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Old 05-04-2011, 11:08 AM   #81
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Great...the one thing WWE has going for it, they ruin in...5 days?!

Can't wait to see all the wrestling conspiracists come out now and say, "See told ya! Gonna be Orton v. Cena to unify the titles." Just know there's someone out there who will insist that this is the case.

Hopefully, this will build to a rematch at Over The Limit and maybe we could see a 2nd, more lengthy title run for Christian, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Probably just VKM's way of saying to the Peeps "there, I fuckin' did it, OK? I let him hold the title, now fuck off!"
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:13 PM   #82
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They could go with Christian feeling he has been conspired against and slowly turning heel. Or they could play a "Tasted glory for a moment only to have it taken away" angle and have Christian go back after the title as a face. Dunno.

Only thing I'm looking forward to on SD! is to see what the reaction to Christian is like after he loses. The report said the fans were chanting his name. Wanna see how loud that is or if that gets edited out entirely.

My guess would be that Orton got the title as "payment" for going to SmackDown. He sure didn't seemed thrilled with the move when he came out at the draft.

Really no idea where they are gonna take this. Just crossing fingers that it leads somewhere.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:19 PM   #83
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:31 PM   #84
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So was it a clean win for Orton? And did it make Christian look like a bitch in the process, or did he atleast come close to retaining his title?

This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. He JUST won the thing. This isn't like hot-shotting the title from Austin-to Kane-back to Austin or Austin-to Mankind-to Triple H. This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd, he's been working toward this moment for years and years, and when he finally wins the title in a moment that can be see as him finally reaching the pinnacle of success in the shadow of his "brother's" retirement, they fucking snatch it right back out of his hands.

I'm really hoping that this leads to a Christian heel turn where he becomes obsessed with winning the World Title back and is willing to do anything to get it. A heel Christian against a tweener Orton could be some good shit, supposing that it does lead to Christian regaining the belt. But as things stand right now, I think this is a pretty bullshit turn of events and a slap in the face of Christian and all of his fans.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:36 PM   #85
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So was it a clean win for Orton? And did it make Christian look like a bitch in the process, or did he atleast come close to retaining his title?

This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. He JUST won the thing. This isn't like hot-shotting the title from Austin-to Kane-back to Austin or Austin-to Mankind-to Triple H. This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd, he's been working toward this moment for years and years, and when he finally wins the title in a moment that can be see as him finally reaching the pinnacle of success in the shadow of his "brother's" retirement, they fucking snatch it right back out of his hands.

I'm really hoping that this leads to a Christian heel turn where he becomes obsessed with winning the World Title back and is willing to do anything to get it. A heel Christian against a tweener Orton could be some good shit, supposing that it does lead to Christian regaining the belt. But as things stand right now, I think this is a pretty bullshit turn of events and a slap in the face of Christian and all of his fans.
Really interested to see how this plays out before I get all bent out of shape, but I feel ya.
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Bullshit.

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Let's all be honest here.... Christian is like Skid Marks mixed with Chris Benoit. He is an amazing wrestler who always impresses and knows TONS of really great moves, and on the flip side he sells like Carnie, or Skid Marks. That's why he isn't the champ right now because nobody REALLY believes he could kick anyone's ass. He's not cut, big, intimidating in any way, AND he totally over acts sometimes. I think WWE is making great choices for their business these days and Orton does make a bigger Champion than Christian.

Now with WWE making good choices I am holding out hope that this instance forces Christian to depths he has never gone to before. We all know he is a phenominal heel and had a great feud with Cena several years ago before departing for lesser pastures. If this angle is to work out a sping/summer Orton/Christian feud, I don't think Smackdown! could get much hotter. They are desperately in need of a top heel and while Rhodes is good he's just not there yet, Christian however is more than capable. Remember Punk guiding Orton through their various matches over the past months, just imagine how Christian could lead Orton as well, especially considering his matches with Del Rio.


Let's just hope for the best, don't jump the gun yet, WWE isn't as foolish as they used to be, just chill and see what happens here.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:58 PM   #88
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They could go with Christian feeling he has been conspired against and slowly turning heel. Or they could play a "Tasted glory for a moment only to have it taken away" angle and have Christian go back after the title as a face. Dunno.

Only thing I'm looking forward to on SD! is to see what the reaction to Christian is like after he loses. The report said the fans were chanting his name. Wanna see how loud that is or if that gets edited out entirely.

My guess would be that Orton got the title as "payment" for going to SmackDown. He sure didn't seemed thrilled with the move when he came out at the draft.

Really no idea where they are gonna take this. Just crossing fingers that it leads somewhere.
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So was it a clean win for Orton? And did it make Christian look like a bitch in the process, or did he atleast come close to retaining his title?

This is pretty ridiculous if you ask me. He JUST won the thing. This isn't like hot-shotting the title from Austin-to Kane-back to Austin or Austin-to Mankind-to Triple H. This is just senseless booking. Christian is over with the crowd, he's been working toward this moment for years and years, and when he finally wins the title in a moment that can be see as him finally reaching the pinnacle of success in the shadow of his "brother's" retirement, they fucking snatch it right back out of his hands.

I'm really hoping that this leads to a Christian heel turn where he becomes obsessed with winning the World Title back and is willing to do anything to get it. A heel Christian against a tweener Orton could be some good shit, supposing that it does lead to Christian regaining the belt. But as things stand right now, I think this is a pretty bullshit turn of events and a slap in the face of Christian and all of his fans.
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Really interested to see how this plays out before I get all bent out of shape, but I feel ya.
I agree with y'all on this potentially being something good, but time will tell. Christian's world title run was just like Mysterio's sympathy run after Eddie's death. Edge had to retire so they put the belt on Christian out of sympathy and the emotional connection with Christian created by the Edge situation. At least he dropped the belt to an established star and didn't have to go through the horrible run Mysterio did. I do believe that this is horrible decision because Christian can be very entertaining and would have been interested to see what he could have done with a decent reign as champion, but there is still potential that this is the start of a much needed Heel turn for Christian or a program with him being the mega-face chasing the dastardly Orton who might be turning heel.
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:29 PM   #89
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I hate this CRAP as much as everyone else... I am a huge Christian mark...

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Old 05-04-2011, 01:52 PM   #91
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Christian losing the belt isn't actually such a horrible thing for him, hes either going to become even more over as a face because the fans want to see him get the belt back (especially if Orton turns heel, making him THE undisputed top babyface on the show) or hes going to turn heel and steal it back from Orton.

Sure it would have been nice if he held it for a while longer but this is very likely to build him up either way, while feuding with Mark Henry would have just been total filler before Orton got him. I wouldnt be surprised if Randy did turn since he's stated numerous times he prefers being a heel anyway.
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Allow me to just say this on behalf of WWE fans everywhere: FUCK YOU, VINCENT KENNEDY McMAHON!"

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Ya know, I dont mind this. This isn't the Orton mark in me talking either. This is the fact that for the longest time I have liked Christian as a competitor. But it's time to turn him heel. He's awful as a face
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I was going to post it for strictly comic effect but judging by some of the vids on Youtube I've seen from the mutants about Christian, this would be quite tame
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As much as this sucks, it doesn't affect him... I mean strap or no strap the paycheck stays the same and reads "Jason Reso" not Christian.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:13 PM   #106
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How about we all calm the fuck down and see where they are going with this.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:18 PM   #108
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You know, for as disappointing as this might be for some of you, Christian's still better off this week than he was last week. Former world champion is a pretty good resume booster.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:22 PM   #109
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Pretty funny though if you think about it.

I was expecting it to say "just kidding" after the main event spoiler. I guess not
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:36 PM   #110
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You know, for as disappointing as this might be for some of you, Christian's still better off this week than he was last week. Former world champion is a pretty good resume booster.
Yeah, how DARE we be so greedy and expect Christian's first title run to last a whole month or two?
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:39 PM   #111
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I never thought Christian would ever win the WWE/World Title. The reason, I never thought Vince saw him as a World Champion. I guess I was right. I could not stop laughing when I saw the results.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:40 PM   #112
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Yeah, how DARE we be so greedy and expect Christian's first title run to last a whole month or two?
I'm sorry. Did my positive outlook offend you?
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:41 PM   #113
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Orton was probably bitching all week that he had to go to Smackdown! so he had a talk with Vince demanding the title, (Shawn Michaels circa 1996_style). Orton has Vince by the balls. He'll do whatever he can to get his way. Just like how he got Kennedy fired

I wanna see Christian come out and call out Teddy Long for making that match "just because he wanted to one-up RAW" for having a WWE Title match on Monday. Then have Christian beat down Teddy Long. I wonder if that'll be good enough to turn heel. Is Teddy a big enough babyface to have the fans turn on Christian?
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:42 PM   #114
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Orton had a match at the PPV too. Not really an argument, BOYEE.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:53 PM   #115
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Assuming this is true, don't expect Christian to win back the title or have any hope of a lengthy future reign. It looks like the WWE wants Orton to become the "Cena" of Smackdown.

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... To begin with, as we exclusively reported several days ago, Randy Orton is set to become the focal point of the Smackdown brand, and the entire Friday night show will be centered around him from both a marketing and creative standpoint. Orton's position on Smackdown can be compared to John Cena's position on Raw, as WWE looks at both talents as the creative centers of their respective brands.

Additionally, we were told that Christian's title win at Extreme Rules was done not so much as a "well deserved win for Christian," but much more so that a big moment could be made for Edge at the PPV. "Vince [McMahon] could smell, touch and taste a moment between Edge and Christian celebrating on PPV, and that's the major reason why Christian was awarded the title." This dispels any conspiracy theories that Christian was awarded the title to keep it on Smackdown, as we were told it would have been very easy for WWE to throw a third party into the Extreme Rules match which would have kept the title off Christian and still on Smackdown.

As to the question of why WWE stripped Christian of the title so shortly after his win at Extreme Rules, WZ was told that no one in WWE with any kind of influence values Christian as a top money draw for the company. Christian is well liked, and is considered, as we were told, "a reliable hand," but when it comes to being a top player in WWE, Vince McMahon has absolutely no faith in him.

Brian Gewirtz, who is the head writer on Raw, and also oversees the entire writing staff in general, which means he does have influence on the direction of Smackdown, is said to be a big supporter of Christian, but other than him, there appears to be no other members of WWE's top brass that consider Christian to be a major player. And yet, we're told by our key WWE insider that even Gewirtz wouldn't speak up for Christian as a top draw. "Brian knows Christian is a very entertaining wrestler," we were told, "but even he knows Christian should not be the number one guy on either brand."

As we said, however, Christian is still considered to be a quality worker and a reliable hand for WWE, and we were even told that a possible producer/agent position might be available for him when his wrestling days are over, but as far as Christian ever working at the top of a WWE brand, that seems to be a very unlikely possibility.
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:09 PM   #116
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:26 PM   #118
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Orton is x10 over with the crowd.
So, it's right that Orton should be champ because he gets the biggest reaction. Yet we bitch when Cena - who gets the biggest reaction (good or bad) on the roster - is champ!?

Typical IWC.
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:31 PM   #119
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It's only the muties that tend to really cry and moan about Cena. There's just a lot of them.
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It's all about booking. Orton has been booked to be a superstar for years. Christian has not. Orton is gonna get a bigger reaction. If this all happened on Raw, I'd be way more "fuck WWE" because Raw has no concept of booking a character whatsoever and this would just be an example of going the lazy way and putting the title on someone already crazy over instead of being creative.

Since it's Smackdown, a show that has proven (to me at least) that it can make things interesting, I'm gonna go ahead and a) see if Orton can be fresh and interesting again in what are hopefully some great world title storylines to come. and b) see if this is leading to something big for Christian, probably as a bitter heel at least for a while.
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