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Old 01-26-2015, 12:36 AM   #1
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Dont get me wrong the Triple threat was AMAZING! but the pacing and setup seemed a little off at the start. By the middle I was well and truly into it and loving it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:38 AM   #3
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There are tons of people posting their cancellation notices on twitter.

This is definitely Will Ferrell Trident-level absurd theater. This is the pure, uncut, good shit.
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Old 01-26-2015, 12:47 AM   #6
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Just going to embed a live feed of the hashtag, because I can't possibly keep up with the GLORY.
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Knowing the WWE's recent past, Cena is going to be the one who benefits the most in the end. Either in the form of Mania no longer revolving around Reigns or everything Cena does gets seen as just important or better than whatever Reigns does.
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lol The WWE network cancellation page crashed
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WCW wanted people too be pissed at Hogan. That was the point. Completely unrelated situation.

And a "group of fans" equates to every arena visited last year? You're being a bit ignorant, here.
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And I just joined the cancel crowd

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Old 01-26-2015, 12:53 AM   #14
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:07 AM   #15
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I said this in a Raw thread a while back I believe, but the main reason why "we" are "shitting" on Roman Reigns is because he simply has no character development since he debuted. Rollins progressed, Ambrose progressed, Reigns did not. He was the muscle of the group with them and he is just muscle without them. If he is going to get over, he needs to either find a way to better relate to the fans as a babyface or be completely re-packaged. We, the audience, are not stupid and we can see his character is no different now than it was in 2013.

Bryan was the favorite & most logical choice to win the Rumble. However, I think it would have been different if he had stayed in there longer and/or somebody other than Reigns would win if not him. Problem is that it was leaked on the net a long time ago that Reigns was the favorite to win behind the scenes. So in essence, we kinda new the most likely scenario. The fans in the arena (as well as others at home) wanted to see something different happen. Since Reigns was proclaimed the favorite, the fans wanted anyone other than Reigns to win. Same thing happened last year with Batista. It's a coincidence that it was Reigns as the runner-up, but the fans would have been cheering Duke The Dumpster Drose if it came down to he and Batista.

When Bryan got eliminated, it became a deflating moment because the anticipation was Reigns was going to win. Had they called an audible and had Ziggler, Ambrose, Wyatt, Rusev, hell even The Big Show win, then I think the reception at the end would have been different.
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I said this in a Raw thread a while back I believe, but the main reason why "we" are "shitting" on Roman Reigns is because he simply has no character development since he debuted. Rollins progressed, Ambrose progressed, Reigns did not. He was the muscle of the group with them and he is just muscle without them. If he is going to get over, he needs to either find a way to better relate to the fans as a babyface or be completely re-packaged. We, the audience, are not stupid and we can see his character is no different now than it was in 2013.

Bryan was the favorite & most logical choice to win the Rumble. However, I think it would have been different if he had stayed in there longer and/or somebody other than Reigns would win if not him. Problem is that it was leaked on the net a long time ago that Reigns was the favorite to win behind the scenes. So in essence, we kinda new the most likely scenario. The fans in the arena (as well as others at home) wanted to see something different happen. Since Reigns was proclaimed the favorite, the fans wanted anyone other than Reigns to win. Same thing happened last year with Batista. It's a coincidence that it was Reigns as the runner-up, but the fans would have been cheering Duke The Dumpster Drose if it came down to he and Batista.

When Bryan got eliminated, it became a deflating moment because the anticipation was Reigns was going to win. Had they called an audible and had Ziggler, Ambrose, Wyatt, Rusev, hell even The Big Show win, then I think the reception at the end would have been different.
Two months is a long time to build his character but it doesn't help if the person he's challenging will only be making 2 or 3 appearances during that period.
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it's just an absurd comparison
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I was at the rumble. The Triple Threat match was amazing. Just incredible, and made the night worth it.

The rumble was just bad. Had no energy to it or pacing, especially after Bryan was eliminated. It sucked the enthusiasm right out of the arena. So many big guys in the ring at once, was just boring. My brother who doesn't watch anymore or even know whats going on said it was awful the way it ended.

The boos could have been worse, but I think some people just didn't have enough emotion to even boo anymore, because they stopped caring. There was a lot of talking half way through the rumble, people weren't really paying attention after it started to get super stale. Lots of "Let's go Rusev" or "this is bullshit" chants. Yes people were cheering Reigns on last year but people forget why - because nobody wanted to see Batista win. I would have even preferred to see Hornswoggle win this rumble over Reigns.

I still had a good time but I purchased these tickets months ago, and had I known it was going to be like that, perhaps I would have passed on it. I definitely have no interest in watching it further, as I already haven't been watching for quite a few months. I can't believe they are just so out of touch. It isn't even about Bryan winning, it is just when they try and force you to like someone, and instead someone like Ziggler that people genuinely want to see gets 20 seconds of ring time.

Also, what was the announce team saying about the boos? I was sitting there thinking that they were likely trying to play it off as the crowd booing whoever was hitting Reigns.
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Well, #CancelWWENetwork is now the #1 trend in the World, not just the U.S.

And apparently the cancellation page of the WWE Network has crashed.

I am honestly enjoying watching this unfold more than I enjoyed watching the Rumble itself.
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I hope Vince is going into convulsions over this.

I hope his investors are pulling their hair out

Did somebody have the sense to RT cancel WWE network to Vince ?
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I hope Vince is going into convulsions over this.

I hope his investors are pulling their hair out
63 days time nobody will be thinking about this and you will all be commenting on how great WM 31 was, that Roman Reigns walked out the champion and Sting made an awesome WWE in ring debut and ended The Authority, oh and how Triple H rolled back the years and put in a stellar performance.

McMahon has been in this business long enough to know what he's doing. The storm will die down.
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McMahon has been in this business long enough to know what he's doing. The storm will die down.

You know, it's crazy.


Had it not been for CM Punk leaving the WWE last year, I think the whole Daniel Bryan/Sheamus rumors for Wrestlemania would have actually come to fruition.


Batista and Orton would have been your main-event.


The XFL + WWE Network + ?????


I'm starting to wonder if Vince is really as smart as people make him out to be. Time will tell..........if it hasn't already.
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You know, it's crazy.


Had it not been for CM Punk leaving the WWE last year, I think the whole Daniel Bryan/Sheamus rumors for Wrestlemania would have actually come to fruition.


Batista and Orton would have been your main-event.


The XFL + WWE Network + ?????


I'm starting to wonder if Vince is really as smart as people make him out to be. Time will tell..........if it hasn't already.

WWE Network wasn't a smart move at all imo. Well having the PPVs on it wasn't but maybe it was combat the free streaming. But I can't imagine the likes of BSkyB being happy with that.

Also people seem to be attaching way too much importance to the RR match and the WM title match. Firstly as you know from past experience, not winning the RR doesn't mean X superstar is eliminated from the prospect of the WWE title match re: triple threat, four way elimination etc. There is every possibility and given the amount of anger, WWE will probably relent and make it a 4 way elimination match.

Secondly, the title match is not automatically the main event or considered the marquee match on the card. Hogan Rock was second to last at WM 18 but no doubt was the de fact main event. In recent years we've had Taker v HBK, Rock v Cena 1 close out the show, perhaps given the significance of those events. This year it might be Sting v Triple H. The title match isn't necessarily "the main event" at WM and hence winning the RR or losing it doesn't necessarily matter that much. And do you honestly rate the likes of Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio amongst the greatest Royal Rumble winners? Those guys were never bad by any stretch of the imagination but were not exactly on the same level as other legendary winners like Hogan, Flair, Rock, Austin etc.

Besides Ultimate Warrior and Mick Foley never won the RR and it did no harm to their careers or their popularity amongst the fans. I see no reason why Bryan not winning the rumble would do the same.

And some fans, cancelling subscriptions because a result doesn't go their way. Do you ask for refunds at an NFL game if your team doesn't win?

Do you suppose Patriots or Seahawks fans will be asking for refunds if their team doesn't win the Super Bowl next Sunday?
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WWE Network wasn't a smart move at all imo. Well having the PPVs on it wasn't but maybe it was combat the free streaming. But I can't imagine the likes of BSkyB being happy with that.

Also people seem to be attaching way too much importance to the RR match and the WM title match. Firstly as you know from past experience, not winning the RR doesn't mean X superstar is eliminated from the prospect of the WWE title match re: triple threat, four way elimination etc. There is every possibility and given the amount of anger, WWE will probably relent and make it a 4 way elimination match.

Secondly, the title match is not automatically the main event or considered the marquee match on the card. Hogan Rock was second to last at WM 18 but no doubt was the de fact main event. In recent years we've had Taker v HBK, Rock v Cena 1 close out the show, perhaps given the significance of those events. This year it might be Sting v Triple H. The title match isn't necessarily "the main event" at WM and hence winning the RR or losing it doesn't necessarily matter that much. And do you honestly rate the likes of Sheamus and Alberto Del Rio amongst the greatest Royal Rumble winners? Those guys were never bad by any stretch of the imagination but were not exactly on the same level as other legendary winners like Hogan, Flair, Rock, Austin etc.

Besides Ultimate Warrior and Mick Foley never won the RR and it did no harm to their careers or their popularity amongst the fans. I see no reason why Bryan not winning the rumble would do the same.

And some fans, cancelling subscriptions because a result doesn't go their way. Do you ask for refunds at an NFL game if your team doesn't win?

Do you suppose Patriots or Seahawks fans will be asking for refunds if their team doesn't win the Super Bowl next Sunday?
Its not just some fans its alot (like if im an investor I'm calling Vince and asking him is he fucking retarded) ALOT, and youre comparing this to football LOL somebody else do this I can't even...
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Can't wait for the final number of cancellations.
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Wow, are people actually cancelling their subscriptions over this? I'm actually greatly entertained by that. People say "if you don't like it, stop watching" and have used PPV buys in the past to pinpoint whether or not something works, but often people would purchase PPVs expecting them to be good, or not purchase because they have low expectations and then the blame is misplaced on a fresh concept not working. Now the Network almost allows a direct gauge to whether or not people are engaged in what they have seen; and with the WWE so dependent on it, they will be forced to listen.

Personally, I was deflated after the Royal Rumble. I don't usually say these things, but I could not give a fuck about WrestleMania right now. Lesnar vs. Reigns? No interest. Rusev vs. Cena? No interest. You can call me a smark if you want; but I have been watching wrestling for fourteen years now. I'm allowed to have my own taste, and something about what the WWE has been offering lately has just put me off.

Bryan winning was the best option. It makes the most storyline sense, and it would have provided the best match. It just wasn't meant to be Reigns' year. He's been produced and marketed to be this next big thing, but it feels phony, artificial and it isn't clicking. A little weakness from Reigns might actually get people to find him less bland.

I will continue to watch NXT, but until something changes, I am actually done with RAW and SmackDown.
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If I were an investor in WWE, I would have been pretty pissed off at that PPV. Maybe we will start to see some changes soon. Although rumors suggested that Triple H wanted Reigns to win the Rumble too. I would like to think that he would have seen how weak Reigns has come across in recent weeks and shifted things up however.
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If I were an investor in WWE, I would have been pretty pissed off at that PPV. Maybe we will start to see some changes soon. Although rumors suggested that Triple H wanted Reigns to win the Rumble too. I would like to think that he would have seen how weak Reigns has come across in recent weeks and shifted things up however.


I'm actually quite baffled as to how badly the WWE screwed the pooch on this one.
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I'm actually quite baffled as to how badly the WWE screwed the pooch on this one.
I actually don't get it either. I don't get how the WWE didn't get it last year. What did they actually think would happen?
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I find it funny that the people arguing against the booing of Reigns are looking completely past the fact* that, just like The Rock initially, he is being built as a generic babyface that lacks personality and hasn't done anything of note yet. There is literally NO reason to get behind the guy other than WWE telling everyone they should.

I hope, for his sake, this leads to his own version of a "Die, Rocky, Die" moment: something he can expound on to become a memorabe character that resonates and leaves a lasting impression with fans and not just a blank token the back office thinks "should be the man" by 1970's standards of getting over.


*wtf is a "feact"? We will never know.
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The thing is, this actually damages Roman Reigns' ability to draw. The WWE pushing him too hard was always a concern of mine, because once he crosses over into that "overdone" territory, a large contingent of fans will hold a grudge for a very long time. Reigns could have been the coolest thing in the world at one point.

This also hurts Daniel Bryan. Instead of proving that he is still "the guy" coming back from injury, he has to come out on RAW and say "Well, it turns out I'm not the guy." At least last year he was protected by not being in the match. People were pissed, but not deflated. Vince and co. have made sure that the average mark knows that Bryan can't win the big one anymore.

Dolph Ziggler looks like shit. I haven't been as into him as everyone else seems to be (but I haven't been watching RAW or SmackDown much), but him getting knocked out and eliminated makes him look like a bit of a pussy too. The same goes for Dean Ambrose. Everyone the audience cared about was sacrificed at the alter of Roman at the Rumble, and now the WWE might have damaged everybody.

Brock Lesnar and Seth Rollins were really the only two people who came out of the Rumble looking fairly good. It wouldn't shock me if Rollins wins the World Title between now and WrestleMania to get him into that main event.
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thing is I still don't think WWE understands the power the IWC has and probably thinks
we are just a few upset Smarks and don't matter

Then #cancelwwenetwork trends worldwide....
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we are just a few upset Smarks and don't matter

Then #cancelwwenetwork trends worldwide....
WWE network won't be around this time next year, not in it's current form anyway.

I can't see the viability of $9.99 a month that includes all the PPVS when you could make so much more from individual PPV buys.

Sure it consolidates all the archives but surely all of that is available somewhere on the internet for free as are streaming opportunities.
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thing is I still don't think WWE understands the power the IWC has and probably thinks
we are just a few upset Smarks and don't matter

Then #cancelwwenetwork trends worldwide....
Also, that "IWC" is more or less an outdated term when it's viewed as maybe 1000 people in the world being basement-dwelling neckbeards circle-jerking in a forum like this one or some AOL style chatroom, and not LITERALLY EVERY FAN WITH A CELL PHONE, which at this point consists of pretty much everyone over the age of 10.

Its like they're oblivious that those same people who hold their phone up during Bray's entrance can use the damn thing to say how shit their decision-making is. Funny that.
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This is like a terrible car crash that you know you should look away from but just can't... I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry right now. On the one hand an industry I've been invested in for damn near two decades looks like it's taking a major hit, but on the other this might be the kick in the balls it needs to actually improve.

Like Noid said though I may very well be done with RAW and Smackdown now... I'll tune in tomorrow, partially out of habit and partially out of curiosity to see if they can actually turn this around. However, outside a full on retcon of tonight I can't see how they could possibly appease the fans' blood lust. This is like a Marvel Ultimates level disaster. The WWE juggernaut may very well have been brought to its knees tonight.
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This is like a terrible car crash that you know you should look away from but just can't... I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry right now. On the one hand an industry I've been invested in for damn near two decades looks like it's taking a major hit, but on the other this might be the kick in the balls it needs to actually improve.

Like Noid said though I may very well be done with RAW and Smackdown now... I'll tune in tomorrow, partially out of habit and partially out of curiosity to see if they can actually turn this around. However, outside a full on retcon of tonight I can't see how they could possibly appease the fans' blood lust. This is like a Marvel Ultimates level disaster. The WWE juggernaut may very well have been brought to its knees tonight.
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