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Old 09-04-2009, 02:18 PM   #41
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Is Starship Pain really not an original move?
It's a corkscrew split-legged moonsault. Maybe the corkscrew part makes it super new, but I"ve seen plenty "high-flyers" do the split-leg moonsaults before. And corkscrewing isn't too rare in the same crowd. Just seems kinda "meh" in terms of "new and innovative".
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:56 PM   #42
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It's a corkscrew split-legged moonsault. Maybe the corkscrew part makes it super new, but I"ve seen plenty "high-flyers" do the split-leg moonsaults before. And corkscrewing isn't too rare in the same crowd. Just seems kinda "meh" in terms of "new and innovative".

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Old 09-04-2009, 05:19 PM   #43
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But the corkscrew part is new. Just saying, I've never seen anyone but Morrison perform it with the corkscrew. Of course, AJ Styles couldn't even remember his name so I guess there's a good chance he's never even seen it.
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I would like to see AJ Styles vs. John Morrison one day. TNA needs AJ right now though, cause he is probably their best worker.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:21 PM   #45
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I would like to see AJ Styles vs. John Morrison one day. TNA needs AJ right now though, cause he is probably their best worker.
Hence why he's used to make Kevin Nash look good.



He'd be a million times better as part of the Smackdown roster.
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Hence why he's used to make Kevin Nash look good.



He'd be a million times better as part of the Smackdown roster.
I agree with you on that.
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:37 PM   #47
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Hence why he's used to make Kevin Nash look good.



He'd be a million times better as part of the Smackdown roster.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:21 PM   #48
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Actually, it was quite funny watching Disco Inferno do the Chartbuster back in 1999/2000.

Back then, Steve Austin was like the most famous person in the world, EVERYONE knew the Stone Clod Stunner, and yet there's DI trying to pull off this move and call it the Chartbuster and everyone's just like
I suppose that would be better than calling it the Ston Cold Stunner. STON COLD! STON COLD!
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:14 PM   #49
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Hogan did not do a god damn starship pain at WM 3. I want to see a video.

Oh yea, has anyone done the breakdance leg drop that JoMo does? Definitely one of my favorite moves EVER.
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:23 AM   #50
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Hogan did not do a god damn starship pain at WM 3. I want to see a video.
I think it's been edited out...
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:25 AM   #51
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Starship Pain = RVD's split-legged moonsault + Yang Time
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Old 09-05-2009, 02:33 AM   #53
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On top of that The springboard kick is something Low-ki has done for awhile. He also uses that running knee Jimmy rave does. Although i think Morrison does it much better anyways.
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Starship Pain = RVD's split-legged moonsault + Yang Time
So what though? He combined two moves. No one else ever did it. To me, that constitutes "coming up with something new."

Why does there have to be so much emphasis put into whether you can dissect the move into two other moves thus making it one unoriginal move?

It's like saying the gringo killer is just a backwards double underhook piledriver so fuck it cause it's completely unoriginal.
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I still don't get where he got Starship Pain for the name of his finishing move
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Same.

For some reason it always reminds me of that nuts Warrior interview.
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:09 AM   #57
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I sort of see what you're saying, but you must be pretty high if you think WWE would give the rub to anyone outside of their own company. It's really not that big of a deal unless AJ went out and got an actual trademark put on the maneuver...which I doubt he could really do anyway.
Yeah, I know WWE would never do it, goes without saying. But I just think it'd be the decent thing to do .
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I still don't get where he got Starship Pain for the name of his finishing move

Jefferson Starship. Furthering the 70s music motif.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:29 PM   #59
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It's a corkscrew split-legged moonsault. Maybe the corkscrew part makes it super new, but I"ve seen plenty "high-flyers" do the split-leg moonsaults before. And corkscrewing isn't too rare in the same crowd. Just seems kinda "meh" in terms of "new and innovative".
lol what in the fuck are you talking about?

Anyways these days I'd rather watch JoMo than AJ, better look, young, new and refreshing. It's hard to be innovative when everything has been done to death.
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:38 PM   #61
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I've never liked AJ.
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Same here. He has no character.
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I like how she uses the Styles Clash and everyone flips out.

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The difference being, who the fuck is that?
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Hiroyoshi Yamamoto
Ring name(s)Hiroyoshi Tenzan
Hiro Yamamoto

Billed height6 ft 0 in (1.83 m)
Billed weight254 lb (115 kg; 18.1 st)
BornMarch 23, 1971 (1971-03-23) (age 38)
Kyoto, Kyoto

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DebutJanuary 11, 1991
Hiroyoshi Yamamoto is a Japaneseprofessional wrestler who currently works for New Japan Pro Wrestling, and is better known by his ring name Hiroyoshi Tenzan.


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The difference being, who the fuck is that?
Long story short, he is/was one of the best wrestlers in the world.
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Long story short, he is/was one of the best wrestlers in the world.
I love Tenzan, I don't know about him being one of the best wrestlers in the world.
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:53 PM   #71
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Anyway, I think it has more to do with Michelle not being a likable person (and sucking in the ring) than it does with using someone elses moves. Also, I agree with those that said that you should not change the name of the move.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:06 PM   #72
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I like how she uses the Styles Clash and everyone flips out.

Now Punk is going to start using Hiroyoshi Tenzan's Anaconda Vice again and everyone is going to mark out. Yay double standards.
once again people like CM Punk and think Michelle McCool sucks/doesn't respect the business

it's not that someone is using the move it's who is using the move
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:07 AM   #74
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lol Tenzan isn't even in the top ten. I mean, he's good, but come on.
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