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Old 01-26-2015, 01:50 AM   #1
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:27 AM   #2
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another absurd comparison
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another absurd comparison
What would you prefer I compare it to?

Or are you just such a Bryan mark that you can't accept the reality that A) he lost, B) there are people out there who actually aren't Daniel Bryan fans shock horror?

I'm sure Hogan had his haters back in the day who weren't into the whole hulkamania phenomenon.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:32 AM   #4
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What would you prefer I compare it to?

Or are you just such a Bryan mark that you can't accept the reality that A) he lost, B) there are people out there who actually aren't Daniel Bryan fans shock horror?

I'm sure Hogan had his haters back in the day who weren't into the whole hulkamania phenomenon.
have i mentioned bryan?
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have i mentioned bryan?
No but ever point I make you label as an absurd comparison.

The whole behaviour of so-called fans on here "oh bryan didn't win boo hoo I'm not watching WWE again blah blah blah blah blah blah".


Maybe Bryan isn't the best man for the job, to take the mantle full time, to be able to take hard knocks week in week out in the ring or in training etc and perhaps he needs to be eased back into action.


What would you rather have, that he won the rumble, "won" against Lesnar but picked up legit injuries meaning he had to take time out again for an extended period and relinquish the title again.

Or would you all rather he managed to regain his full fitness, carry on wrestling and further down the line say a few months from now, he returns to the main event picture and occupies the top spot for a longer period?
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No but ever point I make you label as an absurd comparison.

The whole behaviour of so-called fans on here "oh bryan didn't win boo hoo I'm not watching WWE again blah blah blah blah blah blah".


Maybe Bryan isn't the best man for the job, to take the mantle full time, to be able to take hard knocks week in week out in the ring or in training etc and perhaps he needs to be eased back into action.


What would you rather have, that he won the rumble, "won" against Lesnar but picked up legit injuries meaning he had to take time out again for an extended period and relinquish the title again.

Or would you all rather he managed to regain his full fitness, carry on wrestling and further down the line say a few months from now, he returns to the main event picture and occupies the top spot for a longer period?
He shouldn't be in there if he isn't ready to go. Even if you know you aren't going to be able to bank on him for an additional five years, he was still the best choice to win this year. The story kind of demanded it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:27 AM   #7
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Gotta agree with Noid. Lesnar Reigns seems Shi blah. Reigns has no momentum. The story for him and Lesnar is non existent.

Rusev has had one of the best long term builds in fucking ages. And now he's going to become Cena fodder, just like Wyatt last year.
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Also, there is a supposed to be a huge blizzard tomorrow in Hartford, where RAW will be. I wonder if they will postpone RAW and use it to their advantage to deflect the negativity.
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The WWE has never really understood the internet and the power it wields. Vince, despite his best efforts to turn "professional wrestling" into "sports entertainment", often still proves to have that carny-style disdain for his own marks. The presentation of the Roman Reigns character has been corny and transparent, and quite frankly, an insult to the intelligence of viewers. You can't "work" people into enjoying a persona like that any more.

And he should know that. Things have been shifting in that direction for years.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:33 AM   #12
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Reigns could have been a perfectly acceptable winner of the 2016 Royal Rumble. He could have been a perfectly acceptable WWE Champion by SummerSlam time. Now his rise is going to be associated with "#CancelWWENetwork."

If they leave it as Lesnar vs. Reigns at WrestleMania, I think the best option would be to pull a Lesnar/Reigns double-turn, and have Heyman help Reigns win. At least as a heel, Reigns won't be a bland Superman babyface.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:38 AM   #13
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Reigns could have been a perfectly acceptable winner of the 2016 Royal Rumble. He could have been a perfectly acceptable WWE Champion by SummerSlam time. Now his rise is going to be associated with "#CancelWWENetwork."

If they leave it as Lesnar vs. Reigns at WrestleMania, I think the best option would be to pull a Lesnar/Reigns double-turn, and have Heyman help Reigns win. At least as a heel, Reigns won't be a bland Superman babyface.
If they cancel the network it will be due to the logistical problems they've had and the fact it doesn't make sense to give fans everything for 9.99 a month when they could charge $40 or whatever for PPV buys and people will still buy it.

It was an ill-fated and baffling move.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:50 AM   #14
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If they cancel the network it will be due to the logistical problems they've had and the fact it doesn't make sense to give fans everything for 9.99 a month when they could charge $40 or whatever for PPV buys and people will still buy it.

It was an ill-fated and baffling move.

Not really. Profits are split with the Cable and other TV providers for PPV buys so WWE doesn't make what they should on them. The problem is that they thought they would have 3 million worldwide subscribers by now, which would mean they would be making far more money off the network than they ever did on PPV.

They reported they made a total of $82million on PPV in 2013, they would make that in a quarter on the Network IF they got the numbers they were hoping to get.

Either way, right now they are losing money on their big shows like RR and WM that normally get high buy rates; but they are making more money on the smaller PPV's that normally only draw 175k-200k buys.

Which brings us to tonight. If even half of these people are actually canceling their accounts, that is going to be a major blow for them.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:39 AM   #15
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Reigns could have been a perfectly acceptable winner of the 2016 Royal Rumble. He could have been a perfectly acceptable WWE Champion by SummerSlam time. Now his rise is going to be associated with "#CancelWWENetwork."

If they leave it as Lesnar vs. Reigns at WrestleMania, I think the best option would be to pull a Lesnar/Reigns double-turn, and have Heyman help Reigns win. At least as a heel, Reigns won't be a bland Superman babyface.
Turning heel is really Reigns' only option at this point. He'll have to pull a Batista, hell, maybe even sign on as the Authority's guy just to make this halfway believable.
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The thing is it is about Bryan. Sure, the crowd might have turned around for Ziggler or for Ambrose, but could you really see them headlining WrestleMania right now? The only smart option was Bryan once he was announced for the match. If you don't want him to win, don't have him in there.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:35 AM   #17
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I think he already knew and was being sarcastic.
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It might be the best course of action to have someone "take out" Reigns and do a Rumble rematch at Fast Lane.
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It might be the best course of action to have someone "take out" Reigns and do a Rumble rematch at Fast Lane.
As I said before there are 63 days until WM and a lot could change/happen between now and then.

A rumble rematch is unlikely.

I would however be open to the prospect of an elimination chamber match given that it seems the PPV has been shelved for the time being, they can use the EC as a gimmick/stipulation and it would satisfy the fans and a number of big superstars by having an EC match with Lesnar for the title at WM.

Lesnar v Bryan v Reigns v Rollins v Ambrose v Ziggler v Wyatt all in an elimination chamber would be pretty awesome.
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Ironically, just about the only guy they are building right is Rusev, and they seem to have kinda put him on the back burner... which actually helps him, provided WWE remembers he's back there. They haven't really done anything to damage his credibility, but he's kind of just roster filler right now.

Armchair booking: he should have been Roman's target about now. Fuck this year's 'mania, maybe shoot for next year's. Build his stock with a solid midcard run instead of having him jump the line. The time they could have used to make this sit better with the audience was wasted with Reigns sitting in a hospital last year, but in spite of that, pulled the trigger anyway even with a giant blank spot in the resumé.
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Bad night for WWE.

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Best thing the WWE can do: Have Triple H announce on RAW that Roman Reigns is defending his WrestleMania title shot in a Royal Rumble rematch. It's evil, it's screwy, it might drive fan sympathy towards Reigns a bit more -- and they can move him out of the immediate title picture. Have him eliminate Seth Rollins and then have a pissed off Rollins dump him out post-elimination.
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There you go again making unsubstantiated injury themed posts. Why don't we just wait to hear he's actually injured before you start trying to use it to justify tonight's lackluster decision.

The reason you can't find a decent comparison to Bryan is because there isn't one.
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There you go again making unsubstantiated injury themed posts. Why don't we just wait to hear he's actually injured before you start trying to use it to justify tonight's lackluster decision.

The reason you can't find a decent comparison to Bryan is because there isn't one.
I never said it was a fact that he was injured you spastic. Merely speculating that he might be injured.
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I never said it was a fact that he was injured you spastic. Merely speculating that he might be injured.
Based on? You've hung onto it since the end of the show. Exactly what are you basing these speculations on?
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Based on? You've hung onto it since the end of the show. Exactly what are you basing these speculations on?
On the fact that he's come back from a rather serious and lengthy injury. It's not impossible for injuries to resurface especially if rushing back into physical activity so soon.

We will find out in due course I am sure but the whole point of internet forums was to discuss and speculate?
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On the fact that he's come back from a rather serious and lengthy injury. It's not impossible for injuries to resurface especially if rushing back into physical activity so soon.

We will find out in due course I am sure but the whole point of internet forums was to discuss and speculate?
True, but there's been no reason to think he's hurt. None. He's wrestled regularly since returning. He looked fine during the rumble and hit his usual big spots.

Fine to speculate. But you're reaching on these injury ideas.
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Then have Daniel Bryan win, and hope that all is well in the world. Bryan insists on defending his shot against Reigns at Fast Lane however, since he's that sort of guy. Bryan beats Reigns and then moves on to Brock at WrestleMania.
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Watch WWE turn Reigns heel tomorrow and then try to claim it was the plan all along.
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NJPW World appears to also be down.

This is so fucking great. If you average in these last three hours, this may be the best show of all time.
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NJPW World appears to also be down.

This is so fucking great. If you average in these last three hours, this may be the best show of all time.
This has turned into the greatest night ever

I hope this all carries over to RAW and just continues to snowball
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If Reigns turns heel out of this, they should actually just have him stripped of his Rumble title shot by popular demand. Network subscribers are cancelling because they hate Reigns so much, is the official Authority story. Daniel Bryan comes to Reigns' defense and tells them that he won the Rumble fair and square, and as a result, should be given the shot, but to no avail. Reigns starts Spearing good guys and not giving a fuck very soon after that.
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Repost, but god damn it, I need to keep this train going and it's amazing.

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I'm so giddy over this that I'm using the word giddy.

Still number 1

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Shame there isn't another wrestling company that can compete with WWE right now. This could have been their moment to skyrocket in popularity.
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Shame there isn't another wrestling company that can compete with WWE right now. This could have been their moment to skyrocket in popularity.
NJPW is gonna do a double take when they see their site
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