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Old 09-17-2008, 01:50 PM   #1
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He didn't even fall like he got punched.. He grabbed his eye and slowly fell..

It in no way shape of form looked like a knock out.. It looked like an eye poke, even at full speed when it happened..

After the fact, like 30 second after Mazzagotti called it, it was exposed what happened.. At that point they should have given Johnson the 5 minutes and continued the fight or gfiven him the TKO victory..

And Fabien, you making it out like Johnson is being petty makes you look like a huge asshole.. He was nothing but a complete class act the night it happened and has continued to act accordingly since.. It was a horrid call and he in no way shape or form lost that fight.. He got poked in the eye several times, the last one bad enough to cause him to need surgery, and he loses the fight over it.. Nothing about that is right..
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He didn't even fall like he got punched.. He grabbed his eye and slowly fell..

It in no way shape of form looked like a knock out.. It looked like an eye poke, even at full speed when it happened..

After the fact, like 30 second after Mazzagotti called it, it was exposed what happened.. At that point they should have given Johnson the 5 minutes and continued the fight or gfiven him the TKO victory..

And Fabien, you making it out like Johnson is being petty makes you look like a huge asshole.. He was nothing but a complete class act the night it happened and has continued to act accordingly since.. It was a horrid call and he in no way shape or form lost that fight.. He got poked in the eye several times, the last one bad enough to cause him to need surgery, and he loses the fight over it.. Nothing about that is right..
I wouldn't say he is being petty but Johnson has accepted the loss so let's move on. It wasn't a horrid call at all. And you can't call a decision and then go to a replay and then restart the fight. It's bullshit.
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And Fabien, you making it out like Johnson is being petty makes you look like a huge asshole.. He was nothing but a complete class act the night it happened and has continued to act accordingly since.. It was a horrid call and he in no way shape or form lost that fight.. He got poked in the eye several times, the last one bad enough to cause him to need surgery, and he loses the fight over it.. Nothing about that is right..

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That's why there needs to be a secondary ref watching monitors for illegal moves and whatnot..

Just as I said earlier..
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You Americans are obsessed with fucking replays and more referees

Seriously though, there ain't two refs in boxing or an instant replay and that sport has been going for over 100 years. This was one mistake in one fight. Humour error is part of life and should be part of sport.
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Seriously though, there ain't two refs in boxing or an instant replay and that sport has been going for over 100 years. This was one mistake in one fight. Humour error is part of life and should be part of sport.
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Us Americans are constantly trying to evolve the rules and whatnot to take away the human error factor of sports..

Boxing is a dead sport while MMA is constantly growing and evolving..
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Is there an Ultimate Fighter 8 thread at all?/Is there any video links to the eps (we don't get them in Australia)
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I made a thread about it in the movies/tv forum..

Check MMAturf.net (cheap plug) for the videos as I'm sure they'll have it..
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No Episode one yet but they did get the whole Season 1 reunion show up..

http://mmaturf.net/dev/smf/index.php/topic,2100.0.html
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You are a faggot who act way too much like a know it all tough guy..

I know you "don't care" how you come across but I'm just giving you a heads up..
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You are a stupid fat nugget who tries far too hard to be a cool kid on an internet forum, and you still come across like a fat nerd with no friends.

Shit does happen. You are exibit A.

Lets keep it on topic shall we pork pie? I have no desire to ever address you directly.
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Ultimate Fighter Season 9 - USA vs UK announced

During the broadcast of last nights Fight Night 15 event in Omaha Nebraska, the details of the ninth season of the “Ultimate Fighter” reality series were released, and a huge surprise was in store.

The season, which is due to air early next year, will pit welterweights and middleweights against each other as teams of US and UK fighters battle it out to decide who will be the next breakthrough star.

Early reports suggest that UK middleweight Michael Bisping could be lined up to coach the UK team against a top American middleweight, with the winner gaining a title shot at the end of 2009.

By Michael Pepper.
Switching it up a little bit..

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Mark Coleman roid raging after that last loss to Fedor in Pride..

Funny but sad..
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Some people are gonna be humbled after the next TUF season. Either we'll find out Britain has some legit fighters here (other than Bisping) or we'll get humbled.

I'm thinking the former. At BJJ last night, the coaches were already talking up the idea of intense training for a couple of guys for try outs. And there aren't many better submission guys out there right now than Roger Gracie.
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Some people are gonna be humbled after the next TUF season. Either we'll find out Britain has some legit fighters here (other than Bisping) or we'll get humbled.

I'm thinking the former. At BJJ last night, the coaches were already talking up the idea of intense training for a couple of guys for try outs. And there aren't many better submission guys out there right now than Roger Gracie.

Just to follow up on the whole concept, we all know Bisping is rumored to be the Team UK coach if he gets through Leban, the rumored coach for the US is Dan Hendo Henderson.

Personally I can't see Bisping out coaching Hollywood Henderson.
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I don't feel sorry for him at all.. He knew what weight he'd be fighting at and still came in that out of shape.. He should've been cutting weight the weeks coming into it knowing that he'd fight within the first 48 hours of being there..
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Yeah it wasn't like any of the guys were in the dark about fighting onto the show this season

The weird looking guy was right, he should have been sleeping in his sauna suit. No excuse for that.

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I love Clay and prolly would've been a fan of his too, but I can not respect someone who knows this is their only shot and is in a position that thousands of other guys wish they were in, only to throw it away by not being properly prepared..

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None of the fighters were told they'd be fighting to get into the house. They were however told to make sure they were at a certain weight before they showed up and apparently Jason Guida was at that weight. Bottom line is he just didn't cut the weight.

I am kinda interested to see how Tom Lawlor does on the show.
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Is he light heavy or lightweight?
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That's bullshit, Rob..

They said during season 7 that every season from then on, you were going to have to fight your way into the house.. He is a 205 fighter who came in double digits overweight..
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How is it bullshit? They were not told they would be fighting to get in the house. They weren't told they wouldn't be either. Tom Lawlor said on BTR this week he wasn't told he was fighting and Jason Guida also said he wasn't told. They should have known though but they still weren't told.

And your math is fucked dude. Guida weighed in 2lbs overweight. 1lbs officially. Other fighters came into the gym 10lbs+ overweight but they cut it. Guida didn't and that's the bottom line. I don't give a fuck if they walk in the building 50lbs overweight and then make weight. You know you have to make weight and some guys are better at it than others. In his defence, you also get two attempts to weigh in for a fight in Nevada and he only got one attempt. Technically he was pulled from fighting and not because he didn't make weight. Also technically Gomi vs. Diaz was a no contest but we all know what really happened.
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Diaz smokes the weed..

He was 11lbs over when he first started cutting.. Dude also I don't care how much over they come in if they can make the weight.. He dug his own grave by coming in over and not being able to.. He is a 205lbs fighter and should have showed up closer to that weight.. The fact that he didn't is what ultimately caused him to leave.. Pretty much threw away an opportunity thousands of guys would die for.. They might not have been specifically told, but last season Dana White made it crystal clear that he was tried of guys quitting and whatnot so they were gonna have to fight their way onto the show from there on out..

Atleast it was clear to me, even if Jason Guida didn't "get it"..
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Clearer to me too. Just stating the facts.

Here's another one - Jason Guida = Fucking idiot! Oh and he has signed with EliteXC. Seriously!
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lol

Where had he fought before cause guys were saying he was a good fighter before Season 8, but I had never seen him..
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For the record, Bobby Southworth cut weight from 228lbs to 206lbs on season 1 and he won his fight. That's DOUBLE the amount of weight Guida had to cut.
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Yeah I was just thinking of Bobby reading an earlier post, 22 in a day and a half is crazy
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Well, KJ Noons was officially stripped of the WWEliteXC Diaz-weight Championship, for mainly not wanting to defend his title against Diaz.

Noons is an asshole for not fighting Diaz, regardless of the issues he has with the company (Paid ALOT less than Diaz, not being promoted as a star). But in the end he may come out as the winner of it all with this happening. I can see them putting Diaz in a fight with Yves Edwards, and I would laugh because it's the battle of two people Noons beat for the title they stripped him of. It makes a weak assed WWEliteXC look even worse, IMO.
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He was paid less because Diaz is a star and nobody outside of the hardcore fans has a clue who the hell KJ Noons is. He is a total homo for refusing the biggest fight of his life too. Fuck him. Best of luck in your boxing career pal. Don't get upset when the boxing people can't stand you either when you're pleady poverty with them.
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I dont care if he was winning the first fight with Diaz. If it wasnt stopped from a cut to his head, i'm positive Diaz would have knocked him out. Diaz can take a beating.
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It doesn't matter if he near killed him. The biggest fight out there for KJ Noons is a rematch with Nick Diaz. He refused the biggest fight of his career which would have been aired live on network TV. And he wonders why nobody knows him. Fucking idiot of a human being.
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