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Old 04-06-2008, 09:45 PM   #81
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Jeff had a good run, that was ended awkwardly and abruptly thanks to his own actions. Ended by probably the next best man possible, but ended nonetheless.

Jericho could have a great run with it but he's already done that, I'd rather see him keep it warm and make it mean something for Punk after a long program for it.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:46 PM   #82
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Aint it a bitch how the fans get behind Jericho at the darndest times? Now they're way back into him.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:48 PM   #83
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I also feel the IC and US titles should be defended every week with clean finishes regularly. They should be, since it's not done with world titles anymore in the age of no competition and ppv only title defenses
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I miss the attitude era when the titles were booked properly most of the time. And if say jericho/cm punk had a feud back then you could guarantee it would turn out great. These days you just don't know.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:52 PM   #85
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ehh, depends. The IC title was booked excellently at times like HHH/Rock or Jericho/Benoit, gettting defended a lot in well built fueds on ppv and tv.

The world title was booked excellently over that period of time, with excellent free tv defenses against guys like Mankind, HHH, and even Xpac (at the time he was fuckin over and tv was his only chance to get the nod).

But you also had downpoints for the IC title, circa late 98 and early 99, as well as the occasional world title defense against Al Snow or Val Venis by The Rock
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That was cool to see back then though, cause there was so much greatness they could afford to have some down moments, these days its just not quite the same, for obvious reasons. And you could definately guarantee they would've booked a jericho/cm punk feud well.
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Titles, particularly the world titles, are booked more like they were in the old days these days. They're never defended on tv and only in big matches, and change hands way less frequently. The way they were booked in the attitude era was because you needed to give away title defenses and even changes on free tv because of the competition of the monday night war, which made everything move at an incredibly fast pace.

It seems they've reverted back to how it was before the attitude era, which is how Vince seemingly likes it unless he has to do otherwise. Not fully though. At least they don't have completely lopsided squashes on tv like they used to
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That was cool to see back then though, cause there was so much greatness they could afford to have some down moments, these days its just not quite the same, for obvious reasons.
You were pretty young then thought, right?
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Which is probably why most of the attitude era generation of fans, including myself on some level, have a hard time with the current state of affairs. We were brought up on a business that was extremely fast pased and eventful with way more happening in way less time, and now it's back to basics for the most part. It's like being an alcoholic and then trying to get your fix off a few sips, or taking speed and then trying to get all amped up off a red bull. Or some analogy I can't think of
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You were pretty young then thought, right?

Well im 22 now, so was around 13 back then i think if my maths is correct. Whyd you ask?
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Yea, Destor, he was probably young. Hell, I was but I realize now how great the main event and most of what went on was while at the same time being kinda shallow and not as well rounded.
Storywise, and for main events ppvs were amazing but if you look at some shows at face value they don't really hold a candle to a lot of current ones. Mainly Wrestlemanias.

They began to fix this as they won the war though. 2000 WWF was probably the best it could be, since it had the perks of the attitude era and all those stars, while still having a depth to its roster and a well rounded card in all divisions.

Don't get me wrong, the attitude era > today, but theres a lot to it.
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Well im 22 now, so was around 13 back then i think if my maths is correct. Whyd you ask?
I think some of that post was blinded by nostalgia, just saying.
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You might be right actually.
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I'm 22 as well TL. The Rock vs Xpac for the title was far more enjoyable to us because we didn't know better. If we knew what we do now, we'd be just waiting for the dissapointing end to it and wouldn't be jumping off the couch thinking we'd be able to go into school tuesday and talk about the upset.
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I'm 22 as well TL. The Rock vs Xpac for the title was far more enjoyable to us because we didn't know better. If we knew what we do now, we'd be just waiting for the dissapointing end to it and wouldn't be jumping off the couch thinking we'd be able to go into school tuesday and talk about the upset.
True. I think the crowd at the shows had something to do with it, the crowd were fired up more than these crowds today, and i dont think this bit is nostalgia. Just saying from what ive observed.
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It's a bit of both
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When HBM hit Xpac with the chair?
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Nah honestly, the crowds of today just sit there and do fuck all most of the time. This is partly due to very poor booking obviously though so i can't really blame them.
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Oh yeah. I think it was the night after Survivor Series.
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I meant overall, the greatness of the attitude era is a bit of both. It was superior tv and fans as a result of that. But also, half the people on here would bitch about that shit if it happened today, it's just that today is today and then was then to most fans

Even casuals are the same. I have a roomate who'll be like, "it just aint the same anymore" when Raw is on. And he's right, but he'll say it without even watching one second or listening one word.
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I remember they tossed out Al Snow heads to the first front rows. And that was how I found out pro wrestling was fake.
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I found out wrestling was fake when I tried to watch it and everyone in my family told me it was fake shit. I then went into school and told kids it was fake, who staunchly disagreed. This was in like 94 or 95 and I used to shatter kids dreams. Then in 96 I started watching and by the time 98 rolled around I was in awe
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:23 PM   #109
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I remember really thinking Owen hated Bret and the rest of his family.
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I remeber not watching the WWF for years becuase "that stuff was fake." Felt like an ass later in life..
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I was also one of those ignorant wrestling haters who dismissed all aspects as fake at a young age though. In 5th grade my friend would show me pictures of bleeding wrestlers and blood covered faces and I'd be like "thats all fake blood" despite his correct explanation that it was really from cuts.
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IMO its better that it is 'fake' or 'staged' even cause ive seen real fighting like ufc and tbh that bores me.
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I remember really thinking Owen hated Bret and the rest of his family.

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But then stuff like Kwang, I was like WTF, that shit is so fake. Consequently, when Savio Vega ran out to help Razor at that IYH, I was like OMG WTF is that guy doing?? Savio has really had me at both ends of my rope.
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UFC bores the shit out of me. When it comes to real fights I prefer seeing 2 drunk kids throw down outside a party or bar, or in the courtyard at school. They don't go for bearhugs and shit, nor does some dude in dreads and gloves jump in after 2 seconds to break it up
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Amazingly off topic thread. I love it
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the best thing about wrestling in 5th grade was that my friend had figures of Diesel, Razor and Ultimate Warrior and I like broke them all. Turns out those things are like worth enough to put me through college now
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Money in the Bank - pre...04-06-2008 09:24 PMthedamndestREP FOR BEING AN ASS
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Amazingly off topic thread. I love it

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