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Old 08-05-2013, 07:51 PM   #81
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I would mark out if Christian won the World Heavyweight Title at SummerSlam and then on RAW he appears only via satellite. He announces that he, like his best friend Edge, is retiring the undefeated World Heavyweight Champion. He's given so much to the company over the years, and to the fans, so he knows they will understand his decision to retire with the championship belt. Vickie Guerrero freaks and has to create a new belt to represent the World Heavyweight Championship as tensions rise on SmackDown because Vickie didn't know what Christian was up to. A new World Heavyweight Champion is crowned (let's say Dolph Ziggler) and Christian shows up with the Real World Championship and says hello to all his peeps and asks if they are going to accept this impostor champion. Christian then runs before he can be captured by security and forced to hand over the World Heavyweight Title belt.

It'd basically be a cross between the Summer of Punk angle and Ric Flair's "Real World Champion" shtick. The pay-off is a "unification" match between Christian and Ziggler to decide who is the World Heavyweight Champion.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:53 PM   #82
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Or you don't even pay the angle off. Instead, you just have Christian show up randomly with the old-school World Heavyweight Title belt and make being the unofficial champion his thing. Give him a reign that rivals CM Punk's WWE Title reign. Why create a new belt design? No real reason, other than if they want to treat the WHC like a secondary title, they could change the design to reflect that.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:27 PM   #83
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:21 PM   #84
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I would mark out if Christian won the World Heavyweight Title at SummerSlam and then on RAW he appears only via satellite. He announces that he, like his best friend Edge, is retiring the undefeated World Heavyweight Champion. He's given so much to the company over the years, and to the fans, so he knows they will understand his decision to retire with the championship belt. Vickie Guerrero freaks and has to create a new belt to represent the World Heavyweight Championship as tensions rise on SmackDown because Vickie didn't know what Christian was up to. A new World Heavyweight Champion is crowned (let's say Dolph Ziggler) and Christian shows up with the Real World Championship and says hello to all his peeps and asks if they are going to accept this impostor champion. Christian then runs before he can be captured by security and forced to hand over the World Heavyweight Title belt.

It'd basically be a cross between the Summer of Punk angle and Ric Flair's "Real World Champion" shtick. The pay-off is a "unification" match between Christian and Ziggler to decide who is the World Heavyweight Champion.
Noid has no end to intriguing plots. I like the idea of doing this when it comes to time to redesign the WHC and at Christian doing the Hollyood Hogan schtick of defending only when contractually obligated every 30 days.
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It looks like that "Hollywood" sign is DROPKICKING CHRISTIAN IS THE HEAD!!!
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Hollywood is pretty much a dropkick to the head if you've ever been there.
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Also, a theme change would be good. Story Of The Year's version of "Just Close Your Eyes" just doesn't really have the same effect as Waterproof Blonde's did. The latter nailed it and it was perfect for Christian.
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I agree with Lock Jaw, though. I don't think Chavo Guerrero will return to the WWE and become a multi-time World Heavyweight Champion. Maybe he will, and I will gladly welcome it as a Chavo fan, but I don't think the move to TNA helped Christian much at all.
Part of my point was that WWE continued to ground him down into status of lackey and comedy act to a pretty un-recoverable point. Vickie's gopher? Feuding with his own way-past-his-prime dad?? Jobbing repeatedly to goddamn Hornswoggle?!? By the time Chavo was gone, absolutely nobody cared. Had Chavo left sooner while there was still some spark to him, who knows, this thread may well could have been discussing him. Same could be said of Matt Hardy. It's more about *when* and *how* they left, and not just the simple fact that they did.

Hell, if Christian never left, HE may have gone on to become the Swagger Soaring Eagle. He went to TNA while people still gave a fuck AND actually became an asset to them instead of coasting by on his WWE recognition and/or being made to look like a fool. Christian walked away while he still had some status to his name, and even though his comeback was kind of handled in the manner of sour grapes*, he still came back with some status to his name, and not a collective groan from the crowd.

It's sad that it took a retiring Edge and a dramatic change in landscape ("smaller" guys getting better shots- which doesn't make much sense considering people like Edge or HBK were never the biggest) for this guy to be in the position he's in instead of getting a legit damn push in the first place.


*He could have just as easily gotten all the hype that both Jeff Hardy and the recently returned RVD got... both coming from TNA, mind you, and the subsequent push on the main roster instead of that lackluster "It's Christian." on WWECW. Its little things like that could have improved his perception instead of doghousing him like "fuck you, you left".
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:58 AM   #91
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After thinking about it for awhile I think I have one major critique of Christian and it is that he is too good at hitting the Kill Switch efficiently. He's so quick about it that sometimes the match is over before the fans can get into the psyche that the match is ending now.

He had a really great match on the Road to Money in the Bank on Main Event against Damien Sandow. The match had a great back and forth pace and the finish was pretty quick. Christian had been thrown out of the ring by Sandow for a breather-move but Christian came back quickly and snapped the Kill Switch for the win. Great match sort of ruined by a flash-bang finish. You need to give time for the audience to understand there is a finisher so they can get excited about seeing it happening. "The Outta nowhere approach" isn't really for everybody or for every move especially for one with the movement the move is supposed to have. I also think he's been putting it on way too safely like Triple H has with the Pedigree for years. Not saying I want him to hurt people with the move, but it looked better when he drove the head more downwards to the mat instead of spreading it out.
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Not a Christian fan, but I like him as WHC a hell of a lot more than Alberto Del Rio. Get the belt off that heat suck NOW!
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:11 AM   #93
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Christian's glory days are long behind him how, and he's not getting the opportunity to show his best side, if he's still got it. I thought I wouldn't like him as WHC as he'd be getting it as a lifetime achievement award, but at the same time the WHC division is hot and him being a stable champion in there would allow some rivalries to form that weren't just about the belt.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:23 AM   #94
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As much as I would love for Christian to become a 3x champion fixture, I can totally see them having Christian beat Of The River, only to have Sandow cash in on him, which in turn has Cody come beat him down, then use the "soggy" contract to cash in on him.

But, I would much rather they keep him rolling. Say what you want to about his work as a heel being more entertaining than him as a face, but I like "finds a way to win" Christian better than "can't win the big matches" Christian. This is the solid booking that he could have benefited from ages ago.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:50 AM   #95
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I'd like to see Christian with the belt, just because then he might actually get the chance to cut a promo.
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Old 08-12-2013, 10:45 AM   #96
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Christian as champion is always a good idea.

Like others have said, I miss his jackets and "style." Added another level to his character and he was damn entertaining at that time.
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I kind of hate how almost everyone has to wear their own merch all the time now, looks particularly bad when a character like Damien Sandow does it. Barrett's awesome cape jacket also suffered because of this policy, he would probably be main eventing if he didn't have to wear his awful t-shirt.
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:46 PM   #98
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Barrett still hasn't recovered from when they were pushing him to the moon and he broke his elbow on the Road to WrestleMania.

The shirt has nothing to do with it.

Christian's chemical shirt is pretty bad. He's not Heisenberg. He's had some really bad ones as of late. That killswitch one was horrendous.
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Barrett needs a complete repackage. Every time they try to, he comes out looking the same, moving the same. The only things that have changed are his music and his finisher.
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I am sad that Wade Barrett is not in the main event yet. Really big fan of him. Think is he tremendous.
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Barrett needs a complete repackage. Every time they try to, he comes out looking the same, moving the same. The only things that have changed are his music and his finisher.
Thought the delusional movie star or the bare knuckle gimmick would have worked out well for him but instead all it lead was another hotshot to the US/IC title and then the WWE doing nothing with it.

Him and Kofi are the best examples of how bad the WWE has been using those titles to elevate someone.
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Barrett still hasn't recovered from when they were pushing him to the moon and he broke his elbow on the Road to WrestleMania.

The shirt has nothing to do with it.

Christian's chemical shirt is pretty bad. He's not Heisenberg. He's had some really bad ones as of late. That killswitch one was horrendous.
I think they should play into the Heisenberg stuff more with Christian. Shave his head and give him an unpredictable attitude. "He's the God-damn Captain."

I was going to make a separate topic for this, but I figure it can be discussed here:

Why Christian?

I think it's a fair point. They have some big matches already confirmed for SummerSlam, but when you have Randy Orton and Rob Van Dam under contract and you choose the least over of the three for a World Title opportunity, what are you thinking? Does the WWE want Christian to be a big deal? He's one of my favorites, so that works for me, but will the people buy it?

An upside I like is that Christian earned this match. It may have come out of nowhere, but I like the idea of a third wheel stepping up and earning the title shot. It's not always going to be the biggest, strongest or even the best who squeaks out a win. Christian has nudged one out here and is now #1 Contender despite not being the biggest star that's yet to be booked.

Hopefully at SummerSlam Christian gets to come out with some sweet ring gear, a new titantron and maybe even a new theme song to freshen him up and create the appearance of him being a big deal.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:58 PM   #104
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I'd love it if Christian won the World Title and then started acting cocking, calling himself "The Best" and all that. Could be a great way to slide into a Christian/CM Punk feud.
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Barrett still hasn't recovered from when they were pushing him to the moon and he broke his elbow on the Road to WrestleMania.

The shirt has nothing to do with it.

Christian's chemical shirt is pretty bad. He's not Heisenberg. He's had some really bad ones as of late. That killswitch one was horrendous.
It's the little things that can help a guy stand out though. "Oh it's Wade Barrett, that British guy" would become "Oh, it's Wade Barrett, that British guy with the awesome cloak jacket!" and people would remember him. Cody Rhodes grew a moustache and it made him instantly over again.
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He is only now starting to get over again, but not by much
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Christian losing his swank is one of the saddest moments in professional wrestling history.
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I like that The Miz busts out his jackets on PPVs and such.
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Off topic: Barrett can recover from all this with his currrent "Sweeny Jobb" gimmick with Bryan. Let's say DBD takes a page out of Cena's book and "overcomes the odds", Vince backs Barett as HIS idea of what a champion is, sort of like Rocky being the Corporate Champion... as long as they don't just have him obsesing over the beard thing.

On topic: Christian being in the mix of the WHC makes sense given the curent landscape. RVD, though capable and a veteran, just came back. Orton has other options with money in the bank contract. The current champion is inconsistent with his heat, especially since his whole incencerity gimmick has been done to death and he has no other dimension to him. Cody has been around and done enough to get pushed to that next level, though Sandow takes a bit more arguing... and Christian could make that make that argument.
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