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Old 04-13-2004, 03:06 PM   #41
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Man you guys should watch international soccer, it's very rare that opposing fans don't boo national anthems. The English are the only people who seem to get a telling off for it, so by large English fans have stopped doing it.
You get the odd wanker but booing national anthems in football isn't a regular thing at all now. For the record, I don't recall the Scottish fans booing any national anthems... even the English one! (okay some might have there but that's more because they use the British anthem).
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Old 04-13-2004, 03:57 PM   #42
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Are you aware that most Canadian teams are small markets. Winnipeg has a population of only a couple 100,000 I believe. Plus contracts are paid in American funds and the exchange rate hasn't been too good for a while
But, if there such great support should a "small market" be a problem? I mean, a couple 100K and you can't support a team?

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Shouldn't that read:

American fans deserve a butt kicking and a lesson in respect

If you've read this threa you'd know the answer.

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the problem isn't the attendance, for the most part, it's the ability to generate money apart from gate revenue through tv, merchandising, and so forth which is something the bigger markets have less a problem with. like TIOE said when you factor in the exchange rate and increasing sallaries it becomes a problem for canaidian teams who don't own their own buildings and therefore can't generate money from parking, concessions, concerts, etc. in addittion to having to pay rent.


I understand all that, and yes, bigger markets = more money, but if a team truely has support, they'd should be able to survive, they might not make the cup finals every year, or might not even make the playoffs every year, but not everyone does.

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Name me a rink that holds 30K.

Don't be Heyman-esque.
type-o, was thinking football stadiums and really YH, you should spend your time trying to come up w/ better examples then "basketball players and quaterbacks" and less time w/ the insults...
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You get the odd wanker but booing national anthems in football isn't a regular thing at all now. For the record, I don't recall the Scottish fans booing any national anthems... even the English one! (okay some might have there but that's more because they use the British anthem).
Euro 2000 play-off at Hampden they did a pretty good job of drowning it out.
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Old 04-13-2004, 09:08 PM   #44
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VEL, you're wrong on this. Stop stuggling, you sink deeper.
 
Old 04-13-2004, 09:14 PM   #45
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VEL, you're wrong on this. Stop stuggling, you sink deeper.

I'm wrong? about what?

So, your saying it's fine to boo national anthems, that it's not a sign of disrespect... ok, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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No. You know what I'm talking about. It has nothing do do with booing. You and I have been discussing something else.
 
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Booing anthems has always been one of those hilarious things in football, that should never have been got rid of. It was always hilarious seeing one set singing their hearts out, and another booing like crazy. Doesn't happen really these days.

It's great in Ireland games, because they sing the anthem in Irish, and about half our players were brought up in England, so they don't have a clue what's going on. Then most of the Irish players can't speak the language either.

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I would have booed the US anthem if I'd been at the recent friendly in Dublin, too. Just to piss off VEL, and because I hate Americans.
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No. You know what I'm talking about. It has nothing do do with booing. You and I have been discussing something else.
I have? maybe you should try and stay on subject then, or start from the begining or something... maybe you should give your opinion on boo'ing the anthems so we know where you stand...
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I already stated that Montreal fans have booed the Canadian National Anthem before aswell. Then I responded to your remarks about fans in Canada. If I'm off topic, as you claim, it was in responce to you, in your topic. I'd say you should think before you speak.
 
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I already stated that Montreal fans have booed the Canadian National Anthem before aswell. Then I responded to your remarks about fans in Canada. If I'm off topic, as you claim, it was in responce to you, in your topic. I'd say you should think before you speak.
*yawn* Really YH, if you can't bring the "A" game, then just sit by the sidelines.

I'm still waiting in the other thread for you to explain how a QB has the same control of a game or more then a hockey goalie...
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*yawn* Really YH, if you can't bring the "A" game, then just sit by the sidelines.

I'm still waiting in the other thread for you to explain how a QB has the same control of a game or more then a hockey goalie...
Didn't you just say he's off topic?
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Euro 2000 play-off at Hampden they did a pretty good job of drowning it out.
"God Save The Queen" isn't the English national anthem hence the booing.
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*yawn* Really YH, if you can't bring the "A" game, then just sit by the sidelines.

I'm still waiting in the other thread for you to explain how a QB has the same control of a game or more then a hockey goalie...

You think a hockey goalie has more control over a game than a QB?

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You think a hockey goalie has more control over a game than a QB?

Ok, let's go through this again...

QB, has game of his life, throwing ball all over... and... WR or TE or RB's drop the ball. QB off the field.

Goalie, in goal, blocks every shot, other team doesn't score.
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The outfield players have a lot more control than goalies do. Hockey, football or freaking Handball. American Football, QB doesn't perform then the team doesn't 99 times out of 100.
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The outfield players have a lot more control than goalies do. Hockey, football or freaking Handball. American Football, QB doesn't perform then the team doesn't 99 times out of 100.
ok... we're talking outfield and football? I'm lost...

anyway, American football, the QB can be great, but he needs someone else or he can't do crap. A goalie technically doesn't need anyone, if he stops every single puck, the other team doesn't score.

In American football, many teams have started crappy qb's, or been unable to throw and a great RB and a Solid Defense can win.

A Hockey Goalie has a lot more control then a Football QB.

While I agree, a Football QB does run the offense and his play has a big effect, but you can't compare it to the one guy who can use hands, feet, stick, glove and sole responisbility is to keep the puck out of the net.
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The point people are trying to make VEL is other teams have players that can decide the outcome of a game just as much as a goalie.

You keep throwing out examples of why you claim a pitcher or QB aren't as relevant, then you go and dismiss other peoples examples in regards to goaltending.
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The point people are trying to make VEL is other teams have players that can decide the outcome of a game just as much as a goalie.

You keep throwing out examples of why you claim a pitcher or QB aren't as relevant, then you go and dismiss other peoples examples in regards to goaltending.
Actually, the point people we're trying to make here is it's ok to boo a national anthem of a country.

The point in the Raycroft thread pertains to what you mention, I'll answer this over there.

When I responded to Rob, I didn't notice which thread it was in. my bad!
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I'm hoping the Boston fans don't do that tomorrow night.

Last time it happened and Montreal boo'd, the Boston fans didn't, and they gave a big standing O after the Canadian anthem.

It's being suggested here that people turn their back. I hope not, I'd like to see the same respect given to the Canadian anthem that should have been given the US anthem.

A lot of people have been calling radio stations from Montreal or used to live in Montreal and they all say it's not Canadians, it's the "The french that want to succed from Canada". whatever, whoever, it's disrespectful.
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I'm hoping the Boston fans don't do that tomorrow night.

Last time it happened and Montreal boo'd, the Boston fans didn't, and they gave a big standing O after the Canadian anthem.

It's being suggested here that people turn their back. I hope not, I'd like to see the same respect given to the Canadian anthem that should have been given the US anthem.

A lot of people have been calling radio stations from Montreal or used to live in Montreal and they all say it's not Canadians, it's the "The french that want to succed from Canada". whatever, whoever, it's disrespectful.
Its disrespectful to kill innocent people by the thousands, maybe the States should styop doing that and people will stop booing their anthem.

Just a friendly piece of advice from a friendly nation that shows protest in non violent ways instead of killing the innocent.
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LOL yea I don't agree with the war either...but why does the national anthem have to be boo'd becuase of that?

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Old 04-15-2004, 02:53 AM   #74
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I couldn't care less if they boo the US anthem. Any US team could do the same with Canada's. Not a big deal
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Old 04-15-2004, 09:04 AM   #75
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It's just an anthem. I say boo it, if it pisses you lot off so much. Shows it is working.
whatever, it's disresectful and shows a lack of class, and if the Boston fans boo the canadian anthem tonight I'll be saying the same thing about them.
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Old 04-16-2004, 03:02 PM   #76
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Well, although the team didn't show up, the fans did. Cheered the Candadian anthem, and cheered and sang the US. First time I can remember on TV the singing of the crowd was loud enough to hear and almost drowned out the singer.
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Most Canadians don't consider Quebec to be part of Canada anyways. I mean, not seriously anyways.

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Didn't read all the replies in this thread, but just let me say:

Most Canadians don't consider Quebec to be part of Canada anyways. I mean, not seriously anyways.

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Yeah, Don "Grapes" Cherry was on the radio and reinforced what everyone has said, it's the "french" candians, ones that don't even like being called Canadian and want to succed from Canada.
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