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Old 01-26-2007, 04:00 PM   #1
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The UK PPVs were discontinued when they started taping Raws and SmackDowns over here a couple of times a year. Still, from a quality standpoint, all but two of them (One Night Only 1997 and Rebellion 1999) were dismal failures.

RE: my point about Vince and Trump. Vince spunked his money on failed business projects that looked like guaranteed failures from the get go. That doesn't show much business sense.

As I understand it, Trump ended up on his arse due to his own extravagences more than anything. Bad personal choice but not reflective of him as a businessman. I might be wrong about that though. As far as I know, Trump was in a LOT more debt than Vince ever was at his lowest point, and pulled himself back up to being worth a lot more than Vince ever will be. That must make him a better businessman.

But still, meh, I ain't gonna lose sleep over it. They're both dicks.
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:28 PM   #2
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Bad personal choice but not reflective of him as a businessman. I might be wrong about that though.
When your "personal extravagance" affects corporate funds, it is indicative of him as a businessman.


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As far as I know, Trump was in a LOT more debt than Vince ever was at his lowest point, and pulled himself back up to being worth a lot more than Vince ever will be. That must make him a better businessman.
Going so broke you have to file for bankruptcy multiple times NEVER makes you the better businessman.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:32 AM   #3
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Surely the answer to "who is the better businessman" is the man who is worth more than the other. That's Trump, and that's all the more impressive considering the situation he's been in.

Take nothing away from McMahon, however. You don't get to be a billionairre if you're clueless.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:22 AM   #4
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Surely the answer to "who is the better businessman" is the man who is worth more than the other. That's Trump, and that's all the more impressive considering the situation he's been in.

Take nothing away from McMahon, however. You don't get to be a billionairre if you're clueless.
It's not more impressive, because it proves that he can't run a business longterm. Vince, while running one poorly, can.

The "better businessman" trophy has to go to Vince, simply because of the numerous times Donald has tanked. If not for Bankruptcy, which got him out of most of his depts entirely, he'd still be in "debtor's prison."

Seiously. The best player is not the one who calls "mulligan!"
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:41 AM   #5
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There is no debtor's prison.

At least Trump's bad business decisions would have benefitted his company if they weren't so overly ambitious. Vince has made some baffling decisions to say the least, that nobody in their right mind could have considered viable money makers.
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It's a turn of phrase.

Note the quotes?

Let me guess. You will next tell me there are no mulligans in the business world.
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I don't know what that means. That isn't an expression round these here parts.
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The mulligan thing, not the prison.
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"mulligan" is a term used in a couple of sports (Golf being the one I can name) and card games. It essentially means "Do Over."

And before you tell me they don't really call Mulligans in business, that's why it and "Debtor's Prison" were both in quotes.

Debtor's prison, as a business parlance, refers to vengefully (or otherwise) holding someone in so much debt that they will never be able to get out. You know, like getting out of jail. Except now you're a lifer.

I believe the military used to also use this term for severely garnishing someone's wages into civilian life.
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Yeah but debtor's prison really isn't a relevant expression in modern times. Like you said yourself, Trump declared bankruptcy. Problem solved.

Never heard the mulligan expression, must either be an American thing (even though "Mulligan" is Irish) or I just never crossed paths with it before.
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