Tell me a wrestler who deserves a push....

[big_bluto]

Some of these are getting tough because I'm having to really be negative about wrestlers that I really like!

Anyway, I'll keep going.

[Joe Kerr]

B.I.G....to the Beeeeeeeeee



Edge my man needs to get out of mid card hell

also Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Matt Hardy and Charlie Haas

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man Christian Randy Orton (not that I think he deserves it, but he's getting one anyway) Shelton Benjamin

Nowhere Man - did you edit?

Anyway,

Christian - this guy has been pushed but hasn't come up with anything outstanding since he was part of E & C. In fact the last great match I saw him in was TLC4, with 7 other wrestlers. Christian has a great work-rate, some good moves, and basically he has all the right ingredients, but he's been pushed for ages, and is getting nowhere. I say give him a regular mid-card slot, or get him back into a tag team where he works best. Had enough push as a singles wrestler already.

Shelton benjamin - again, this guy has all the ingredients, but hasn't had long enough to cook. Needs more tag matches, lower level singles matches, and time to develop experience. Right now he's getting pushed down out throats, in a kind of 'token-black-guy' way, incase Vince doesn't want the equal opps people on his case. He's got a future, but shouldn't be pushed for a couple of years yet.

[Nowhere Man]

He already mentioned Rey.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Joey Radd B.I.G....to the Beeeeeeeeee Edge my man needs to get out of mid card hell also Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Matt Hardy and Charlie Haas

By B.I.G. do you mean Big Show?
I'll assume so:

Big Show - has had main event spots, titles, and has been murdered as a comedy giant on the show. He has had knee operations, and given his size and lifestyle, he can't have a huge life expectancy. He's fairly talented and I'm actually a fan, but on Smackdown he's pretty much main event level already. He should be used to help other peoples pushes, and not be pushed any further on his own, as he doesn't need it, and there's nowhere for him to go, as he's basically been beaten by everyone.

Mysterio - been done.

Billy Kidman - he's had some outstanding matches, but he's stuck in the cruiserweight rut. He should only be used to put other cruiserweights over, but by showing the skills they have. He had an excellent match against Jamie Noble at SS02, but that's as far as he should go. He's had his day, and if the rumours are true about Torrie's head being as inflated as her chest, then she'll get the bullet, and he'll go too.


Matt Hardy - Matt hardy (please read my post about 'Where's the mattitude' to see what I really think about Matt Hardy) Anyway Matt Hardy has been destroyed since he came back to RAW. He's been jobbed to everyone at mid-card level and lower, and now looks like one of the worst wrestlers on RAW. his V1 gimmick is dead, and now Kane has done his bird, and he's all weepy. Matt hardy's day's are gone, unless jeff comes back and Team Extreme reforms, and that's not gonna happen.

Charlie Haas - Basically the same as Shelton Benjamin. The All-American who didn't wrestle. Guy's got the ingredients, the potential, but needs time to mature into a good wrestler. Keen as hell right now, but needs at least 2 years before a serious push should come his way.

[Joe Kerr]

You forgot Edge i dont blame you though seeing how there is no negativity for edge

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Joey Radd You forgot Edge i dont blame you though seeing how there is no negativity for edge

Au Contraire.....

Edge - He had a broken neck, which nowadays means a main event push.
He was writing internet columns when he was off, and also has a book due to be published any time now. He has had basically a year to build a fanbase back up and make his return legendary, his return promo debuted at WM20, the fans looked totally psyched, and he returned. blah, blah, blah. What has he done since his return? Jobbed to Orton a couple of times, held tag titles with the WWE champ?
Edge has blown the momentum he had, he also needs an image change, a heel turn, and a change of music, and above all, he needs to return to Smackdown. What he doesn't need on RAW is a push that will go nowhere.

[jmanlasman]

ok, so ive heard u rant on about why all these guys shouldnt get pushes... so who do YOU think should get a push

ooooooooooooooooo

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by jmanlasman ok, so ive heard u rant on about why all these guys shouldnt get pushes... so who do YOU think should get a push

I actually thinkn quite a few of these guys should get pushes.
All I'm doing here is giving some people some entertainment, and giving myself a bit of a challenge as to how I can justify non-pushing anyone in the WWE.

I personally am a huge fan of RVD, Matt Hardy, & Jamie Noble.

But then it's all fun.........

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by God Bless America ooooooooooooooooo

Was that meant in a 'Saucer of milk, table two' fashion?

sure whatever you say man, but let me tell you this, kane SHOULD get a push i mean come one kane has like gone on top for like overnight like 1 time

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by God Bless America sure whatever you say man, but let me tell you this, kane SHOULD get a push i mean come one kane has like gone on top for like overnight like 1 time

Any chance you can throw me a bone with that frickin sentence please?
Please insert some punctuation, like, because I'm having like real difficulty in figuring out like, exactly, like, what you're saying/asking?

ok, kane has won the champ. like 2 times right? or something all i want to see is for him to win tonight, and maybe he'll stay champ a couple months then lose it and that'll be his "big "push" "

[Ferocious]

Since Dave Youell isn't getting a push, Can Ian and King Jericho have one?.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Ferocious Since Dave Youell isn't getting a push, Can Ian and King Jericho have one?.

I would say no on general principle, however in fairness to them I haven't ever seen them wrestle.
King Jericho I rate quite highly as a poster, however Ian has only posted once in any discussion we've have and I quote:

Originally Posted by Ian You are a cunt

Ian is in no way deserving of a push.

However, the hard and fast point of this entire thread is that I still must spread some rep around before making Ferocios Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikkk!!!!!!!!

[Mayo]

I think that big_bluto needs to feud with the rest of his heel stable, a new leader steps up to kick him out, and he gets a huge face push to move up the TPWW forums.

big_bluto is the man

[Ferocious]

I'm scared that Mayo has inside info

[Dorkchop]

* Regal
* Haas

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Mayo I think that big_bluto needs to feud with the rest of his heel stable, a new leader steps up to kick him out, and he gets a huge face push to move up the TPWW forums. big_bluto is the man

My thanks go out to Mayo, however I have some way to go prior to becoming 'da man', as I only reached the exalted ranks of 'brilliant' about 2 hours ago.!



Ferocious, fret ye not, my good fellow......
Under-rated I am, under-rated I shall remain.
(for the time being)

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Dorkchop * Regal * Haas

Regal - William Regal has been out injured for quite a while now, and people have probably forgotten that the only reason he had a contract is so that there is someone british on the books, so that the WWE can feel good about extracting loads of money from us UK folks across the pond. While he is good on the mic, his physique is rotten, he's getting on a bit, and he's never been that great at having matches that were anything other than mediocre. This guy should stick to what he's good at which is manager/commissioner, and only go into the ring when absolutely neccessary. Push him? Shit no!

Haas - been done.

[Joe Kerr]

a wrestler who deserves a push is A -train....right in font of a train

[Ferocious]

HBK

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by God Bless America ok, kane has won the champ. like 2 times right? or something all i want to see is for him to win tonight, and maybe he'll stay champ a couple months then lose it and that'll be his "big "push" "

Can't, shouldn't and probably will happen.
However they need to give him something to do until Matt Hardy becomes credible enough to destroy him.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Joey Radd a wrestler who deserves a push is A -train....right in font of a train

A-Train - Big hairy hoss, who can move suprisingly quick for such a large chap, and he has a fair few moves in his repertoire. What lets him down in such a big way is his vocabulary ( currently standing at 3 different grunts). As such he'll never be able to get any kind of storyline over, apart from mini-feuds and squash matches, and he'll forever be a sidekick. Why push a side-kick when they're obviously a side-kick for a reason. A-Train should stay at hsi current level as that is the limit of his talent.

[Mayo]

Originally Posted by Ferocious I'm scared that Mayo has inside info

Nah Ferocious, I was just complimenting bluto in a joking manner. I have no inside info, and no beef with you, since I think that you are also a great poster. Maybe you shall become the new leader of jWo in the future???

[/stirring the pot]

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Ferocious HBK

HBK - The Has Been Kid.
He thinks he's cute, he thinks he's sexy, dimensia has set in, along with his incipient baldness, resulting in someone who isn't cute, sexy or heart-breaking in any capacity anymore. Let's just say what he is - an older guy, struggling and fighting hard to recapture the glory days of his youth. Carrying a bad back, still puts on quality matches, but it's the same shit, different century.
Michaels should be putting over other wrestlers, as he is a recognised main eventer and has been for years. He should be getting younger talent into legendary matches like the street fight he had a few years back with HHH, not getting pushed himself. Besides all that, he's getting too close to retirement now.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Mayo Nah Ferocious, I was just complimenting bluto in a joking manner. I have no inside info, and no beef with you, since I think that you are also a great poster. Maybe you shall become the new leader of jWo in the future??? [/stirring the pot]

^^^^^
Master of the spoon!

[Nark Order]

Pat Patterson

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by deadlyheaven Pat Patterson

Oooohhhhh!!!!!!! deadlyheaven pulls out a vintage!

I suppose the question I am asking is to tell me a wrestler who deserves to get pushed and I'll tell you why not..

Pat Paterson is too old now, he jobbed to Christian and got laid out with one punch at the IC Battle Royal, he hasn't wrestled competitively for many moons now, and to give him a push wouldn't be doing him any favours, because he should be enjoying his retirement from the ring, playing golf and stuff, and enjoying life. Much as I believe he would make a better champ than JBL, I don't think the fans would believe it credible.

[Ferocious]

I think Evil Doink should reappear and be pushed as a face on Smackdown.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Ferocious I think Evil Doink should reappear and be pushed as a face on Smackdown.

Evil Doink - this would be a bad idea, because there are too many pushes currently going on on Smackdown at present, and while there may be a requirement to establish anothe credible heel it might be better to turn RVD or John Cena heel in order to maintain a fanbase. While this may leave a vacacy for a face such as 'Face Evil Doink' to join the roster, it would be a case of too many, too soon, and there are only so many jobbers to go around. So no, but a not bad idea - Face Evil Doink,

[Ferocious]

What about Orlando Jordan in a TNT gimmick?

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Ferocious What about Orlando Jordan in a TNT gimmick?

What? Wrap him in dynamite and blow him up?
Didn't the Klan get into shit for stuff like that a few years back?

[big_bluto]

I'm off to bed now, because it's about 3.30am or something and I'm knackered.

If you guys come up with any more suggestions, post them on and I'll do them tomorrow.


Bluto

'Latino Heat' Eddie Guerrero

[big_bluto]

Back at it again:

Orlando Jordan - This is the guy who was trained by The Rock's father, has had matches against a few main eventers, but has almost gained permanent residence on Velocity.
He has physique, haven't seen much in the way of charisma, but I do like his strut down to the ramp. However I haven't seen anything from him that makes him worthy of a push, in comparison to the rest of the jobbers that live on Velocity, with the exception of Hardcore Holly. But then he should live on House Shows. In shitsville, nebraska.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by c4g2 'Latino Heat' Eddie Guerrero

Eddie Guerrero - this guy has talent, he has bags of charisma, a fairly limited vocabulary, and an awesome moveset, but he's been around forever. His history with the drugs and booze still lingers around, and I'm confident that no matter how hard he tried to have outstanding matches with JBL, and he totallly carried all of them, but nevertheless they gave the strap to Bradshaw, basically because they thought that Eddie wasn't bringing in enough money.
Eddie will be destroyed over this, and with Chavo Classic getting the bullet, and little Chavo losing the belt, paranoia is going to set in, and he will become very disillusioned with WWE very quickly.
As a result his performance and reliability will deteriorate rapidly, and before you know it, he'll be off Smackdown, and only appearing when they need a decent quality jobber for a match, when Bob Holly isn't available.

[Ferocious]

If I was a wrestler I'd deserve a push, I'd work hard for it.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by Ferocious If I was a wrestler I'd deserve a push, I'd work hard for it.

Ferocious - In a shock reprisal of your thread, I would have to label you as a wrestler, and I think you would be Jericho. Cocky, funny and sharp, and able to hold his own in any match, able to dazzle at times, able to make others look good, while all the time holding credibility.
You DO deserve a push, and I believe you have been getting one as a poster of some repute.