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Old 07-03-2005, 08:11 PM   #1
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Hulk Hogan's popularity is really astounding when you consider that...
Hogan even though his gimmick is solely based on being a real american is cheered as much internationally as he is cheered in the U.S. Let's start off in Canada where Hogan is always a huge draw and his popularity may only be matched with that of Bret Hart(whether Hogan is a heel or a face) who of course is the best wrestler that Canada has produced according to many. In Japan, Hogan is also huge.It is really astounding on how a pro-american gimmick reaches such huge popularity with such anti-american resentment in this day and age and back in the Vietnam days.



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Old 07-03-2005, 08:22 PM   #2
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Old 07-03-2005, 08:27 PM   #3
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He's still huge in the UK.
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Old 07-03-2005, 08:28 PM   #4
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Old 07-03-2005, 08:48 PM   #5
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I only liked Hogan when he was NWO, The whole, American Red and Yellow, is just bullshit to me.
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I love Hogan, just when they say it was his last match, then that should have been it.
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Old 07-03-2005, 09:27 PM   #9
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IT is astounding that you can get so many people across the world to pop for what is essentially an uber redneck gimmick
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:08 AM   #10
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I only liked Hogan when he was NWO, The whole, American Red and Yellow, is just bullshit to me.
Huzzah! I am the yang to your ying! I liked Hogan what with the whole red and yellow bit, but not so much since he joined the nWo.
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:14 AM   #11
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:52 AM   #12
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I'm just surprised he can even make it throught he curtains to get cheered.

I for one never really cared for him that much back in the gimmicky days. That's cause back then I was a huge Taker mark and wanted Taker to win eveyrthing.
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Old 07-04-2005, 09:15 AM   #13
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He was alwyas very pro American, but at the same time, its not like he ever ripped Canada, so fans here would have no reason to hate him. And we still respect American wrestlers, but only the heels, and Hogan.

Bret would get a crazy pop if he ever came back, but I actually think Hogan is more popular, especially in Toronto and Montreal. Bret would probably win the West.

There are major factors why Hogan stays over. #1 for most fans he was popular when they were kids, and everyone looks at things they liked in their childhood with rose coloured glasses.

The other thing is that Hogan knows how to stay away for a while, then come back and keep doing that. He ensures that people wont get sick of him. Which uisually happens when he'sa round for extended periods of time.

And I guess one other thin is that he's easy to cheer for. Nothing complex about his matches, you got a heel, they do something to Hogan, they have a match, Hogan gets beat on, makes comeback after comeback aand finally makes the big one, does his 4 moves and he's out.
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Old 07-04-2005, 10:25 AM   #14
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I personally think Bret Hart is Overrated, I've seen a couple of his matches and he is alright, but not worthy of the reputation he receives.
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Hogan still sucks no matter how much he gets cheered. I just wish he would stay off my tv.
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Old 07-04-2005, 12:08 PM   #16
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I personally think Bret Hart is Overrated, I've seen a couple of his matches and he is alright, but not worthy of the reputation he receives.
Considering his reputation is that he's Jesus, mostly by Canadians who are so sad they're all "YAY! SOMEONE FROM THE SAME COUNTRY AS ME!" It's almost impossible NOT to be overrated.
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Hogan is overrated

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Old 07-04-2005, 12:21 PM   #18
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Of course Hogan's overrated. Anyone who's had the same gimmick for 82 years...
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I was gonna say Taker but he changed it.
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Old 07-04-2005, 12:29 PM   #20
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It's OK. Taker is also hugely overrated.
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yeah he is, but not as overrated as Hogan.

matter of fact I can't think of anyone as overrated as Thing v.2
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Also wondering why the Vietnam era was brought up, since that was the 60s and Hulkamania was born in the 80s.

If anything, Pro America, Yuppie, Republicanism were so "in" during the Reagan era that anyone in wrestling waving a flag got hugely over. If a giant blond haired brawler who liked rock n roll and loved the good ol U S of A didn't blow up, it would've ben a stunner. Almost seems idiotic that the NWA and AWA didn't catch on ti something like that first.
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:35 PM   #23
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IT is astounding that you can get so many people across the world to pop for what is essentially an uber redneck gimmick
I would mention Austin here, but Austin didn't start getting that way until JR started calling him the "Bionic Redneck" and especially after he came back for the umpteenth time (and had those "F(Skull)ck Fear" shirts and crap).
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He's degenerated to a selfish, greedy egomaniac, but unfortunately, people love him. See, we can see through his persona and realize what he's really become, but most people can't. The masses are ignorant, as they say (or maybe as I say), so they'll continue to cheer him.

There's no denying what he's contributed to pro wrestling... but I wish he'd hang up the boots for good, because there's nothing he can do anymore.
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Old 07-04-2005, 01:46 PM   #25
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Also wondering why the Vietnam era was brought up, since that was the 60s and Hulkamania was born in the 80s.

If anything, Pro America, Yuppie, Republicanism were so "in" during the Reagan era that anyone in wrestling waving a flag got hugely over. If a giant blond haired brawler who liked rock n roll and loved the good ol U S of A didn't blow up, it would've ben a stunner. Almost seems idiotic that the NWA and AWA didn't catch on ti something like that first.
I brought up Vietnam because that was a time where their was a huge anti-american backlash and considering Hogan's old "Real american" had troops fighting on it, it fits.
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I would mention Austin here, but Austin didn't start getting that way until JR started calling him the "Bionic Redneck" and especially after he came back for the umpteenth time (and had those "F(Skull)ck Fear" shirts and crap).
Austin was also a redneck, but he was primarily anti-authority. He was also pretty apolitical. He walked up and stunned almost anyone, no strings attached.

Hogan was thumping prayer and the red, white and blue constantly.

Austin was an anti-authority character with a redneck face. Hogan was a one trick stereotype. The redneck patriotism (My way or the highway, USA! USA!), and that's the difference.

Stone Cold was ALWAYS a redneck in his gimmick. Come on, what about Austin doesn't scream hick?
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I brought up Vietnam because that was a time where their was a huge anti-american backlash and considering Hogan's old "Real american" had troops fighting on it, it fits.
Once again, Vietnam was in the 60's and Hogan's run came in the 80's where America was basically popular. Or as popular as this country ever gets. Seriously, there wasn't a better time period to be a bible-thumping, foreigner hatin,'anti-commie, pro-USA goon than back then.
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Once again, Vietnam was in the 60's and Hogan's run came in the 80's where America was basically popular. Or as popular as this country ever gets. Seriously, there wasn't a better time period to be a bible-thumping, foreigner hatin,'anti-commie, pro-USA goon than back then.
Yeah, the world loved us...

Unless they were commies, arabs, foreigners, or anyone we were bullying.

Oh wait, that's basically just like now. Yeah, our popularity was huge at the time.

Between the fourtiues and the seventies, we upset the balance of power on four continents. We were installing dictators and overthrowing democracies. We were beloved mostly at gunpoint, by regimes who were installed becuase they were convenient to us. We were considered global bullies, but nobody had the firepower to take us on, except the USSR (Before they bankrupted themselves).

YEAH. GO AMERICA.
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It's not the whole "pro-American gimmick that gets cheered by anti-American crowds" thing that bugs me. It's the fact that Canada and Japan take pride in producing the best technical wrestlers on Earth, yet cheer Hogan, who is one of the worst grapplers ever. That baffles me to this day.
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It's not the whole "pro-American gimmick that gets cheered by anti-American crowds" thing that bugs me. It's the fact that Canada and Japan take pride in producing the best technical wrestlers on Earth, yet cheer Hogan, who is one of the worst grapplers ever. That baffles me to this day.
It's simple.

Canadians and Japanese people are every bit as stupid as Americans. It's just taht since they have better production of these starts, they normally don't look like the idiots they are.
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:14 PM   #31
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I personally think Bret Hart is Overrated, I've seen a couple of his matches and he is alright, but not worthy of the reputation he receives.


You're an idiot.
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Old 07-04-2005, 04:21 PM   #32
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It's simple.

Canadians and Japanese people are every bit as stupid as Americans. It's just taht since they have better production of these starts, they normally don't look like the idiots they are.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:03 PM   #33
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I didn't mentioned Latino Penguins.
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Old 07-04-2005, 07:54 PM   #34
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Yeah Hogan is overrated in the ring, yes his workrate is shit, hell today Vince would tell him to leave and come back with some abs.

With that said, only one guy in the history of the business can say that they drew as much or more than Hogan, and thats Austin. People come to see him, because back in the 80s the guy was larger than life.
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Old 07-04-2005, 08:29 PM   #35
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He's degenerated to a selfish, greedy, egomaniac
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Bret Hart who of course is the best wrestler that Canada has produced according to many.
What about test?
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