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Old 01-02-2006, 06:03 PM   #81
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ROFL no way is HBK anywhere as near as good as Bret was.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:04 PM   #82
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Have you ever been to a funeral where ALL you spoke about was the person who died? I can't say I ever have. That would be a whole day of shitty conversation if that happened.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:06 PM   #83
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Your bitching about neg rep and getting called an idiot would be funnier if you could spell Egypt or its rulers right.
No i dont "bitch" i dont take crap from pepole who like to give me crap. this is the only forum in the world were everyone has the maturity of 4 year olds towards newbies, like you gotta own us or something, who know what it is, repressed homosexuality, touched as a child, im sure you all have your reasons. I feel like im a personal "Montreal screw job" incident around here, seriously, just let it go. And another thing, everyone chill the fuck out on spelling, bitch about it like teachers?
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:07 PM   #84
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oh and by the way, the only reason Vince met with BRET and agreed on the footage was to get Bret on his side for the court hearings.
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You're right. HBK is nowhere near as good as Bret.......since he's way above him.

Ric Flair says the same thing by the way.
Yeah because Flair is the biggest jobber of all time.
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lol, I'm starting to think this guy is trolling. He's put over HHH, Flair and HBK in a Bret Hart thread.
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oh and by the way, the only reason Vince met with BRET and agreed on the footage was to get Bret on his side for the court hearings.
I don't disagree with that.

Vince McMahon is a selfish asshole. Shawn Michaels is also a selfish asshole.


Having said that however......and I know this will break the heart of many Canadians reading this.....but Bret Hart, is also a selfish asshole. Period.



That's the one thing that single-handedly annoys me about Canadians/Bret marks in this whole "Montreal Screw job" scenario.


Bret Hart marks try and make this whole scenario look like it was a losing battle between good and evil. In Bret Hart fans' eyes, evil defeated good.

In Bret Hart fans' eyes, an almost morally perfect, Ghandi-like human being, was screwed by an unbelievably ruthless and evil businessman.


Lets no kid ourselves here folks. Vince is an asshole. However, he is also a shrewd businessman.

Bret Hart is just as selfish as HBK, Vince McMahon, Hulk Hogan, etc. It just so happened that in Montreal, he got the short end of the stick.
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Mick Foley sucks.
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lol, I'm starting to think this guy is trolling. He's put over HHH, Flair and HBK in a Bret Hart thread.
I've also called each and every one of those guys assholes.

Just because I think someone is highly intelligent, a good businessman, or a tremendous in-ring performer, doesn't mean that I think they're not a-holes.
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Yeah because Flair is the biggest jobber of all time.

You've lost me.

How does Ric Flair jobbing in matches, have anything to do with his exceptional in-ring ability?

Speaking of Ric Flair, I love how Bret Hart felt the need to lambast Ric Flair on his web site, after Flair dissed Bret Hart in his book.


If Bret really was as secure as he wants people to believe, don't you think he would have just ignored Flair? Two wrongs make a right eh Bret?
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:24 PM   #91
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:26 PM   #92
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You've lost me.

How does Ric Flair jobbing in matches, have anything to do with his exceptional in-ring ability?

Speaking of Ric Flair, I love how Bret Hart felt the need to lambast Ric Flair on his web site, after Flair dissed Bret Hart in his book.


If Bret really was as secure as he wants people to believe, don't you think he would have just ignored Flair? Two wrongs make a right eh Bret?
Wow.
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Not sure why you've brought Mick Foley into this conversation, but I can comment on him.

Foley had great personality, had excellent in-ring pyschology, and took bumps like none other. Foley is one of my favorite sports-entertainers of all-time.

Foley also genuinely seems like a good hearted, self-less, soul......that genuinely put the company's interests ahead of his own. Guys like Shawn Michaels, Triple H, and even Bret "Ghandi" Hart can learn from this.


Aside from that however, Foley will never be mistaken with Chris Benoit in terms of technical wrestling. But since I feel this way, I obviously have no respect for Foley right?
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Wow.

So I guess Bret was justified in attacking Flair on his website, since Flair attacked him?

By that logic, George Bush is justified for his war in Iraq.


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Pretty much.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:35 PM   #96
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Not sure why you've brought Mick Foley into this conversation, but I can comment on him.

Foley had great personality, had excellent in-ring pyschology, and took bumps like none other. Foley is one of my favorite sports-entertainers of all-time.

Foley also genuinely seems like a good hearted, self-less, soul......that genuinely put the company's interests ahead of his own. Guys like Shawn Michaels, Triple H, and even Bret "Ghandi" Hart can learn from this.


Aside from that however, Foley will never be mistaken with Chris Benoit in terms of technical wrestling. But since I feel this way, I obviously have no respect for Foley right?
I was just commenting (sarcastically) on how you're basically quoting the Flair and Bret thing. Foley did the same thing. He and Flair had a scuffle where Flair wanted a handshake and Foley declined and made a snide remark on Flair's book. He went as far as almost kicking Flair's ass after Flair punched him. I guess Mick is also insecure, right?

Flair is an asshole.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:37 PM   #97
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So I guess Bret was justified in attacking Flair on his website, since Flair attacked him?

By that logic, George Bush is justified for his war in Iraq.


Two wrongs make a right, and if you're not with us........you're against us.
Oh no, I'll admit Bret can be a prick about Montreal, just not as much as a prick as most people ("Haters") make him out to be.
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I guess Mick is also insecure, right?
You bet he is!

Foley hasn't forgotten about that fateful day. He re-lives it every waking moment.

The people of Long Island are also quite devasted......and chant "You punched Foley!" every time Flair makes his way down there.


Mick Foley has created his own website and has created a section called 'FLAIR'.....so that he can tell his side of his story to the fans....about how Flair punched him in the head.

Furthermore, Foley has taken it upon himself to go on various talk shows to talk about that fateful day.
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Bret needs to get over himself.

He was never as good as Davey Boy Smith, Tom Billington, Eddie Guerrrero, Ric Flair. They would always come above Bret in any "Top 10 Wrestlers" poll in my eyes.
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Flair went as far as to write it in his book in the first place.
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You bet he is!

Foley hasn't forgotten about that fateful day. He re-lives it every waking moment.

The people of Long Island are also quite devasted......and chant "You punched Foley!" every time Flair makes his way down there.


Mick Foley has created his own website and has created a section called 'FLAIR'.....so that he can tell his side of his story to the fans....about how Flair punched him in the head.

Furthermore, Foley has taken it upon himself to go on various talk shows to talk about that fateful day.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:44 PM   #103
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An accurate one? Triple H used that same analogy in the past. Since Paul Levesque is a much smarter man than you, me, or Bret, I tend to respect his opinions quite highly.
So Triple H said that...

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Bret complaining that he didn't want to lose the belt to HBK in Canada because he's a hero there, would be the same as Mel Gibson's Braveheart character stating that he didn't want to die in Scotland, because he's a hero there.
If you think comparing film to wrestling is accurate, then you're a moron, and so is HHH if he takes that analogy seriously. The wrestling world is a continual ongoing thing. Bret was going to WCW, and not losing in Canada after he'd been built up as Canada's star was a decision based on a role he was going to continue on for the rest of his career. You want to compare? How many people love the Bret Hart (played by Bret Hart) on WWF TV, and how many love the William Wallace (played by Mel Gibson) in Braveheart. Do you see where there's a difference? People don't look at acting the same way as they do with wrestling, they don't take William Wallace signs to the movie theatre. People in Scotland don't give a fuck about William Wallace played by Mel Gibson, and he didn't have a career as William Wallace in Scotland after the movie was finished.

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Bret is doing this DVD for a few reasons:

1) His ego.

2) Money.
As opposed to what WWE was making Screwed for? Money and ego?

I'm pretty sure money wasn't an issue for Bret. Ego maybe, in the sense that he wants his career to mean more than one incident in Montreal that Vince still can't get over.

Also, Flair's receipts, laughably comparing Mick Foley to Warrior and Beefcake, are far more childish and ego driven than anything Bret has done. But I guess it makes THEM in the wrong for making a comment on how people slander them unfairly
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You bet he is!

Foley hasn't forgotten about that fateful day. He re-lives it every waking moment.

The people of Long Island are also quite devasted......and chant "You punched Foley!" every time Flair makes his way down there.


Mick Foley has created his own website and has created a section called 'FLAIR'.....so that he can tell his side of his story to the fans....about how Flair punched him in the head.

Furthermore, Foley has taken it upon himself to go on various talk shows to talk about that fateful day.
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Old 01-02-2006, 08:16 PM   #106
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Bret needs to get over himself.

He was never as good as Davey Boy Smith, Tom Billington, Eddie Guerrrero, Ric Flair. They would always come above Bret in any "Top 10 Wrestlers" poll in my eyes.
Are your eyes crossed?

Davey Boy Smith: Not even in the same league as Bret Hart. Especially when it comes to technical wrestling. He was a good power wrestler, but thats about it.

Dynamite Kid: Very Good tecnical wrestler, but wasn't around long enough to evolve the way Bret did. They were very similar when they first came around, but Bret adapted and Billington disapeared.

Ric Flair: Watch his matches, they are practically identical for the last twenty years. He was a very good heal early in the eighties, but he is WAY overated.

Eddie Guerrero: The only one you listed that i agree with.
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Old 01-02-2006, 11:17 PM   #107
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That's why we should all get over it though. If we ignore it, Vince will have to at some point.
I'm not excusing it, just saying why it comes up.
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I'm not excusing it, just saying why it comes up.

It comes up for 3 reasons, and 3 reasons only:

1) Bret Hart holds a deep grudge, and can't get over something that happened 8 years ago.

2) Some Canadian fans like to cheer "You Screwed Bret!" chants at live events because its fashionable, while others like The avenger, Zen v.W.o., and Rob are grudge carrying goof balls themselves..which is why they relate so well to Threat Fart.

3) Vince McMahon knows that any Bret Hart reference will garner fan interest. Hence, Vince continues to bring up the Montreal Screw job in certain areas, because it garners great heat.
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Old 01-02-2006, 11:31 PM   #109
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I am retarded for one reason and one reason only:

I'm pulling shit out of my ass
Fixed.
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So Triple H said that...



If you think comparing film to wrestling is accurate, then you're a moron, and so is HHH if he takes that analogy seriously. The wrestling world is a continual ongoing thing. Bret was going to WCW, and not losing in Canada after he'd been built up as Canada's star was a decision based on a role he was going to continue on for the rest of his career.

So you're basically implying two things with your post:

1) Wrestling IS real.

2) If Bret Hart jobbed to HBK in Canada, Bret Hart would lose respect amongst Canadian fans.


Give me a break.

This is the Sports-ENTERTAINMENT business.


Bret "The Hitman" Hart is a wrestling CHARACTER.


By refusing to do the job to HBK at Survivor Series that year, Bret basically told the world that two wrongs make a right. HBK didn't put me over, so I'm not putting him over. Period.


But hey, Bret's a pretty good business man to I guess. He's milked the Montreal Screw job, Owen's death, etc. for all its worth as well....which is why people like you and I continue to speak about it.
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You're right. HBK is nowhere near as good as Bret.......since he's way above him.

Ric Flair says the same thing by the way.

Flair is a senile old bastidge. He's been up the Kliq's butts ever since he got into the wwe earlier this decade.
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So you're basically implying two things with your post:

1) Wrestling IS real.
No, simply that it's a different entity. Kind of like how music and movies are different. They're both entertainment.

OR how horror and comedy are diffeent.
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Fixed.

Sure buddy.

Give me a buzz when you actually have something to say.


Or better yet! I can hold an 8 year grudge against Kane Knight because he thinks I'm retarded, and negative repped me. Excuse me while I go create my own website, create a section called 'Kane Knight', and then go on Off The Record and talk to Michael Landsberg about how Kane Knight is morally inferior to me.
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Are your eyes crossed?

Davey Boy Smith: Not even in the same league as Bret Hart. Especially when it comes to technical wrestling. He was a good power wrestler, but thats about it.

Dynamite Kid: Very Good tecnical wrestler, but wasn't around long enough to evolve the way Bret did. They were very similar when they first came around, but Bret adapted and Billington disapeared.

Ric Flair: Watch his matches, they are practically identical for the last twenty years. He was a very good heal early in the eighties, but he is WAY overated.

Eddie Guerrero: The only one you listed that i agree with.

Actually you under-rated Davey. Davey had a very good mix in the ring, and more people should try to remember that. He's no slouch at all when it came to technical wrestling.
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So you're basically implying two things with your post:

1) Wrestling IS real.

2) If Bret Hart jobbed to HBK in Canada, Bret Hart would lose respect amongst Canadian fans.


Give me a break.

This is the Sports-ENTERTAINMENT business.


Bret "The Hitman" Hart is a wrestling CHARACTER.


By refusing to do the job to HBK at Survivor Series that year, Bret basically told the world that two wrongs make a right. HBK didn't put me over, so I'm not putting him over. Period.


But hey, Bret's a pretty good business man to I guess. He's milked the Montreal Screw job, Owen's death, etc. for all its worth as well....which is why people like you and I continue to speak about it.
How has he milked Owens death??
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Flair is a senile old bastidge. He's been up the Kliq's butts ever since he got into the wwe earlier this decade.

Ric Flair also told people that he hopes his son can grow up to be like Kurt Angle one day.

I guess Flair only said that because he's up the Kliq's butt eh?

It's all about politics!


moron.
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Sure buddy.

Give me a buzz when you actually have something to say.


Or better yet! I can hold an 8 year grudge against Kane Knight because he thinks I'm retarded, and negative repped me. Excuse me while I go create my own website, create a section called 'Kane Knight', and then go on Off The Record and talk to Michael Landsberg about how Kane Knight is morally inferior to me.
Sadly, that argument held more footing than your original; pointlessness.
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Ric Flair also told people that he hopes his son can grow up to be like Kurt Angle one day.

I guess Flair only said that because he's up the Kliq's butt eh?

It's all about politics!


moron.

lol, it IS politics. Hence why he'd be up the asshole of a HHH for instance.
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How has he milked Owens death??

How about the fact that after Owen's death, Bret actually had the audacity to use Owen's death to further lambast Vince...for his own selfish reasons.

I'm not saying that Bret wasn't saddened by Owen's death. I'm broaching a sensitive subject area here, and I apologize if I offended you...or others.
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lol, it IS politics. Hence why he'd be up the asshole of a HHH for instance.
Then why didn't Flair say something like, "I hope my kid grows up to be like HBK and HHH one day?"


Why do you automatically assume that Flair is sucking up to the kliq when he bashes Bret Hart? Does it not occur to you that the man may actually have a point?

Threat Fart DID NOT draw worth a dime. That's a FACT.
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