted wiped off the floor. At least Fan is posting his reasons and is open to debate.

But let's all post 1 way to be politically correct/nice to each other. Sounds fun.
Exactly. You might as well just leave and not discuss any differing opinion here if THAT post was too combative for you. Because you're gonna be pissed 24/7.

Definitely don't come to the Best Wrestler threads because you're gonna be thinking "OMG STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE WRONG!" during every thread. lol
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and then in response to what I say, you dismiss my viewpoint as though you think I'm a complete idiot.

"lolwhat" just implies you think I'm retarded. It's fine if you want to be "like that" but don't expect people to want to engage with you.
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and then in response to what I say, you dismiss my viewpoint as though you think I'm a complete idiot.

"lolwhat" just implies you think I'm retarded. It's fine if you want to be "like that" but don't expect people to want to engage with you.
No, it implies that what you SAID was retarded. Not a knock on you as a whole. "It never happened so you can't make those assumptions" is a response we can actually discuss.

"OMG stop thinking you're right!" as a response is silly however and now any discussion is impeded because we have to discuss this stupid shit. lol
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All I'm saying is bring the enthusiasm of debating, dial down the attitude.
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:40 AM   #24
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CyNick is just a cheeky bugger. You act as though someone stabbed your mother for not holding your viewpoint.
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it's whatever dude. do what you have to do. I'm just telling you how I feel you're coming off.
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For the record though, I know for a fact Shawn is better than Bret and you're definitely wrong for thinking otherwise.
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For the record though, I know for a fact Shawn is better than Bret and you're definitely wrong for thinking otherwise.
He's just asking you and Noid to stop saying things like this so people can have an actual conversation, why do you guys have to be like this?
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He's just asking you and Noid to stop saying things like this so people can have an actual conversation, why do you guys have to be like this?
Did you really take that seriously?
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:32 AM   #29
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Wow.


This is a hard one. Both men are tremendous wrestlers in all categories (ring work, mic work, storylines, tag or single etc) so there is no doubt that they can match one another in any category you want to judge them at.


Ive always been a huge Bret Hart fan as a kid, but I also loved Shawn Michaels' DX and beyond run. Was never, personally, a big fan of The Rockers, and always had a soft spot for Janetty.


Even as a huge Bret fan, I think the Montreal Screwjob was one of the stupidest controversies in wrestling history. There is no reason why Bret should've been so concerned/angry about the result of a wrestling match which everyone knows is pre-determined and the company owes the right to decide how it goes. Plus, it was no secret that Bret was going to WcW and we didn't want anymore WWE titles getting acquinted with the trash can, so I always thought Bret was in the wrong on the "screwjob" and that there was no screwjob to begin with. I'd understand if it was a MMA match and a fighter was called to have tapped when they didn't, because that's real - but getting angry and holding a decade long grudge over that is just silly.


Shawn did amazing work after his return from injury, and matches like his retirement of Flair certainly showed him to be deserving of all the praise he's ever got. Meanwhile, Bret didn't get a chance to have those kinds of matches because of an unfortunate injury, and I firmly believe if it wasn't for that accident (I don't blame Goldberg for it even though I'm not a fan of his), that Bret would've given us so much more.


Despite all of this, I couldn't bring myself to vote for Shawn. Maybe it's a bit of personal preference or childhood nostalgia, but just by a grain, my scale tilted towards The Hitman.


I just wish he had given us more.
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Kinda surprised Bret is winning this late considering Shawn usually runs away with these contests.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:59 AM   #31
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Dunno why Dale is being a SJW against debate right now. The point of these threads is for people to hash it out. Thats why i do them.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:05 PM   #33
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I love hashing it out but it's a bit ludicrous is all.
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like... the Bret vs Shawn debate could easily go either way. I'm Bret all the way but I'm not going to sit there and tell someone they are wrong for saying Shawn.

He's Shawn fucking Michaels. And he's Bret fucking Hart.
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Dale... post #59...
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Also, if I remember correctly, I helped someone make their decision a couple Best Wrestlers ago. May have even been Destor. So I will continue.
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Also, if I remember correctly, I helped someone make their decision a couple Best Wrestlers ago. May have even been Destor. So I will continue.


Its true
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Dale got sand in his vagina.
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Seems like the only time Dale post in the Wrestling Forum is to complain about another poster.
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Fully expect Shawn to comeback like Kurt did on Dusty.
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