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Old 06-25-2006, 10:31 PM   #41
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I have seen his ROH and TNA stuff. I have yet to see what makes his so fucking great. He is a fat Taz wannabe.
Explain? Besides the fact that they have submission finishers, and are trained in Judo? Joe is way more agile that Taz, and his moveset is pretty much totally different.
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Old 06-25-2006, 10:59 PM   #42
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His gimmick is that he is a legit badass who doesn't really talk and will "kill you". Sound familiar?

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Old 06-25-2006, 11:07 PM   #43
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Yeah people having similar gimmicks never happens in wrestling.
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:10 PM   #44
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His gimmick is that he is a legit badass who doesn't really talk and will "kill you". Sound familiar?
Legit badass who doesn't really talk? Hmmmmm

You just described a decent amount of wrestlers.

BTW, wouldn't that be the bookers doing anyways, and not the wrestlers?
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:11 PM   #45
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BTW, I'm not saying you have to like the guy. I'm just saying if you don't like the guy, at least have a decent reason. Hell, just saying "I don't like the guy" is fine with me. But justifying it with something like "he's a Taz ripoff" just makes no sense and isn't really a logical reason.
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Old 06-25-2006, 11:45 PM   #46
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I dunno, I've seen Joe wrestle in TNA, he is boring as hell to watch, of course thats just IMO....
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:10 AM   #47
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BTW, I'm not saying you have to like the guy. I'm just saying if you don't like the guy, at least have a decent reason. Hell, just saying "I don't like the guy" is fine with me. But justifying it with something like "he's a Taz ripoff" just makes no sense and isn't really a logical reason.
That's not the reason I don't like him. That was just an opinionated observation.
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:03 AM   #48
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ROFLLLLLLLL Its just pro wrestling man

We arent in 7th grade anymore

The obvious retaliation of a person without a pointed comeback.

A person who obviously posted a thread making negative remarks about a wrestler he had never looked into or even seen wrestle a match (i.e. someone of extremely high ignorance), and when replied to, can't make out a better response than a school yard taunt suggesting immaturity on my part.


"It's just pro wrestling man," said Stima, a poster at THE PEOPLE'S WRESTLING WEBSITE Forums with approximately 26,000 posts. If you're going to post a thread like this one, blatantly jabbing a very popular wrestler whom you have never even seen wrestle a match, you should expect some sort of a reply in return. Jackass.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:58 AM   #49
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It should have been six.
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LMAO, he's a fat pudge. At least I'VE watched TNA, and let me tell you... he's no big deal.
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Old 06-26-2006, 12:56 PM   #51
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A fat pudge who can bust out a tope, hurricurranna, and a nice looking step up enziguri if need be. I also love the emulation of Japanese stars.
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To be honest, who cares how fat he is, he's a fantastic wrestler. If you want guys with oily muscles putting on terrible matches go and pick up the much in-demand Best of Gene Snitsky DVD.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:18 PM   #53
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LMAO. Seriously, Snitsky did an autograph signing for WXW and they were actually selling Best of Snitsky DVDs.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:42 PM   #55
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A fat pudge who can bust out a tope, hurricurranna, and a nice looking step up enziguri if need be. I also love the emulation of Japanese stars.
How many of these does he do in TNA again?
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How many of these does he do in TNA again?
I believe he's done 2 of the 3 mentioned.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:51 PM   #58
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I haven't seen enough TNA to catch Joe doing a hurricanrana, but when I picture it in my head, it's like seeing The Big Show do a shooting star press.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:55 PM   #59
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How many of these does he do in TNA again?
Don't watch TNA, but I know he's done them in ROH and Japan. It's not the prettiest in the world, but it doesn't look bad. I know there's a fan video on You Tube that has it (Not one of the TNA specific ones though.)
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:36 PM   #60
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Don't watch TNA, but I know he's done them in ROH and Japan. It's not the prettiest in the world, but it doesn't look bad. I know there's a fan video on You Tube that has it (Not one of the TNA specific ones though.)
Wow. He's done it in Japan. And that means what, exactly?
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:46 PM   #61
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Wow. He's done it in Japan. And that means what, exactly?
? It means he's done a hurricaranna? What's it suppose to mean? I'm not arguing that TNA is good, I'm arguing that Samoa Joe is good. The fact that he did a move in Japan or ROH that he didn't do in TNA does not negate the fact that he's a good wrestler.
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? It means he's done a hurricaranna? What's it suppose to mean? I'm not arguing that TNA is good, I'm arguing that Samoa Joe is good. The fact that he did a move in Japan or ROH that he didn't do in TNA does not negate the fact that he's a good wrestler.
TNA the problem is, it doesn't matter what he's done in Japan.

It only matters what he's doing now, and nobody should have to look at Japan or OVW to make a wrestler look good.
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TNA the problem is, it doesn't matter what he's done in Japan.

It only matters what he's doing now, and nobody should have to look at Japan or OVW to make a wrestler look good.
but he's still doing it, not just in TNA.
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TNA the problem is, it doesn't matter what he's done in Japan.

It only matters what he's doing now, and nobody should have to look at Japan or OVW to make a wrestler look good.
Don't forget ROH

So let me get this straight though. Because he apparently has to wrestle a certain kind of way for TNA, that's his fault? Obviously he has to wrestle in a set time frame/style that TNA wants. If they want him to destroy and squash, he does that. ROH and Japan give him more freedom. That's not Joe's fault, now is it?

People don't blame Jericho/Benoit/RVD/ etc for being limited in the WWE, they blame the WWE. So why should we blame Joe if he's limited in TNA?
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Don't forget ROH

So let me get this straight though. Because he apparently has to wrestle a certain kind of way for TNA, that's his fault? Obviously he has to wrestle in a set time frame/style that TNA wants. If they want him to destroy and squash, he does that. ROH and Japan give him more freedom. That's not Joe's fault, now is it?

People don't blame Jericho/Benoit/RVD/ etc for being limited in the WWE, they blame the WWE. So why should we blame Joe if he's limited in TNA?
I don't have to forget RoH. Indies don't matter either, for the same reason.

I also didn't blame Joe. I've commented that he looks like a fat sloppy fuck with a moveset of nearly nil, but I didn't say "and it's all his fault because he wants to wrestle that way."

On the other hand, TNA doesn't have the same track record for limiting movesets that WWE does. I'm not saying we should blame him, just pointing it out.

Also, Jericho, RVD, Benoit? All went from demonstrative talent on TV for the mainstream fan (RVD's a harder sell here, but he was still on TV) and visibly stepped down (And sadly, 2/3 of that list were still brilliant for quite a bit) on TV pretty much immediately after.

I don't think that compares to Joe. Anyone who wanted to know about Jericho had immediate access, and most WWF fans were WCW fans or at least familliar with the programming.

The point being, the average fan won't know any better.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:54 PM   #69
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The obvious retaliation of a person without a pointed comeback.

A person who obviously posted a thread making negative remarks about a wrestler he had never looked into or even seen wrestle a match (i.e. someone of extremely high ignorance), and when replied to, can't make out a better response than a school yard taunt suggesting immaturity on my part.


"It's just pro wrestling man," said Stima, a poster at THE PEOPLE'S WRESTLING WEBSITE Forums with approximately 26,000 posts. If you're going to post a thread like this one, blatantly jabbing a very popular wrestler whom you have never even seen wrestle a match, you should expect some sort of a reply in return. Jackass.
Sorry I signed up when wrestling was actaully good (Dunno if it was actully good or I just thought it was good because I was in middle school) and I stuck around for sports/casual

All I said was he looks like a fat fuck, which is true. He maybe the greatest wrestler of all time (which I doubt he is) but I dunno how a fat Goldberg gimmick rip off is suppose to be like the "next big thing"

Once again, this isn't 7th grade - you could have just replied like a lot of other people and said "Nah Joe is the shit"
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Old 06-28-2006, 12:02 AM   #70
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I can sum it up like this.

One of my buddies isn't a wrestling fan.

HE likes Samoa Joe.
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Old 06-28-2006, 01:17 AM   #71
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Sorry I signed up when wrestling was actaully good (Dunno if it was actully good or I just thought it was good because I was in middle school) and I stuck around for sports/casual

All I said was he looks like a fat fuck, which is true. He maybe the greatest wrestler of all time (which I doubt he is) but I dunno how a fat Goldberg gimmick rip off is suppose to be like the "next big thing"

Once again, this isn't 7th grade - you could have just replied like a lot of other people and said "Nah Joe is the shit"

See, there you go again with the "7th grade" comments. What part of my original post in any way depicts something a 7th grader would write? In my opinion, a comment along the lines of "Nah, Joe is the shit," is much more symbolic of a 7th grade mentality, as opposed to a well thought out argument against your idiotic post.

I've never heard anyone call Samoa Joe the "next big thing." He is, however, a very good wrestler, and much more than just a "fat fuck" or a "Goldberg rip-off." But you wouldn't know, because you've never watched a Samoa Joe match or been entwined in a Samoe Joe feud.
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Old 06-28-2006, 02:03 AM   #72
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See, there you go again with the "7th grade" comments. What part of my original post in any way depicts something a 7th grader would write? In my opinion, a comment along the lines of "Nah, Joe is the shit," is much more symbolic of a 7th grade mentality, as opposed to a well thought out argument against your idiotic post.

I've never heard anyone call Samoa Joe the "next big thing." He is, however, a very good wrestler, and much more than just a "fat fuck" or a "Goldberg rip-off." But you wouldn't know, because you've never watched a Samoa Joe match or been entwined in a Samoe Joe feud.
I gathered my thoughts from what I've read here on good ol' TPDUB and I've seen his gimmick compaired a lot to Goldbergs and plenty of people have called him the next big TNA superstar etc

You are right though, I am ignorant about Samoa Joes in ring abililty (That is correct, believe this post started out with "I've never seen him wrestle")

But my original point still stands, I don't see how a fat dude (not even the good "fat" either, just looks like he hasn't hit a gym in years) is suppose to be the next big thing. Image is usually pretty huge when it comes to pro westling - since you know, its fake.

ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT
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TNA Joe sucks. He's not worth watching because he's like any other big fat guy on TV. God, some of you fucks would mark out for Rikishi if he had a winning streak.
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