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Old 07-30-2007, 12:05 AM   #2041
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So apparently Jose Canseco is going to bring to light A-Rod's history of steroid use in his latest book. LOL, yessssssssssssssssssssssss

OH JOSE!

What if any insight would he have on Arod?

I think (unless he really does have something) he should stay quiet
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:53 AM   #2042
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All the other people he "outed" or whatever were teammates so not sure what he could really know or talk about.


"The last time Jose Canseco put pen to paper, all of baseball quaked.

He promises to do it again - and this time he says he'll have something to say about Alex Rodriguez. Canseco, who wrote "Juiced," his 2005 book detailing his use of steroids with Mark McGwire, Juan Gonzalez, Rafael Palmeiro, Pudge Rodriguez and others, says he has another book in the works, due this fall.

He told Boston's WEEI Radio on Friday that he had "other stuff" on A-Rod that will be coming out. When asked directly if Rodriguez had used steroids, Canseco replied: "Wait and see."

Rodriguez cut off a question about Canseco's comments yesterday after being asked in Baltimore if he had heard the former slugger's words, saying, "Nope, I haven't. And I have no comment."

As the Daily News first reported, Canseco took his turn before former Sen. George Mitchell last year, giving up names and making an offer to help Mitchell in his investigation into steroid use in baseball.

"Until someone like Jose is part of the investigation as an investigator, they aren't going to get much cooperation," Canseco's attorney, Rob Saunooke, told The News then. "Jose could meet face-to-face with some of the individuals, use his own friendship with them and knowledge of them and talk with them comfortably. If Jose sits down face-to-face with you and reminds you of all the good times, then he says, 'It's time for us to come clean with these things.'"

Saunooke did not reveal the additional names Canseco gave investigators, but said his client also named front-office people who may have had knowledge of steroid use in the game. The interview was "just to detail more about what he's already put in the book, from a player participation level, but also managers, trainers, administrators, or people who would have known or been apprised of what was going on," Saunooke said. "



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...f_on_arod.html


LOL, really seems like he's just trying to build up his book any way he can by mentioning A-Rod. I think A-Rod is too self-conscious of his own image and how other people see him to take steroids. Obviously I wouldn't be incredibly surprised to hear anyone taking steroids though.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:22 AM   #2043
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I don't think A-Rod was on roids but like Dragon said, nobody would shock me.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:48 AM   #2044
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I don't think A-Rod was on roids but like Dragon said, nobody would shock me.
A-Rod has roid RAGE about every other WEEK, so it wouldn't surprise me, either.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:28 AM   #2045
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Tampa's move to improve their bullpen in the last two trades shows that a team can make the proper improvements at the trade deadline even when they aren't in the race.

I'm quite certain I've mentioned it before, that it's my opinion that if the DRays can improve heir pitching starter and relief they will be the team of the future in the AL East.
I agree. I thought they might be a surprise team to make some noise this year. But in a division with 3 500+ teams (2 of which are the twop 2 Franchises in the AL historically) they usually get lost in the shuffle. If they can keep Crawford, they have a really nice core in the field and at bat. Upton finally found a spot, and it looks like they have locked down their infield (Iwamura/Pena/HArris/Upton) not the best but a decent INF. Then in the ourfield Young is going to be an All Star, Crawford is a top notch 5 tool player, and they have Rocco and Dukes in CF. They have some nice pieces to trade too. I would send Baldelli away for a Bottom of the Rotation starter.

If they keep developing prospects the way they do, and if they can just lock down a few key contracts and put a little more money in, they could be the Next Florida Marlins Circa 2003.

On a side note, I used to Love Pena with Oakland/Detroit, I thought he was the next big thing, Im glad to see him finally get his chance.
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ESPN reporting that the deal is done. Mark Texeira and Ron Mahay to Atlanta. Jarod Saltalamacchia and 3 minor leaguers to Texas.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:18 PM   #2047
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Mets reportedly really interested in Luis Castillo.

Fuck no. He has 14 extra base hits all season and Ruben Gotay is hitting like Ted Williams.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:14 PM   #2049
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ESPN reporting that the deal is done. Mark Texeira and Ron Mahay to Atlanta. Jarod Saltalamacchia and 3 minor leaguers to Texas.
Damn, I have heard good things about Saltalamacchia, but hell, Texas isnt getting much for Teixiera in a Sellers market.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:14 PM   #2050
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Normally I'd be all for Luis Castillo but Goat has been one of my favorite players this year and is not even playing every day for some reason.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:21 PM   #2051
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Gotay is admittedly balls against lefties...but that's what Easley is for.

Gotay/Easley platoon > Castillo
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Everyone always says "Oh Jose is just trying to get attention" but he is yet to be wrong about an accusation
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About ARod, I wouldn't be surprised at all, and that's not just because I hate him. When he got to the Rangers these guys were on the team: Pudge Rodriguez, Rafael Palmeiro, Ruben Sierra, Randy Velarde, Juan Gonzalez and Ken Caminiti. So there was obviously rampant steroid use when he got to that team, not that that makes him guilty but I've always thought this squeaky clean image he tries to convey is total bullshit.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:16 PM   #2054
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I'm not disputing Jose, I'm just saying I hope he isn't just trying to capture more attention. I mean, why wouldn't he have told all in the first book? Part of me is skeptical but I know that he's the one that had the last laugh last time around. Plus, it's not like he's saying ARod is on juice, he hasn't said what he's "got" on ARod so we're all a bit speculative here.

I can totally see this book pointing fingers at the managers, trainers, etc.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:23 PM   #2055
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If the Braves can land a starter from somewhere, I'll be happy with this trade deadline.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:33 PM   #2056
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I agree. I thought they might be a surprise team to make some noise this year. But in a division with 3 500+ teams (2 of which are the twop 2 Franchises in the AL historically) they usually get lost in the shuffle. If they can keep Crawford, they have a really nice core in the field and at bat. Upton finally found a spot, and it looks like they have locked down their infield (Iwamura/Pena/HArris/Upton) not the best but a decent INF. Then in the ourfield Young is going to be an All Star, Crawford is a top notch 5 tool player, and they have Rocco and Dukes in CF. They have some nice pieces to trade too. I would send Baldelli away for a Bottom of the Rotation starter.

If they keep developing prospects the way they do, and if they can just lock down a few key contracts and put a little more money in, they could be the Next Florida Marlins Circa 2003.

On a side note, I used to Love Pena with Oakland/Detroit, I thought he was the next big thing, Im glad to see him finally get his chance.
I think Dukes was DFA'ed.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:59 PM   #2057
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After losing 4 top prospects to get Tex, the Braves are also about to snag Dotel apparently
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Well Jose claims that 85% of baseball is on roids so obviously he couldn't have included every player in the first book. Tejada, Giambi, McGwire, Juan Gon and Pudge was a nice start. I'm just hoping eventually he, or someone, gets to Clemens
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:03 PM   #2059
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Well good 'ol Jose has got himself a great second carreer going on now
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:06 PM   #2061
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I'm sure the managers are on roids as well.
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After losing 4 top prospects to get Tex, the Braves are also about to snag Dotel apparently



I just hope Tex works out for us and we won't be regretting this trade years from now.

Although I'm sure we can get those guys back in 4-5 years knowing the Rangers.
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Old 07-30-2007, 04:27 PM   #2063
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Mets got Castillo.....but as it turns out they gave up basically nothing for him so it's all good
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lol the Phillies traded for Kyle Lohse. He is 2-9 with a 6.42 ERA on the road this year. Should be pretty money come crunch time eh?
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:57 PM   #2065
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Teixieria and Dotel (soon enough) should hand the Braves the NL East.

I like the deal for Texas, Saltalamalalatalachilamachia is gonna be a beast soon.
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Salty could be good, but he wasn't wowing me as much near the end of his stint. Such a small portion to really prove anything, but he his like 0-9 with the bases loaded.

Oh and the Dotel deal is supposedly for Kyle Davies...fine with me.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:27 PM   #2067
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Not really sure what the Phillies were thinking getting Kyle Lohse...but I like it.

In a way, the Castillo move really solidifies the Mets bench. Castillo will play everyday from the get-go I'm sure, but Gotay will still likely get his share of playing time.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:28 PM   #2068
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Dotel is kind of fragile but I think he'll be a good solution for Atlanta. Davies is no more than a #3 but he's pretty young so it's a deal I see working out for both sides, especially since the Royals have Joakim Soria who is lights out.
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Phillies were interested in Josh Towers but instead went and picked up Lohse or however you spell it. Kinda glad that Towers hasn't been moved (yet) He's been playing really well as of late and could regain his form. If he does, I'd like to see it done as a Jay rather than as a *insert team name here*
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Dotel is kind of fragile but I think he'll be a good solution for Atlanta. Davies is no more than a #3 but he's pretty young so it's a deal I see working out for both sides, especially since the Royals have Joakim Soria who is lights out.
Soria wants to be a starter. Read a good article on the guy in SI earlier this year. Might be Grienke that becomes the Royals closer.
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I wouldn't have much faith in Towers. He has below average stuff and can't spot his pitches. He needs serious work.
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Soria wants to be a starter. Read a good article on the guy in SI earlier this year. Might be Grienke that becomes the Royals closer.
Either way it works. Soria or Greinke both have the ability to close or start. I don't know what to make of Greinke in either situation, however. He's a good pitcher with a really high ceiling but he's a big time head case. I don't know if he has the closer mentality, though it's not like he's in a big pressure city or anything.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:32 PM   #2073
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He can spot his pitches, that's the problem though. He fell apart because he was actually pitching too many strikes. A pitcher has to use the inside/outside of his plate against a batter. He's no Maddux, but that the mold *of* he comes from.

(speaking of Towers)
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You're right, especially since I looked at the guy's walk totals (never walked more than 29 in a season, ridiculous). Too many meatball strikes, not a power pitcher and can't work the corners.
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Lohse is a pitcher that can give you 12 K's one start then the next start give up 6 earned runs in 1 inning.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:53 PM   #2076
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I read the Yanks, Tigers. Red Sox, and the Mets are now the favorites to get Gagne. I read if the Yankees get Gagne they will get rid of Proctor and Farnsworth.
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Gagne has to approve any trade. He wishes to be a closer, so teams like Boston and NYY really aren't going to get him.
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Gonna make a guess here and say that the Mets gave up 1 or more white players in order to acquire Hispanic Luis Castillo.
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True, in Boston and NYY he will be in Relief. However they say that the Tigers would use him as a closer and either trade Jones or move him to Relief
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The Braves got Tex that the Phillies and Mets made quick deals to improve shortly afterwards. This will be an interesting race. What hurts the Phillies though is Utleys injury.
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