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Old 08-21-2021, 01:11 PM   #281
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Yes but he has literally said or done zero for months now I think.
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Old 08-21-2021, 01:18 PM   #282
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You know what isn't going to convince new/old fans to stick around? Orange Cassidy being treated seriously.
He beat Chris Jericho in a feud.

Which is fine if they’ve decided Jericho’s role is now an undercarder not to be taken seriously in anything high-profile anymore. But Jericho went on to be featured in a main event story line where he was meant to be taken seriously while Orange Cassidy kept doing meaningless undercard stuff.

They need to not do things like that. It’s reeks of WWE “wins and losses don’t matter” mentality.
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Old 08-21-2021, 03:55 PM   #283
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See I like Orange Cassidy and I agree with that. He did go on to challenge for the world title earlier in the year but other than that he’s been kept pretty much at his current spot. Which is just fine. He’s over, his merch is one of the top sellers, and he’s entertaining enough. And I think it’s fine if he’s occasionally elevated into a higher profile match here and there. But if they’re not going to pull the trigger on him and keep him up there instead of moving him back down to work with hits like the Blade and Matt Hardy’s stable then he shouldn’t be getting prominent wins over the guys higher up on the food chain, IMO.
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Old 08-21-2021, 05:15 PM   #284
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CM Punk's return is probably the most interesting thing to happen to pro wrestling in a good five or six years.

Seeing an arena filled up like that and it not being WWE made it feel HUGE as well.
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Old 08-21-2021, 05:43 PM   #285
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Watching the media scrum on YouTube from last night and other than Tony Khan looking every bit the goofy super excited fan boy you’d expect, which for me personally is endearing, and Punk looks genuinely happy to be there. I’m excited to see a motivated CM Punk in a company that allows the talent to have a big say in their character work.
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Old 08-21-2021, 06:34 PM   #286
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I just now today processed the jacket Tony Khan always wears has jaguars on it...how did it take me this long lol
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Old 08-21-2021, 06:36 PM   #287
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Finally getting to watch Rampage. I’ve rewound that ending sequence from the Jurassic Express v Private Party match a handful of times. That back suplex into a powerbomb is fucking amazing.

2.0 is so great at being shitheads in their promos. They come like shit bag 80s bullies and I love it. Moxley with a great promo.

I love AEW. Sorry not sorry.
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Old 08-21-2021, 06:36 PM   #288
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I just now today processed the jacket Tony Khan always wears has jaguars on it...how did it take me this long lol
Quicker than me lol
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Old 08-21-2021, 10:46 PM   #289
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Oh wow. I'm surprised they didn't mention this last night. It must have been surreal for Sting being up there.
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Old 08-21-2021, 10:47 PM   #290
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First rafter drop ^


Spring Stampede 2000. Was that the last time the Stinger was in the United Center up until last night?
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:09 PM   #291
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I think he mentions it in the post show promos.
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Old 08-21-2021, 11:12 PM   #292
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Old 08-22-2021, 12:50 AM   #293
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Watched Punk’s return 3 times now. Goddammit, wrestling needed that.
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Old 08-22-2021, 12:55 AM   #294
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I’ve probably seen it a dozen times now between the times I’ve rewatched it and the times my wife has. She said she even is going to get All Out to watch after we get back to the hotel from the event we’re going to earlier that night. I was and am still legit shocked by her further excitement and investment in AEW aftermath Punk’s return.
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Old 08-22-2021, 01:01 AM   #295
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I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve watched it. The media scrum was really good just getting some insight. I’d be stunned if they didn’t sell out the go home dynamite and rampage shows the week of All Out now that Punk is officially set to appear.
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Nerfect’s favorite person Cornette basically raved and gushed about Punk, his AEW debut and how Tony handled it. No wonder that hypocritical, pussy, bitch ass, moron Nerfect fled.
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Watched Punk’s return 3 times now. Goddammit, wrestling needed that.
Just about the most perfectly booked return I’ve ever seen. No fuckery, just letting a man learn to live the business again and giving the fans what they wanted.
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Oh shit. Didn’t think Cornette’s podcast would be out already. I was pretty sure he would rave about it. As much as he hates AEW, he doesn’t awkwardly try to come up with bullshit reasons to bitch about it. He’s not afraid to praise the good. And damn, that was good.
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Just about the most perfectly booked return I’ve ever seen. No fuckery, just letting a man learn to live the business again and giving the fans what they wanted.
Feel like if this was WWE, Elias would have come out to interrupt him or something.
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In fairness, I don’t always agree with Cornette, but I often do, and regardless, I can still enjoy the good (and even the bad) for what it is.
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Feel like if this was WWE, Elias would have come out to interrupt him or something.
Probably so and he’d be jobbing to the “bigger” stars and new/upcoming “stars” before it was remotely necessary or made any sense.
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I watched it Saturday morning and got goosebumps. That is what they talk about when they say there’s nothing like the thrill of a live crowd, that’s the thing that keeps these guys coming back for more (even when some of them shouldn’t). I’m taking everything as a genuine reaction from Punk; I imagine it could be quite overwhelming when you haven’t had that for 7 years - I can’t recall his UFC reactions but I’m sure that weren’t quite that!

I liked that he said all he needed to say about WWE without saying it. Lord knows we all know his feelings on his WWE run so why go over it again?

I put it on the TV last night to see my wife’s reaction. She literally said “WHAT!?” She had no idea what AEW was so I think she thought he’d returned to WWE which would explain the shock as she’s aware of the fallout. I got goosebumps again.

There’s some stuff about AEW I don’t like (one of your top prospects should not be taking that Canadian Destroyer as an example) but they’ve got me. They have 2 out of 3 of my Top 3 wrestlers of the last 20 years…and the third likely to debut in the next few weeks. I’m even looking at getting that Punk shirt. I spend £5 a month on wrestling (splitting WWE Network with a friend) and usually purchase the game every year (2K20 was the first year I haven’t bought the SmackDown/vs Raw/WWE game since the first one came out) so that’s a pretty big indicator of how far they’ve got my dial to turn.
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Ridiculous Canadian destroyer spot....
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Wow, Moxley looking like he put on a lot of weight... or lost a lot of hair... or got a thicker beard... or some combo of that all....
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WTF this theme for Moxley..... Does not fit at all.... I remember him having a better one before.....

lol I thought Eddie Kingston was some fan for most of that entrance....
You almost capture word-for-word my exact thoughts on these subjects.

That spot was dangerous, and he shouldn’t be risking it if he wants to be around to get that push.

I commented last week about Bubba Ray Moxley. That’s Dad life for you!

And yeah, “Wild Thing” is an awful wrestling theme. The instrumental would be fine but with the lyrics it doesn’t work.
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I love Wild Thing as a theme. Maybe not this version so much but I love it as a hype song for a badass face.
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But I was told Punk doesn’t move the needle
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Watched this morning while a hurricane was blowing and I still have power.

Great stuff.

Wanted to watch live on Friday. Head and heart said "do it". Body said, no pun intended, "Go to sleep".
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I've been one of AEW's bigger detractors on this site, but punks debut gives me hope that they can be better. They easily could have fucked this up, in any number of ways. Easily. But they didn't. They nailed it.
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“It wasn’t the way I would have done it. It was actually a lot better. It was perfect.”

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No wonder noid left. His one safe place for hating modern wrestling loved a modern wrestling segment.
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“It wasn’t the way I would have done it. It was actually a lot better. It was perfect.”

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Crazy
In other Twilight Zone news, Cornette actually had something *good* to say about Kenny Omega: well, it was more about disliking his chair target more.

The enemy of my enemy, I guess...
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