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Old 10-25-2018, 05:30 PM   #1
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Do you not identify as an earthling because it's a funny word? What about human? Do you identify as a human?
Yeah we're all human but the biggest thing that sets us apart is where we're born.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:40 PM   #2
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Yeah we're all human but the biggest thing that sets us apart is where we're born.
Maybe. If you're intent on setting yourself apart and only caring about the group you set yourself apart with.

Many people would say the biggest thing that sets us apart is not where we're born but our race. And instead of caring about everyone they only care about their race. Those people are assholes.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:37 PM   #3
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:54 PM   #4
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this thread is amazing.
Racism only started existing when fake news became a thing. EXPLAIN.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:56 PM   #5
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Racism only started existing when fake news became a thing. EXPLAIN.
it's true. I'm only aware of one racism in history.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:59 PM   #6
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it's true. I'm only aware of one racism in history.
It a long time ago in a land not so far away. Thank goodness my parents kicked racism in the face and killed it during the 70s.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:39 PM   #7
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Also I don't think God made me born here for a reason. Just luck of the draw really.
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Also I don't think God made me born here for a reason. Just luck of the draw really.
Orton RKOd god out of existence when he was born so blatant lie on your part
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:57 PM   #9
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Nah race doesn't set us apart but that goes back to the fake news wanting people to believe that.
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Nah race doesn't set us apart but that goes back to the fake news wanting people to believe that.
So you find it trivial for someone to only care about the people within their race but not for people to only care about the people in their country. I see.
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So you find it trivial for someone to only care about the people within their race but not for people to only care about the people in their country. I see.
Patriotism > Racial Pride
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Patriotism > Racial Pride
We’re not talking about patriotism or racial pride though. You can be proud of your country and still care about people from other countries. You can be proud of your race and still care about people of other races.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:00 PM   #13
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So you find it trivial for someone to only care about the people within their race but not for people to only care about the people in their country. I see.
Is it trivial though? Where one's from forms what's of importance to them. If someone thinks race is what sets us apart I'd have to disagree with them but I wouldn't call it trivial.
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It's kinda like:

Media: Saudi Arabia are doing all these bad things.

Simple Fan: I don't believe it. The media is not trustworthy enough.

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Media: Saudi Arabia are doing all these good things.

Simple Fan: Cool. What a progressive country.
This is it. It's absolutely unbelievable to me. He doesn't believe that a fake wrestling company accepting millions of dollars, millions of dollars from someone would spread a false message, but journalists trying to earn a reputation by reflecting the world are likely to be spreading "fake news."

It used to be cool to check a report's sources and be critical of the media. But it's now be degraded to putting your fingers in your ears and hummng hymns while things literally explode in front of your eyes. There's a difference between being critical of your sources and checking to see how valid they are and just writing things off as "fake news" because they question the fucking President.

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Maybe. If you're intent on setting yourself apart and only caring about the group you set yourself apart with.

Many people would say the biggest thing that sets us apart is not where we're born but our race. And instead of caring about everyone they only care about their race. Those people are assholes.


I've never gotten nationalism at all. You don't get a choice of where you're born. You're lucky. You can appreciate the benefits of your country, like the right to security, education and healthcare, but you don't do anything to achieve those. It's not something to thump your chest over and high-five your friends about.

There's also no good reason to ignore the suffering of people who live in places that don't have even parodies of those things, just because they weren't as lucky as you.

Of course you can't worry about all the things in the world all the time. Humans are really good at cognitive dissonance, and that's not even a bad thing, otherwise our heads would explode. But it doesn't mean you can't focus on an issue and say "that's fucking awful." Just like I can look at North Korea and say "that's fucking awful." Why is that even a point being brought up?

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Is it trivial though? Where one's from forms what's of importance to them. If someone thinks race is what sets us apart I'd have to disagree with them but I wouldn't call it trivial.
Not true. Environment helps form, but a lot of other factors are going to go into that too. Sometimes people reject where they are from. Some people recognize it as arbitrary. The idea that you have to chain yourself to your point of origin is a decision you've made, possibly head drummed into your head since you were a kid and all that, but that you say it as if being in a geographical spot is the overriding factor in how you conduct yourself as a human being does get the root of the issue a lot quicker than your dancing around #1-wwf-fan's questions.

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My favorite thing is when someone tells me their sociology professor told them all cultures are equal. I wonder how many people who think this also have a problem with WWE going to Saudi Arabia. I bet it's a high number.
You're talking about cultural relativism, and you've completely taken it out of context and should consider taking a sociology course yourself (I'm sure you can find free lectures online). Cultural relativism is simply a framework for looking at cultures that doesn't place significance on the western way of living as superior. It stops looking at hunter-gatherer tribes as "primitive" because they don't see their purpose in life to accumulate wealth or own a PlayStation (although they might think PlayStations are great).

It's a useful tool for not placing different cultures on a scale of "bad" to "good" based on inherent bias towards your own culture. It's nowhere near the same thing as criticizing a dictator dealing with US money to abuse human rights and oppress a culture.

There's a difference between watching your drink beer and thinking my scotch is better and smashing you over the head with my glass and waterboarding you with scotch.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:06 PM   #15
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This is it. It's absolutely unbelievable to me. He doesn't believe that a fake wrestling company accepting millions of dollars, millions of dollars from someone would spread a false message, but journalists trying to earn a reputation by reflecting the world are likely to be spreading "fake news."

It used to be cool to check a report's sources and be critical of the media. But it's now be degraded to putting your fingers in your ears and hummng hymns while things literally explode in front of your eyes. There's a difference between being critical of your sources and checking to see how valid they are and just writing things off as "fake news" because they question the fucking President.
I don't think you understand what fake news is. It's not just the news groups on the left that question the President. It's the ones on the right as well that support him. There's truth in it but it is spread throughout bias bullshit trying to form your opinion. News should provide you the facts and let you form an opinion of it but that's not how it is today.
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America is the best country on Earth. Even when it sucks, it sucks less than everywhere else.
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My favorite thing is when someone tells me their sociology professor told them all cultures are equal. I wonder how many people who think this also have a problem with WWE going to Saudi Arabia. I bet it's a high number.
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Gutted to know that, as a Canadian, Simple Fan doesn't care about me or my well being..... I thought we were cool.....

I think Simple Fan's character here would make a good rassling heel.... give him the JBL/Kenzo Suzuki "I love America" gear and give him a mic, brother
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I don't want to hear about anything bad happening to you Lock Jaw. Canadians are cool, I've met a few. Let's be honest, you're basically Americans though.

Plus weeds legal up there, USA needs to take a hint.
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I don't want to hear about anything bad happening to you Lock Jaw. Canadians are cool, I've met a few. Let's be honest, you're basically Americans though.

Plus weeds legal up there, USA needs to take a hint.
Lol I will fight you for calling me an American
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I like the idea of a bunch of people being confused by the media getting together and just saying "it's all bullshit!" and then getting their news from WWE and Leonard at the bar. He seems like a smart guy. He thinks they put logos in the foam of his beer, but he's been right before.
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Well they sure did there Simple Fan. They also will still execute a woman for driving. So basically they now let women apply for a license to get themselves executed. How progressive!
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How do the Spice Girls playing in China help put food into the mouths of people from Tibet? Especially when they talk about how good things are in China?

Newsflash: If things are really excellent, you don't need to buy time to talk about about how excellent they are.
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