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Old 11-14-2005, 11:08 AM   #41
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Even if it has great ring psychology? Even if the match tells a story? Even if there were loads of back and forth action and near falls and the fans were at the edge of their seat?

Just because it's a "deathmatch" doesn't mean brawl brawl SPOT brawl SPOT brawl brawl SICK SPOT pin.
"Psychology" and "Deathmatch" shouldn't be in the same sentence together. All deathmatches are clusterfucks.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:11 AM   #42
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"Psychology" and "Deathmatch" shouldn't be in the same sentence together. All deathmatches are clusterfucks.
Yeah, judge all deathmatches on the 20 second clip you've seen.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:19 AM   #43
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Yeah, judge all deathmatches on the 20 second clip you've seen.
Yeah, assume that only people who get hardons from them have actually watched any.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:21 AM   #44
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Yeah, judge all deathmatches on the 20 second clip you've seen.
3 or 4 'matches', buddy. Including Funk/Foley, which is a clusterfuck and stupid as hell.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:30 AM   #45
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3 or 4 'matches', buddy. Including Funk/Foley, which is a clusterfuck and stupid as hell.
Yeah, shows what you know. You think 20 seconds makes you an expert.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:34 AM   #46
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3 or 4 'matches', buddy. Including Funk/Foley, which is a clusterfuck and stupid as hell.
How would you feel if someone saw 4 John Cena matches and judged every WWE match?
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:38 AM   #47
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How would you feel if someone saw 4 John Cena matches and judged every WWE match?
That was funny. Except we're discussed DEATHMATCHES, not every CZW match here.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:39 AM   #48
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How would you feel if someone saw 4 John Cena matches and judged every WWE match?
That's an entirely different situation. I've seen death matches with DIFFERENT people. Now, if you had said "how would you feel if someone saw 4 submission/cage/etc matches and judged every WWE match", your question would be valid.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:40 AM   #49
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By the way, isn't this funny?

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Yes, I like to watch the odd deathmatch but I don't consider it wrestling. When I'm in the mood to watch a wrestling match I'm not going to watch Nick Mondo vs. Zandig, I'll watch that when I'm in the mood to see something brutal totally outside of wrestling.
The guy defends it when we call it "garbage wrestling" and saying that wrestling shouldn't include this, but he says this about them?
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:45 AM   #50
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All i know is, i cannot see how ANYONE would agree to a deathmatch. Especially if they ask you to get sliced open like that. And somehow i dont think CZW really has that good a medical benefit. Honestly, i agree with Xero and KK, the only reason i feel anyone would be in a deathmatch is because they really cant get over with real wrestling, so its like 'hey, maybe if i take these insane bumps and mutilate myself, they'll consider me a WRESTLING...GOD!'. Well, to you my good friend, i will say this.....BANANNA SANDWICH! Im sure my thumb is 10x more a wrestler than any of those CZW deathmatch guys. Oh, and im sure me and my friends thumb wrestling wars have more techincal spots in it than you can shake your floresent light tube at.
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:47 AM   #51
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The guy defends it when we call it "garbage wrestling" and saying that wrestling shouldn't include this, but he says this about them?
Seeing as you've been looking for attention the whole thread as I haven't actually asked you anything but you keep intending on replying, I will finally reply to something you said.

Deathmatches have elements of wrestling but I wouldn't consider them "wrestling matches". When I WANT to see wrestling I don't watch a deathmatch.
However deathmatches can tell a story just as well as a wrestling match. It's hard to compare. Deathmatches offer something different but when they are done well I think they can be very appealing to the wrestling fan.
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'hey, maybe if i take these insane bumps and mutilate myself, they'll consider me a WRESTLING...GOD!'.

What about Foley? "FOLEY IS GOD"
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:53 AM   #53
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Seeing as you've been looking for attention the whole thread as I haven't actually asked you anything but you keep intending on replying, I will finally reply to something you said.
I'm sorry, when did this become a forum where we only reply if Sadistic asks us a question?

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Deathmatches have elements of wrestling but I wouldn't consider them "wrestling matches". When I WANT to see wrestling I don't watch a deathmatch.
And yet, when this behaviour was called "Garbage wrestling," You defended it as legit and so on. So now you're contradicting yourself.

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However deathmatches can tell a story just as well as a wrestling match. It's hard to compare. Deathmatches offer something different but when they are done well I think they can be very appealing to the wrestling fan.
Snuff flicks offer something different but when they are done I think they can be very appealing ...

Same deal.

If they're telling a good story, they don't need to be in a deathmatch, so that justification is totally shit.

But thanks for trying.
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aw, snap. Oh and your right Sadistic...but Foley is exempt!
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:02 PM   #55
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'hey, maybe if i take these insane bumps and mutilate myself, they'll consider me a WRESTLING...GOD!'.

What about Foley? "FOLEY IS GOD"
And "Foley is God" started long after the exploding barbed wire and deathmatches.

I'm sensing a pattern here. Maybe you don't need to lose an ear to become one of the most over wrestlers in pop culture.
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