Rugby 2009-2010 Thread - Page 4

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 06-30-2009, 02:02 PM

Bastereaud is in a mental hospital lol, what an idiot

**WestNZ** · 06-30-2009, 04:29 PM

Sad that that ass Frog player had to lie like that, what sort of a reputation did he give the New Zealand public after a stunt like that

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 06-30-2009, 07:53 PM

LOL man I hate Peter De Villiers as a coach, and even kind of as a person. But I will say one thing about him, he is a funny (unintentionally so) fucker

credit this to rugbyrugby.com

Rugby Rugby's Jan de Koning takes a look at the strained relationship between Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and the media, as well as his often used muddled and synesthetic metaphors.

Love him or hate him, Springbok coach Peter de Villiers is a colourful character. At Monday's media gathering at the South African team's hotel the Bok coach was at his most entertaining (or irritating, depending on your view) best.

There is no doubt De Villiers has a strained relationship with the media and, despite his public utterances to the contrary, he does read and care what they say about him.

How else would you explain his numerous public and private run-ins with members of the media.

It is a fact that De Villiers declined the opportunity for 'media training' and elocution lessons - which could smooth over his relationship with the media.

He has also declined to have a translator at his side at media gatherings, which would allow him to speak in his first language - Afrikaans. This is common practice for many teams - like the French and Argentineans.

Having had the 'privilege' to be at a media conference conducted mainly in Afrikaans, it is easy to see how much more comfortable he is when speaking in his first language. The same applies when you have a one-on-one interview with him.

You sometimes get the idea that De Villiers deliberately provokes the media with his muddled speech. He appears to enjoy the attention and the reaction he gets.

He is fond of his metaphors, but as members of the press corps have suggested, you often need to decipher De Villiers.

However, this week he will have to explain himself in a private conversation with South African Rugby Union President Oregan Hoskins - the very man that once famously said De Villiers was appointed for "reasons other than rugby".

It has been suggested that this conversation, between Hoskins and De Villiers, will not be a serious ticking off, maybe just a quiet chat to pull the Bok mentor back in line and give him some "guidance".

The sad part is that the South African media has not been nearly as brutal in portraying De Villiers in a bad light as has been the case with the international media - especially this week when they have jumped at the opportunity to portray him as a person who condones eye-gouging.

The problem is that, because of his limited linguistics skills when speaking English, he fails to get his message across to members of the international media - who don't have the same insight into his confused grammatical ways. I know, as an Afrikaans speaking person, exactly how easy it is to get it wrong.

But it is De Villiers's choice to decline training and, as a result, he must bear the consequences.

But back to Monday's comedy show - or media ruck - when the British and Irish press tried their utmost to provoke the Bok mentor. At times they succeeded.

You can't recreate the atmosphere and the buzz every time De Villiers said something strange or confusing.

What we will do is put in print a few of his best metaphoric attempts at answering media questions and hopefully the readers will also be entertained - or irritated, again depending on your view.

Here are a few of De Villiers' most entertaining answers:

Asked about the prevalence and increased incidents of eye gouging around the world:
De Villiers: "I'm against anything that's not in the spirit of the game, anything. We won't go to that lows of being negative, in such a positive game that we have. We've got brilliant players in this country, they are world class, most of them. To try and even prepare them to do little small things that belong outside in the Bushveld - if we want eye gouge any Lion we will go down to the Bushveld, then we eye gouge them and see if we can outrun them or they haul us in. But we will never, never encourage anybody to be part of negative or anything that brings the game into disrepute."

De Villiers was asked, repeatedly, whether he still feels that flank Schalk Burger was not guilty of eye gouging. He was also asked if he had seen the TV evidence:
De Villiers: "Schalk's nature and character is - if you know the man like I know him - he won't ever ... he is too physical, he is more physical than any player in the world - to go to that kind of message to show he is the boss on the rugby field. He will never, ever do it and I don't think he did it, but we stand and abide by what's happened there [at the judiciary]. So eye gouging is something that we as a team, and especially me, will definitely - as biting, as head butting, as spear tackling, all those things that don't belong in the game. We want to promote this game amongst our youth, we want everybody to see how passionate we are about this game and we want to bring that passion about in our country. We want this game to be the biggest nation-building tool that there ever can be and by encouraging stuff like that we will be fighting a lost cause - so, I will never, ever be part of something like that. I'm telling you, I watched the TV footage, I'm not saying anything - because it is against what we decided as a team. I watched the TV footage and I am still convinced there was nothing that he went on purpose - when he saw the footage it was something that he was 'yoh' [taken aback], but he never meant to go into anybody's eye. I abide by what we said and will wait for the report."

Asked if he thought stiffer penalties will discourage acts like these - also spear tackling:
De Villiers: "I'm part of this lovely game and I'm very honoured to be part of this lovely game and there are some things I will enhance while I'm part of this lovely game - negativity is not one of those things. I don't make the laws, I don't write the books, about [the length of] sentences, I only abide by them. I don't appoint judicial officers, I don't always agree with them, but then again I'm part of the system and if you can't work within the system, if you want to have your own system, create your own world. So, there's a lot of things that I don't like in life, but while I'm part of this world I have to adjust to make it work."

Asked how he thought Burger's fingers make contact with Fitzgerald's eye:
De Villiers: "Some of us have a hearing problem. I said, that we stand as a group by what the team said - we are waiting for report and if the report comes out and by any means says that Schalk is guilty of eye gouging then we just have to abide by that. I believe it won't be the case, but we stand by that. We are waiting for the report and then I can answer your questions, I can't give you any answer without the report. [It was then suggested he was ducking the issue]: I'm not ducking the issue. It is just that I am working in the system, I'm not like you [the media] that have no system, you can work wherever you want to work. We are working in a system where we wait until the report has been tabled, then we will react. We are waiting for the report se we can dissect it word for word and then come to you with an informed answer and then we don't misunderstand each other again."

Asked if he had spoken to Burger about the incident:
De Villiers: "We are not cross with each other. We sat down at breakfast this morning, we sat down last night until 12.12 [just after midnight Sunday] waiting for them to finish [at the hearing]. So, ja, I have spoken to him and as I expected, he is an honourable man. If you take him way from rugby he will be the best person to have him around you."

Asked, based on his statement that Burger is an honourable man, if he felt that would be strong enough to overturn an appeal:
De Villiers: "What we must understand here, very, very clearly, is rugby is a contact sport and so is dancing. So guys who can't take it, make the decision. If you guys are really clued up with this game, there was so much incidents that we can say we want to cite this guy for maliciously jumping into a guy's face with his shoulder and stuff like that ... why didn't we do it? The reason why we don't do stuff like that is this game will always be a game to us and sometimes you get away with things that you don't even mean - sometimes you make decisions that's right and wrong and you get away with it and we are so part, and honoured to be part of it. If we are going to win games in boardrooms and in front of television cameras like this and think we should go shop and say to ourselves, do we really respect this game that we really honour so much and the passion we have for it - do we really want to be part of it. And if this case that we are going on now, why don't we all go to the nearest ballet shop, get some nice tutus, get a great dancing show going on - no eye gouging, no tackling, no nothing and then we'll enjoy it. But in this game there will be collisions and the guy who wins the collision the hardest, that's the guy we will always select. And if we are going to make it soft and we won a Test series and people don't like it, I can't do anything about it."

Asked about criticism from the South African media and suggestions that he (De Villiers) is the weakest link in the Bok team:
De Villiers: "I'm not disappointed with them [the media]. Everybody in life has an opinion. I don't react to opinions, I react on fact. If people think I am the weakest link, then we are bloody strong! I didn't know about the perception, and I do not even have time to think about it. I know myself that I am a God-given talent. I am the best ever that I can be, so whatever you think about me doesn't bother me. I know what I am, and I don't give a damn."

On the suggestion - from the Lions management - that the Springboks were lucky to win the first two Tests:
De Villiers: "I always describe lucky as getting into a bar and somebody hits you and misses, that's lucky. But if there's 80 minutes to play a game in and you at the end of the day look at the scoreboard and you are ahead, I think that is character more than luck. So people would say that our luck gives a new dimension to character."

**Bad Company** · 06-30-2009, 08:24 PM

lol fuck he's an idiot.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 06-30-2009, 08:32 PM

"I know myself that I am a god given talent".

I'll say one thing, at least he'll be one of Rugby's unique characters, to say the least. Too bad he doesn't know how to coach in a game.

Also, shouldn't Heiny Brussouw be starting over Burger anyways, regardless of eye gouge or not. And shouldn't Dewald Potgeiter be starting? I don't get it. I mean an international squad should be a team of players who are on form, not players who are of the old guard, just because they've been there. Dewald Potgeiter right now, is a better flank than Juan Smith, and Heinrich Brussouw is better than Schalk Burger.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 06-30-2009, 08:42 PM

The thing is with Potgeiter and Brussouw are those are two guys who don't focus on all that filthy bullshit that a Schalk Burger does. I'll never doubt Schalky's commitment but he is just too focusd on being "That" goon. It takes away from his game. Also, the physical style he plays has cuahgt up to him if you ask me. He's still a workhorse and he's still phenomenal but there's no doubt he's lost a step and doesn't QUITE have the same impact he used to.

In Potgeiter and Brussouw you have two guys that can flatout CHANGE a match. If you don't belive me, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Brussouw has 3 performances against the lions already where he essentially dominated them. Turnover ball all game. He almost got the cheetahs a win, in the first test the boks weren't the same when he came off, and when he came on in the last 20 minutes with Morne Steyn, the entire match changed. He got 3 KEY turnovers in 20 minutes, it was un fucking believable.

As far as Potgeiter, the guy is just unreal. Not the biggest (much like Broussouw) even though he's about 220 pounds. He is however the definition of workhorse, he's all over the field, he makes try saving tackles, he takes ANYONE on, he's a natural born leader. The effort he put in against the chiefs in the S14 finals was unholy. As far as I was concerned he deserved a spot on the Boks after that match. And then the Emerging Boks drawing the lions was another story. He completely led his team from the front. It was unbelievable, I don't there was a passage of 1 minute where you didn't see him involved.

Now Heiny's got a start pending, and Dewald is on the bench for the Boks. Both should have been starting in the first place. I'm hoping Dewald gets in and steals the show like he can. Guys like these 2 are great for the game. Classy and hardworking. They are the future of rugby and South African rugby.

**Bad Company** · 07-04-2009, 12:51 PM

Lions really kept SA shut out in that match, thought SA might have got back into it before that intercept. But that was it.

**El Capitano Gatisto** · 07-04-2009, 02:40 PM

Good series, good match for the Lions to end on. It was closely fought and 3 great games to watch.

Unlike the NZ series which was abysmal.

**Bad Company** · 07-04-2009, 09:42 PM

Fuck yeah, absolutely horrible rugby. Pretty happy we've got mccaw, soialo, sivivatu back for the tri-nations. But still missing a decent 10.

**Sting Fan** · 07-05-2009, 09:55 PM

Not a bad Lions tour I feel.

However a few brits talking up the Lions now and havent they only won 2 tests in the last 3 tours?

Not knocking them but the writers, I even saw a pommie column claiming the lions were more relevant to world rugby than any national team.

**Team Sheep** · 07-10-2009, 07:49 AM

Watched the Lions game in Tenerife, and what a great performance. A very enjoyable tour over all, and definetely brought some pride back to the jersey after the New Zealand debacle.

**WestNZ** · 07-14-2009, 08:05 PM

That stupid SAF coach, sayiong that eye gouging was a part of a contact sport. I feel like going up to that stupid fuck and raking his eyes and we will see if he is still saying that afterwards.

**Sting Fan** · 07-16-2009, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestNZ

That stupid SAF coach, sayiong that eye gouging was a part of a contact sport. I feel like going up to that stupid fuck and raking his eyes and we will see if he is still saying that afterwards.

I always pictured you as a bit of an eye gougher mark, anything to get the job done lol

**Gray** · 07-17-2009, 02:47 PM

Ow?

**Bad Company** · 07-17-2009, 08:27 PM

Huge test match tonight. NZ vs Aus, NZ has been doing it tough in their last 3 matches, while the aussies have looked well structured, but certainly not their best form.
NZ hasn't lost to Aus at Eden park since the 80s, so would be nice to keep that record up.
I say NZ by 2.

**Team Sheep** · 07-17-2009, 08:40 PM

I hate Australian commentators, adding their sound effects to everything. It's like listening to fan zone.

**Team Sheep** · 07-17-2009, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company

Huge test match tonight. NZ vs Aus, NZ has been doing it tough in their last 3 matches, while the aussies have looked well structured, but certainly not their best form.
NZ hasn't lost to Aus at Eden park since the 80s, so would be nice to keep that record up.
I say NZ by 2.

Be interesting to see if NZ can keep it together. Should be a hell of a game.

**Bad Company** · 07-18-2009, 12:37 PM

Owned em, especially around the ruck and maul.

Richie McCaw is GOD.

**Bad Company** · 07-25-2009, 12:43 PM

Fucking pathetic, I'm looking at you Jason Eaton, go back to club rugby.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 07-26-2009, 02:21 PM

Heinrich Brussouw is THE NEXT BIG THING w00t

**Team Sheep** · 07-28-2009, 10:40 AM

England get the 2015 World Cup and Japan get 2019.

**Team Sheep** · 07-28-2009, 10:43 AM

England will be using Anfield, Old Trafford, St James' Park, St Mary's and the Emirates stadiums among others. That's pretty cool.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-01-2009, 01:18 PM

All Blacks= outclassed? I think so.

**Bad Company** · 08-01-2009, 02:23 PM

We can't even pass, catch, and kick the ball.
lol @ 8 penalties though, bring back the ELVs

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-01-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company

We can't even pass, catch, and kick the ball.
lol @ 8 penalties though, bring back the ELVs

Sour grapes. the penalties came from pressure.

**Team Sheep** · 08-01-2009, 08:26 PM

Fucking hell New Zealand.

South Africans are the best chasers in the world.

**Sting Fan** · 08-01-2009, 08:48 PM

Gotta hand it to the Boks they are getting the wins, and at the end of the day thats what counts.

Lots of talent in that ABs squad but fuck all composure atm. Wallabies vs. Boks will be interesting.

I havent seen Fixtures for the Tri nations this year, are the Boks coming to NZ? Because away games are the ones you gotta win to win the comp.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-02-2009, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sting Fan

Gotta hand it to the Boks they are getting the wins, and at the end of the day thats what counts.

Lots of talent in that ABs squad but fuck all composure atm. Wallabies vs. Boks will be interesting.

I havent seen Fixtures for the Tri nations this year, are the Boks coming to NZ? Because away games are the ones you gotta win to win the comp.

They'll be away from home. I agree with what you're saying but at the same time they prevented New Zealand from getting any bonus points, so all they'll need is to lose within 7 and not allow NZ to score 4 tries in a win, and they have it won. In saying that, the Boks still have to deal with the Wallabies.

**Sting Fan** · 08-03-2009, 05:40 AM

Yeah watching the news tonight amongst all the fire henry crap I had a quiet thought to myself about bonus points.

Even one point from the republic tour might have made a massive difference.

A bit of emotion behind Aus to with Deans dad dying, might hurt them disrupted buildup etc, or it might stiffen there resolve a bit.

You can never tell with the bloody aussies.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-08-2009, 03:34 PM

Dusted them Aussies, good times

**Bad Company** · 08-08-2009, 04:13 PM

So boring, you guys remind me of the 2003 English side.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-08-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company

So boring, you guys remind me of the 2003 English side.

And you remind me of any poor NZ side... a bunch of whiney p33ns.

Gameplans are gameplans man. They put pressure on the opposition defensively, they force them to make errors, they dominate posession and lineouts and they take their points.

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-08-2009, 05:58 PM

And I don't know maybe it's the tight forward in me, but I see nothing wrong with winning based on raw physicallity.

**Bad Company** · 08-08-2009, 07:40 PM

Boring

**Ol Dirty Dastard** · 08-09-2009, 01:50 AM

pwnage

**Sting Fan** · 08-09-2009, 10:06 PM

It is boring as bat shit, but winning is winning.

Cant deny that.

**Team Sheep** · 08-09-2009, 10:10 PM

This Tri Nations has been boring as fuck as a neutral. But credit to SA, they know how to win games. It's weird, they just sort of run away with games without you even noticing. You just know after about 20 minutes in they're not going to lose.

**Bad Company** · 08-10-2009, 12:28 AM

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/a...ins-All-Blacks

Carter back for NZ

Also, his girlfriend Honor Dillon is smokin'

**Sting Fan** · 08-10-2009, 05:55 AM

I dont know if he will make that much of a difference, although he had a few good dabs for the Cantabs the other night.

Just seems like theres to much other stuff were not doing right. However sometimes one thing going right that wasnt has a flow on effect.

And like the guy or not (I dont) hes got ice in his veins, maybe that coolness under pressure will rub off on a few others.

**Bad Company** · 08-10-2009, 07:59 PM

Yeah, we need new coaches, but it's too late now, we gave our best coach to Aussie.

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06-30-2009, 02:02 PM	#121
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	Bastereaud is in a mental hospital lol, what an idiot

06-30-2009, 07:53 PM	#123
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	LOL man I hate Peter De Villiers as a coach, and even kind of as a person. But I will say one thing about him, he is a funny (unintentionally so) fucker credit this to rugbyrugby.com Rugby Rugby's Jan de Koning takes a look at the strained relationship between Springbok coach Peter de Villiers and the media, as well as his often used muddled and synesthetic metaphors. Love him or hate him, Springbok coach Peter de Villiers is a colourful character. At Monday's media gathering at the South African team's hotel the Bok coach was at his most entertaining (or irritating, depending on your view) best. There is no doubt De Villiers has a strained relationship with the media and, despite his public utterances to the contrary, he does read and care what they say about him. How else would you explain his numerous public and private run-ins with members of the media. It is a fact that De Villiers declined the opportunity for 'media training' and elocution lessons - which could smooth over his relationship with the media. He has also declined to have a translator at his side at media gatherings, which would allow him to speak in his first language - Afrikaans. This is common practice for many teams - like the French and Argentineans. Having had the 'privilege' to be at a media conference conducted mainly in Afrikaans, it is easy to see how much more comfortable he is when speaking in his first language. The same applies when you have a one-on-one interview with him. You sometimes get the idea that De Villiers deliberately provokes the media with his muddled speech. He appears to enjoy the attention and the reaction he gets. He is fond of his metaphors, but as members of the press corps have suggested, you often need to decipher De Villiers. However, this week he will have to explain himself in a private conversation with South African Rugby Union President Oregan Hoskins - the very man that once famously said De Villiers was appointed for "reasons other than rugby". It has been suggested that this conversation, between Hoskins and De Villiers, will not be a serious ticking off, maybe just a quiet chat to pull the Bok mentor back in line and give him some "guidance". The sad part is that the South African media has not been nearly as brutal in portraying De Villiers in a bad light as has been the case with the international media - especially this week when they have jumped at the opportunity to portray him as a person who condones eye-gouging. The problem is that, because of his limited linguistics skills when speaking English, he fails to get his message across to members of the international media - who don't have the same insight into his confused grammatical ways. I know, as an Afrikaans speaking person, exactly how easy it is to get it wrong. But it is De Villiers's choice to decline training and, as a result, he must bear the consequences. But back to Monday's comedy show - or media ruck - when the British and Irish press tried their utmost to provoke the Bok mentor. At times they succeeded. You can't recreate the atmosphere and the buzz every time De Villiers said something strange or confusing. What we will do is put in print a few of his best metaphoric attempts at answering media questions and hopefully the readers will also be entertained - or irritated, again depending on your view. Here are a few of De Villiers' most entertaining answers: Asked about the prevalence and increased incidents of eye gouging around the world: De Villiers: "I'm against anything that's not in the spirit of the game, anything. We won't go to that lows of being negative, in such a positive game that we have. We've got brilliant players in this country, they are world class, most of them. To try and even prepare them to do little small things that belong outside in the Bushveld - if we want eye gouge any Lion we will go down to the Bushveld, then we eye gouge them and see if we can outrun them or they haul us in. But we will never, never encourage anybody to be part of negative or anything that brings the game into disrepute." De Villiers was asked, repeatedly, whether he still feels that flank Schalk Burger was not guilty of eye gouging. He was also asked if he had seen the TV evidence: De Villiers: "Schalk's nature and character is - if you know the man like I know him - he won't ever ... he is too physical, he is more physical than any player in the world - to go to that kind of message to show he is the boss on the rugby field. He will never, ever do it and I don't think he did it, but we stand and abide by what's happened there [at the judiciary]. So eye gouging is something that we as a team, and especially me, will definitely - as biting, as head butting, as spear tackling, all those things that don't belong in the game. We want to promote this game amongst our youth, we want everybody to see how passionate we are about this game and we want to bring that passion about in our country. We want this game to be the biggest nation-building tool that there ever can be and by encouraging stuff like that we will be fighting a lost cause - so, I will never, ever be part of something like that. I'm telling you, I watched the TV footage, I'm not saying anything - because it is against what we decided as a team. I watched the TV footage and I am still convinced there was nothing that he went on purpose - when he saw the footage it was something that he was 'yoh' [taken aback], but he never meant to go into anybody's eye. I abide by what we said and will wait for the report." Asked if he thought stiffer penalties will discourage acts like these - also spear tackling: De Villiers: "I'm part of this lovely game and I'm very honoured to be part of this lovely game and there are some things I will enhance while I'm part of this lovely game - negativity is not one of those things. I don't make the laws, I don't write the books, about [the length of] sentences, I only abide by them. I don't appoint judicial officers, I don't always agree with them, but then again I'm part of the system and if you can't work within the system, if you want to have your own system, create your own world. So, there's a lot of things that I don't like in life, but while I'm part of this world I have to adjust to make it work." Asked how he thought Burger's fingers make contact with Fitzgerald's eye: De Villiers: "Some of us have a hearing problem. I said, that we stand as a group by what the team said - we are waiting for report and if the report comes out and by any means says that Schalk is guilty of eye gouging then we just have to abide by that. I believe it won't be the case, but we stand by that. We are waiting for the report and then I can answer your questions, I can't give you any answer without the report. [It was then suggested he was ducking the issue]: I'm not ducking the issue. It is just that I am working in the system, I'm not like you [the media] that have no system, you can work wherever you want to work. We are working in a system where we wait until the report has been tabled, then we will react. We are waiting for the report se we can dissect it word for word and then come to you with an informed answer and then we don't misunderstand each other again." Asked if he had spoken to Burger about the incident: De Villiers: "We are not cross with each other. We sat down at breakfast this morning, we sat down last night until 12.12 [just after midnight Sunday] waiting for them to finish [at the hearing]. So, ja, I have spoken to him and as I expected, he is an honourable man. If you take him way from rugby he will be the best person to have him around you." Asked, based on his statement that Burger is an honourable man, if he felt that would be strong enough to overturn an appeal: De Villiers: "What we must understand here, very, very clearly, is rugby is a contact sport and so is dancing. So guys who can't take it, make the decision. If you guys are really clued up with this game, there was so much incidents that we can say we want to cite this guy for maliciously jumping into a guy's face with his shoulder and stuff like that ... why didn't we do it? The reason why we don't do stuff like that is this game will always be a game to us and sometimes you get away with things that you don't even mean - sometimes you make decisions that's right and wrong and you get away with it and we are so part, and honoured to be part of it. If we are going to win games in boardrooms and in front of television cameras like this and think we should go shop and say to ourselves, do we really respect this game that we really honour so much and the passion we have for it - do we really want to be part of it. And if this case that we are going on now, why don't we all go to the nearest ballet shop, get some nice tutus, get a great dancing show going on - no eye gouging, no tackling, no nothing and then we'll enjoy it. But in this game there will be collisions and the guy who wins the collision the hardest, that's the guy we will always select. And if we are going to make it soft and we won a Test series and people don't like it, I can't do anything about it." Asked about criticism from the South African media and suggestions that he (De Villiers) is the weakest link in the Bok team: De Villiers: "I'm not disappointed with them [the media]. Everybody in life has an opinion. I don't react to opinions, I react on fact. If people think I am the weakest link, then we are bloody strong! I didn't know about the perception, and I do not even have time to think about it. I know myself that I am a God-given talent. I am the best ever that I can be, so whatever you think about me doesn't bother me. I know what I am, and I don't give a damn." On the suggestion - from the Lions management - that the Springboks were lucky to win the first two Tests: De Villiers: "I always describe lucky as getting into a bar and somebody hits you and misses, that's lucky. But if there's 80 minutes to play a game in and you at the end of the day look at the scoreboard and you are ahead, I think that is character more than luck. So people would say that our luck gives a new dimension to character."

06-30-2009, 08:24 PM	#124
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	lol fuck he's an idiot.

06-30-2009, 08:32 PM	#125
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	"I know myself that I am a god given talent". I'll say one thing, at least he'll be one of Rugby's unique characters, to say the least. Too bad he doesn't know how to coach in a game. Also, shouldn't Heiny Brussouw be starting over Burger anyways, regardless of eye gouge or not. And shouldn't Dewald Potgeiter be starting? I don't get it. I mean an international squad should be a team of players who are on form, not players who are of the old guard, just because they've been there. Dewald Potgeiter right now, is a better flank than Juan Smith, and Heinrich Brussouw is better than Schalk Burger.

06-30-2009, 08:42 PM	#126
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	The thing is with Potgeiter and Brussouw are those are two guys who don't focus on all that filthy bullshit that a Schalk Burger does. I'll never doubt Schalky's commitment but he is just too focusd on being "That" goon. It takes away from his game. Also, the physical style he plays has cuahgt up to him if you ask me. He's still a workhorse and he's still phenomenal but there's no doubt he's lost a step and doesn't QUITE have the same impact he used to. In Potgeiter and Brussouw you have two guys that can flatout CHANGE a match. If you don't belive me, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Brussouw has 3 performances against the lions already where he essentially dominated them. Turnover ball all game. He almost got the cheetahs a win, in the first test the boks weren't the same when he came off, and when he came on in the last 20 minutes with Morne Steyn, the entire match changed. He got 3 KEY turnovers in 20 minutes, it was un fucking believable. As far as Potgeiter, the guy is just unreal. Not the biggest (much like Broussouw) even though he's about 220 pounds. He is however the definition of workhorse, he's all over the field, he makes try saving tackles, he takes ANYONE on, he's a natural born leader. The effort he put in against the chiefs in the S14 finals was unholy. As far as I was concerned he deserved a spot on the Boks after that match. And then the Emerging Boks drawing the lions was another story. He completely led his team from the front. It was unbelievable, I don't there was a passage of 1 minute where you didn't see him involved. Now Heiny's got a start pending, and Dewald is on the bench for the Boks. Both should have been starting in the first place. I'm hoping Dewald gets in and steals the show like he can. Guys like these 2 are great for the game. Classy and hardworking. They are the future of rugby and South African rugby.

07-04-2009, 12:51 PM	#127
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Lions really kept SA shut out in that match, thought SA might have got back into it before that intercept. But that was it.

07-04-2009, 02:40 PM	#128
El Capitano Gatisto World Class Raconteur Posts: 29,478	Good series, good match for the Lions to end on. It was closely fought and 3 great games to watch. Unlike the NZ series which was abysmal.

07-04-2009, 09:42 PM	#129
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Fuck yeah, absolutely horrible rugby. Pretty happy we've got mccaw, soialo, sivivatu back for the tri-nations. But still missing a decent 10.

07-05-2009, 09:55 PM	#130
Sting Fan Blander Than Ever Posts: 3,092	Not a bad Lions tour I feel. However a few brits talking up the Lions now and havent they only won 2 tests in the last 3 tours? Not knocking them but the writers, I even saw a pommie column claiming the lions were more relevant to world rugby than any national team.

07-10-2009, 07:49 AM	#131
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	Watched the Lions game in Tenerife, and what a great performance. A very enjoyable tour over all, and definetely brought some pride back to the jersey after the New Zealand debacle.

07-17-2009, 02:47 PM	#134
Gray Posts: 743	Ow?

07-14-2009, 08:05 PM	#132
WestNZ Der Metzgermeister Posts: 601	That stupid SAF coach, sayiong that eye gouging was a part of a contact sport. I feel like going up to that stupid fuck and raking his eyes and we will see if he is still saying that afterwards.

07-17-2009, 08:27 PM	#135
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Huge test match tonight. NZ vs Aus, NZ has been doing it tough in their last 3 matches, while the aussies have looked well structured, but certainly not their best form. NZ hasn't lost to Aus at Eden park since the 80s, so would be nice to keep that record up. I say NZ by 2.

07-17-2009, 08:40 PM	#136
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	I hate Australian commentators, adding their sound effects to everything. It's like listening to fan zone.

07-18-2009, 12:37 PM	#138
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Owned em, especially around the ruck and maul. Richie McCaw is GOD.

07-25-2009, 12:43 PM	#139
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Fucking pathetic, I'm looking at you Jason Eaton, go back to club rugby.

07-26-2009, 02:21 PM	#140
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	Heinrich Brussouw is THE NEXT BIG THING w00t

07-28-2009, 10:40 AM	#141
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	England get the 2015 World Cup and Japan get 2019.

07-28-2009, 10:43 AM	#142
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	England will be using Anfield, Old Trafford, St James' Park, St Mary's and the Emirates stadiums among others. That's pretty cool.

08-01-2009, 01:18 PM	#143
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	All Blacks= outclassed? I think so.

08-01-2009, 02:23 PM	#144
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	We can't even pass, catch, and kick the ball. lol @ 8 penalties though, bring back the ELVs

08-01-2009, 08:26 PM	#146
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	Fucking hell New Zealand. South Africans are the best chasers in the world.

08-01-2009, 08:48 PM	#147
Sting Fan Blander Than Ever Posts: 3,092	Gotta hand it to the Boks they are getting the wins, and at the end of the day thats what counts. Lots of talent in that ABs squad but fuck all composure atm. Wallabies vs. Boks will be interesting. I havent seen Fixtures for the Tri nations this year, are the Boks coming to NZ? Because away games are the ones you gotta win to win the comp.

08-03-2009, 05:40 AM	#149
Sting Fan Blander Than Ever Posts: 3,092	Yeah watching the news tonight amongst all the fire henry crap I had a quiet thought to myself about bonus points. Even one point from the republic tour might have made a massive difference. A bit of emotion behind Aus to with Deans dad dying, might hurt them disrupted buildup etc, or it might stiffen there resolve a bit. You can never tell with the bloody aussies.

08-08-2009, 03:34 PM	#150
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	Dusted them Aussies, good times

08-08-2009, 04:13 PM	#151
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	So boring, you guys remind me of the 2003 English side.

08-08-2009, 05:58 PM	#153
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	And I don't know maybe it's the tight forward in me, but I see nothing wrong with winning based on raw physicallity.

08-08-2009, 07:40 PM	#154
Bad Company Mad Posts: 26,228	Boring

08-09-2009, 01:50 AM	#155
Ol Dirty Dastard boop/bop/beep Posts: 38,430	pwnage

08-09-2009, 10:06 PM	#156
Sting Fan Blander Than Ever Posts: 3,092	It is boring as bat shit, but winning is winning. Cant deny that.

08-09-2009, 10:10 PM	#157
Team Sheep T�m Defaid Posts: 6,646	This Tri Nations has been boring as fuck as a neutral. But credit to SA, they know how to win games. It's weird, they just sort of run away with games without you even noticing. You just know after about 20 minutes in they're not going to lose.