Football Manager Discussion

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 10:12 AM

The latest game from the makes of Champ Manager is due out soon and the beta demo is released today at 3pm on www.sigames.com. Going to be a amazing game by the sounds of things and I urge all CM fans to check it ooout.

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-23-2004, 11:13 AM

Football Manager 2005 is the new football management game from Sports Interactive and is set for release in Q4 2004. Here is a list of confirmed new features (check out the screenshots at the bottom of the page!)

Updated user interface

Football Manager�s user interface will look markedly different to anything that has come before. Navigation between screens will be easier, with each screen explaining what information is on offer and how to get to other, related information. Consistency between separate game elements will also be more noticeable than in previous football management games: operations such as player filtering and sorting will now work consistently throughout the game. The game�s look � which now includes a two-panel option � will also be easily customised, allowing managers to store their preferred views and to return quickly to them.

Refined game engine

Sports Interactive�s long-standing and award-winning game engine has been refined and tuned in accordance with the feedback received from fans of its previous games. For example, the new game incorporate more than 30 extra fields for player data, including the all-new new �preferred moves�.

Updated database and competition rules

As has always been the case with Sports Interactive�s management simulations, Football Manager 2005�s database and competition simulation will be as up-to-date and accurate as is humanly possible.

Pre- and post-match information

Managers will be presented with enhanced information before and after each match, to show team line-ups, injuries and tactics before the match, and lots of stats about the match afterwards.

International player news

For the first time, managers will receive information on international performances, allowing them follow their players� careers and ascertain how they are performing at the highest level.

Cup summary news

Events which unfold in each round of all of the major cup competitions will be delivered to the manager in a news summary.

2D clips from agents

Managers are likely to receive �video clips� (executed using the game�s acclaimed 2D match engine) of a player�s performances, sent to them by that player�s agent with view to a possible transfer.

Coach reports on squads

In addition to commenting on individual players, coaches will now offer their opinions on the squad as a whole, thus helping managers to decide which areas of their team need improvement.

Job centre for non-playing positions

Non-playing jobs will be advertised through an in-game �Job Centre�, improving the manager�s ability to hire coaches and other staff.

Mutual Contract termination

Managers will be able to offer surplus players an opportunity to agree mutual contract termination, which will reduce the cost of releasing players and trimming squads.

Enhanced player loan options

Managers can now approach other clubs to offer young players on loan, a process which will make it easier to give younger players competitive experience. Also, when players� loan periods expire, the manager will have an opportunity to extend the loan (where appropriate).

Manager �mind games�

Managers can click on any other manager�s name and issue a comment to the media relating to that person. The effects of these comments will see an increase in the amount of pressure surrounding title races, relegation battles, Cup ties and so on. It will also be possible to use this feature in relation to your own players, other clubs, media pundits etc. (

!)

Football Manager 2005 � Further Features

* Playable leagues in 43 countries.
* More than 140 playable senior divisions and in excess of 100 playable cup competitions.
* Reserve and junior league competitions.
* More than 235,000 players and staff (from 145 different countries) with players boasting more than 120 separate attributes and non-playing staff boasting 40.
* A database of more than 14,000 clubs, 3,000 of which can be managed.
* Data supplied by a network of more than 2,500 researchers from around the world.
* Updated 2D �top-down� match engine.
* Improved �radio commentary�.
* Increased interaction with the media.
* Reworked injury system.
* Improved scouting system.
* Improved finance module to reflect the changing face of football.
* Comments when negotiating with human managers (network multi-player game only).
* Inclusion of U18 Caps.
* More realistic awards system.

I'd post some of the pics but they're way too big to put here

**Mr. Monday Morning** · 09-23-2004, 11:15 AM

Christ I hope they let you slate Rodney Marsh

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 12:21 PM

Just downloaded it be back in a while with my opinions

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 12:43 PM

Haveing to redownlaod it 94% now so hopefully I'm off to play it now..

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 12:56 PM

Tide me over until Chart Wars is out

Looks hot, will be hotter if it actually lets me download it

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 01:00 PM

Fucking new XP patch arse.

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:27 PM

The torrent link they gave is the most reliable download

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:28 PM

Oooh it goes below the conference now to conference north/south that'll be fun

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:31 PM

Don't like the way the squad is listed at all looks horrible

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:32 PM

You can arrange friendslys and buy back prices as part of transfers.

( btw I'm playing it windowed so everything I see will be posted here

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:34 PM

newws button is a tiny little thing now though.

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 01:35 PM

Can you post the link, cos this is doing by nut

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:37 PM

I just told the press I'm Arsene Wengers friend which has boosted Arsenal morale but done nowt of rmy Villa team I think.

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:41 PM

The next day Wenger told the press I'm his friend and one of the better managers in the game

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:42 PM

Really hate the way the squad looks its just one long list, much prefered the old look

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid

Can you post the link, cos this is doing by nut

http://www.filerush.com/download.php...05BetaDemo.exe

Thats what I used and it pissed ( sorry it took so long I missed your post )

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:44 PM

* pisssed along also all my players are now thrilled that Wenger likes me

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 01:49 PM

You are the man, cheers

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 01:53 PM

Assistant managers rule. You can get a team report where they tell you where the team needs strengthing . I.E at Villa I've to buy compettetion for Gav McCann he says and a load of other cool little things. Squad look is really pissing me off though

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 01:59 PM

That'll probably get sorted by skins

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 02:05 PM

Don't like the layout for Preferences, but whatever, its only a minor part

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 02:09 PM

Hopefully cause they aren't allowed officialy release it to look like it did before something to do with Eidos owning the games look.

**Rob** · 09-23-2004, 03:02 PM

About to play it now

**Ogen** · 09-23-2004, 03:08 PM

Shan't be disapointed Mr. Harvey apart from the layout in places its superb

**Cactus Sid** · 09-23-2004, 03:34 PM

Not enjoying it, possibly because I'd rather be playing Chart Wars, which will probably suck

**Ogen** · 09-24-2004, 01:11 AM

Over the course of the night my opinion on the layout has completly changed I love the new lay out now, once you sort your squad by position its great having condition and form on screen too makes it much better. Fucking brilliant game, anyone having any trouble remember its only a Beta demo so pretty much everything will be fixed when its ready for release

**diothoir** · 09-24-2004, 10:35 PM

So why did Eidos not keep SI games on for the new Champo manager?

**Ogen** · 09-24-2004, 11:03 PM

Si games just went out on their own so Sega is their publisher. It worked out that Eidos kept the CM name and the look of the game and Sigames kept the game code so FM is the real game really and Eidos's will most likely be shit

**diothoir** · 09-24-2004, 11:08 PM

Fair enough.

**Ferocious** · 09-25-2004, 11:09 AM

Downloading

**Ferocious** · 09-25-2004, 02:08 PM

Not impressed at all.

**Ogen** · 09-26-2004, 06:52 PM

why not?

**Dazz** · 09-26-2004, 07:02 PM

Ogen get online coz i need helpo downloading and installing this bad boy.

**Dazz** · 09-27-2004, 06:17 PM

So I am Chelsea, and I came out and said that me and Ferguson had a personality clash and will never like each other, which made Lampard, Gallas and a few others unhappy at my unprofessionalism, but Makele said that we had ismilar personalities

Plus the set out it much nicer IMO, but like Ogen said, the squad layout is hard to get used to.

**Ogen** · 09-27-2004, 10:17 PM

Its better when you get used to it though. Players condition, avg rating and form are all easily displayed

**Wengerland** · 09-29-2004, 08:15 AM

Downloading it now.

**Wengerland** · 09-29-2004, 09:48 AM

This game is class, i'm hoping the wages aren't equivalent to real life though cause Nathan Blake can't be on �16,000 a week

I'm Leicester, not done too much, just checked player search and squad and things, in the middle of my first friendly at the minute, beating Bolton 2-0 at half time with a Joey Gudjonsson wonder strike

and a Connolly tap in

**Chyno** · 09-29-2004, 06:57 PM

I don't like the new menu system. I think most people will agree the way that your squad is layed out sucks

**Ogen** · 09-29-2004, 08:40 PM

Squad layout is ten times better once you get used to ir. Its relly handy having so much more information displayed

09-23-2004, 10:12 AM	#1
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Football Manager Discussion The latest game from the makes of Champ Manager is due out soon and the beta demo is released today at 3pm on www.sigames.com. Going to be a amazing game by the sounds of things and I urge all CM fans to check it ooout. Last edited by Ogen; 09-30-2004 at 12:32 PM.

09-23-2004, 11:13 AM	#2
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Football Manager 2005 is the new football management game from Sports Interactive and is set for release in Q4 2004. Here is a list of confirmed new features (check out the screenshots at the bottom of the page!) Updated user interface Football Manager�s user interface will look markedly different to anything that has come before. Navigation between screens will be easier, with each screen explaining what information is on offer and how to get to other, related information. Consistency between separate game elements will also be more noticeable than in previous football management games: operations such as player filtering and sorting will now work consistently throughout the game. The game�s look � which now includes a two-panel option � will also be easily customised, allowing managers to store their preferred views and to return quickly to them. Refined game engine Sports Interactive�s long-standing and award-winning game engine has been refined and tuned in accordance with the feedback received from fans of its previous games. For example, the new game incorporate more than 30 extra fields for player data, including the all-new new �preferred moves�. Updated database and competition rules As has always been the case with Sports Interactive�s management simulations, Football Manager 2005�s database and competition simulation will be as up-to-date and accurate as is humanly possible. Pre- and post-match information Managers will be presented with enhanced information before and after each match, to show team line-ups, injuries and tactics before the match, and lots of stats about the match afterwards. International player news For the first time, managers will receive information on international performances, allowing them follow their players� careers and ascertain how they are performing at the highest level. Cup summary news Events which unfold in each round of all of the major cup competitions will be delivered to the manager in a news summary. 2D clips from agents Managers are likely to receive �video clips� (executed using the game�s acclaimed 2D match engine) of a player�s performances, sent to them by that player�s agent with view to a possible transfer. Coach reports on squads In addition to commenting on individual players, coaches will now offer their opinions on the squad as a whole, thus helping managers to decide which areas of their team need improvement. Job centre for non-playing positions Non-playing jobs will be advertised through an in-game �Job Centre�, improving the manager�s ability to hire coaches and other staff. Mutual Contract termination Managers will be able to offer surplus players an opportunity to agree mutual contract termination, which will reduce the cost of releasing players and trimming squads. Enhanced player loan options Managers can now approach other clubs to offer young players on loan, a process which will make it easier to give younger players competitive experience. Also, when players� loan periods expire, the manager will have an opportunity to extend the loan (where appropriate). Manager �mind games� Managers can click on any other manager�s name and issue a comment to the media relating to that person. The effects of these comments will see an increase in the amount of pressure surrounding title races, relegation battles, Cup ties and so on. It will also be possible to use this feature in relation to your own players, other clubs, media pundits etc. (!) Football Manager 2005 � Further Features * Playable leagues in 43 countries. * More than 140 playable senior divisions and in excess of 100 playable cup competitions. * Reserve and junior league competitions. * More than 235,000 players and staff (from 145 different countries) with players boasting more than 120 separate attributes and non-playing staff boasting 40. * A database of more than 14,000 clubs, 3,000 of which can be managed. * Data supplied by a network of more than 2,500 researchers from around the world. * Updated 2D �top-down� match engine. * Improved �radio commentary�. * Increased interaction with the media. * Reworked injury system. * Improved scouting system. * Improved finance module to reflect the changing face of football. * Comments when negotiating with human managers (network multi-player game only). * Inclusion of U18 Caps. * More realistic awards system. I'd post some of the pics but they're way too big to put here

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09-23-2004, 11:15 AM	#3
Mr. Monday Morning All Part Of The Plan Posts: 12,125	Christ I hope they let you slate Rodney Marsh

09-23-2004, 12:21 PM	#4
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Just downloaded it be back in a while with my opinions

09-23-2004, 12:43 PM	#5
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Haveing to redownlaod it 94% now so hopefully I'm off to play it now..

09-23-2004, 12:56 PM	#6
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Tide me over until Chart Wars is out Looks hot, will be hotter if it actually lets me download it

09-23-2004, 01:00 PM	#7
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Fucking new XP patch arse.

09-23-2004, 01:27 PM	#8
Ogen Posts: 16,220	The torrent link they gave is the most reliable download

09-23-2004, 01:28 PM	#9
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Oooh it goes below the conference now to conference north/south that'll be fun

09-23-2004, 01:31 PM	#10
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Don't like the way the squad is listed at all looks horrible

09-23-2004, 01:32 PM	#11
Ogen Posts: 16,220	You can arrange friendslys and buy back prices as part of transfers. ( btw I'm playing it windowed so everything I see will be posted here

09-23-2004, 01:34 PM	#12
Ogen Posts: 16,220	newws button is a tiny little thing now though.

09-23-2004, 01:35 PM	#13
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Can you post the link, cos this is doing by nut

09-23-2004, 01:37 PM	#14
Ogen Posts: 16,220	I just told the press I'm Arsene Wengers friend which has boosted Arsenal morale but done nowt of rmy Villa team I think.

09-23-2004, 01:41 PM	#15
Ogen Posts: 16,220	The next day Wenger told the press I'm his friend and one of the better managers in the game

09-23-2004, 01:42 PM	#16
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Really hate the way the squad looks its just one long list, much prefered the old look

09-23-2004, 01:44 PM	#18
Ogen Posts: 16,220	* pisssed along also all my players are now thrilled that Wenger likes me

09-23-2004, 01:49 PM	#19
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	You are the man, cheers

09-23-2004, 01:53 PM	#20
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Assistant managers rule. You can get a team report where they tell you where the team needs strengthing . I.E at Villa I've to buy compettetion for Gav McCann he says and a load of other cool little things. Squad look is really pissing me off though

09-23-2004, 01:59 PM	#21
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	That'll probably get sorted by skins

09-23-2004, 02:05 PM	#22
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Don't like the layout for Preferences, but whatever, its only a minor part

09-23-2004, 02:09 PM	#23
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Hopefully cause they aren't allowed officialy release it to look like it did before something to do with Eidos owning the games look.

09-23-2004, 03:02 PM	#24
Rob Part time poster Posts: 22,963	About to play it now

09-23-2004, 03:08 PM	#25
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Shan't be disapointed Mr. Harvey apart from the layout in places its superb

09-23-2004, 03:34 PM	#26
Cactus Sid Smashing Blouse Posts: 7,800	Not enjoying it, possibly because I'd rather be playing Chart Wars, which will probably suck

09-24-2004, 01:11 AM	#27
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Over the course of the night my opinion on the layout has completly changed I love the new lay out now, once you sort your squad by position its great having condition and form on screen too makes it much better. Fucking brilliant game, anyone having any trouble remember its only a Beta demo so pretty much everything will be fixed when its ready for release

09-24-2004, 10:35 PM	#28
diothoir Tattieman Posts: 3,590	So why did Eidos not keep SI games on for the new Champo manager?

09-24-2004, 11:03 PM	#29
Ogen Posts: 16,220	Si games just went out on their own so Sega is their publisher. It worked out that Eidos kept the CM name and the look of the game and Sigames kept the game code so FM is the real game really and Eidos's will most likely be shit

09-24-2004, 11:08 PM	#30
diothoir Tattieman Posts: 3,590	Fair enough.

09-25-2004, 11:09 AM	#31
Ferocious jWo 4 Lyfe! Posts: 3,268	Downloading

09-25-2004, 02:08 PM	#32
Ferocious jWo 4 Lyfe! Posts: 3,268	Not impressed at all.

09-26-2004, 07:02 PM	#34
Dazz IRREPLACEABLE Posts: 11,608	Ogen get online coz i need helpo downloading and installing this bad boy.