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Old 07-05-2005, 04:04 PM   #1
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Muhammad Hassan in Iraq?
Ok I was going to put this in the other thread about Hassan but it contained Smackdown spoilers. I was thinking the other day if Smackdown goes to Iraq this year, will Hassan go too? I can't imagine him wrestling over there as I think that would be pushing the envelope way too far. His gimmick would piss off the American soldiers over there not to mention the Iraqis. The only thing I can think of is he would either not go, have a gimmick change before then, or be traded back to RAW. But Smackdown usually goes to Iraq in December and I doubt he'll be traded by then. I just can't see Mark Magnus working that gimmick over there. He'd probably be scared shitless that something bad might happen to him and I can't say I blame him. Muhammad Hassan is a VERY controversial character. I don't think WWE thought about him going to Iraq when they traded him from RAW to Smackdown. I can only assume that they are not going to Iraq this year. Thoughts?
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:16 PM   #2
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they could make him lose??
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:17 PM   #3
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they could make him lose??
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:25 PM   #4
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I can't see him refusing to do it. Strikes me as the kind that doesn't get phased by something like that.
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:40 PM   #5
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He's Arabian.
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:41 PM   #6
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Holy shit! Why didn't anybody tell me that?
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Christ, it's just a character. It's not like he's playing a role of a terrorist. Besides, they're performing to the troops, who are American, and understand what World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT means. There shouldn't be much problem with it, but it may be wise just to keep him off the mic.
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Oh yeah, the character is Arabian.

He's Italian..
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:17 PM   #9
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He may not even wrestle in Iraq. Every superstar on the smackdown roster doesn't wrestle.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:18 PM   #10
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Christ, it's just a character. It's not like he's playing a role of a terrorist. Besides, they're performing to the troops, who are American, and understand what World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT means. There shouldn't be much problem with it, but it may be wise just to keep him off the mic.
How sure are you that a ton of them aren't marks?
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Oh yeah, the character is Arabian.

He's Italian..
No he isn't
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:54 PM   #12
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:55 PM   #13
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Most people (above the age of 10) know wrestling is fake..

I don't think the US Army would attack him..
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:16 PM   #14
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Christ, it's just a character. It's not like he's playing a role of a terrorist. Besides, they're performing to the troops, who are American, and understand what World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT means. There shouldn't be much problem with it, but it may be wise just to keep him off the mic.
Yes, but there are some really stupid fucks out there.
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:19 PM   #15
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Most people (above the age of 10) know wrestling is fake..

I don't think the US Army would attack him..
Yeah, the same people who don't see the issue with S&M pics are the best example of people who know right from wrong.
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:37 PM   #16
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Yeah, the same people who don't see the issue with S&M pics are the best example of people who know right from wrong.
But it'll be a huge group of people..

That's like saying "some Arabs are terrorist, so all Arabs must be"..
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Or how about he doesn't go then the next week attacks Teddy Long about how he wasn't allowed to go to Iraq as another example of how he's being wronged by Long? Eh?

Or he has a gimmick overhaul.
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:48 PM   #18
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But it'll be a huge group of people..

That's like saying "some Arabs are terrorist, so all Arabs must be"..
Oh, so you're comparing race to a voluntary organisation?

Good comparison. It's not like you were born into one and choose to join another.
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Old 07-05-2005, 08:09 PM   #19
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Nah..

It's just ignorant to assume that because a couple of racist members of the armed forces did some fucked up shit, that some of them would attack an entertainer sent to entertain them simple because he plays an Arab on tv...
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Old 07-05-2005, 11:27 PM   #20
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No he isn't
Right, he's half (something I forget, European something) and half Jordanian, Vince probably saw him and was like "Eff this, it's close enough; let's put Arabian headgear on him and some music that goes...

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Old 07-06-2005, 12:38 AM   #21
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Did you just Hassan yourself?
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:51 AM   #22
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This could go a number of ways. Considering his promos have been less purely anti-American and more about promoting tolerance of Arabs (or rather, dissing those he perceives to be intolerant), and that he's from Detroit, I don't think a face turn would be entirely out of the question. He could become a troop-supporting flag waver who loves America wants nothing more than tolerance for his people, of course dropping the scathing language toward those he seems to perceive as intolerant.

Although I'll admit that, considering racism is long a staple of wrestling, that the chances of that are fairly slim.
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Did you just Hassan yourself?
Nope, that's just my account of Vince Hassan-ing himself at the thought of Hassan's entrance...
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He's not even Arabian. He's half Italian, half Jordanian (from Detroit no less).

That's almost like asking to keep the Iron Sheik off of a tour in his day because his character was anti-american.

We get it already, it's not real. Only a character.

How many people took Brett Hart out back in an alley to pick a fight when he did his anti-american campaign?
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He's not even Arabian. He's half Italian, half Jordanian (from Detroit no less).

That's almost like asking to keep the Iron Sheik off of a tour in his day because his character was anti-american.

We get it already, it's not real. Only a character.

How many people took Brett Hart out back in an alley to pick a fight when he did his anti-american campaign?
He is indeed half Jordanian, therefore, he is an arab.
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He's not even Arabian. He's half Italian, half Jordanian (from Detroit no less).

That's almost like asking to keep the Iron Sheik off of a tour in his day because his character was anti-american.

We get it already, it's not real. Only a character.

How many people took Brett Hart out back in an alley to pick a fight when he did his anti-american campaign?
Wait, isn't DETROIT only his onscreen home? I thought he was from Jersey.
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:36 PM   #27
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He is indeed half Jordanian, therefore, he is an arab.
Well, he's half arabian.

Just because half my blood comes from Scotland doesn't make me Scottish...
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:53 PM   #28
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Anyway, in regards to Hassan in Iraq.

Whether or not the Armed forces know it's real or fake, whether or not Magnus is REALLY an Arab, if they bring the Hassan character over there, it's a slap in the face of the armed services.
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Well, he's half arabian.

Just because half my blood comes from Scotland doesn't make me Scottish...
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Wait, isn't DETROIT only his onscreen home? I thought he was from Jersey.
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The show is meant to be an escape for the troops, who protect our nation. A tribute , really. I agree, it would be very disrespectful to the troops, who see enough of that type of shit year round. I don't think any troops would open fire, but it's still a bad idea to bring Hassan.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:03 PM   #33
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I would love to see Hassan go to Iraq and when the troops boo him, have Hassan rant about being American but treated like shit while coming over to entertain them.. that would be cool
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:06 PM   #34
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The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)The Naitch got the bus to Rep Town and repped it up real bad at the rep shop (100,000+)
By then, Hassan will be involved in an angle where he falls in love with a typical American white girl (Torrie Wilson) thus ending his hatred towards America. he will then sport new Stars and Stripes attire and wrestle as a proud American. He will come to SD! a huge fan favorite

Then he will swerve the USA and put Torrie in the camel clutch and go back to his Arab roots. He will then be shot
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Old 07-07-2005, 11:22 PM   #35
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Wolverine does not have that much rep yet (10+)
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Wait, isn't DETROIT only his onscreen home? I thought he was from Jersey.

Syracuse is where he was born and raised, Detroit is where he lives and Trained.
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