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Paul Burchill
Ok, I really enjoyed his new character on SmackDown.
yeah it is a little off the wall and idealistically I would like to see Paul just going out there to wrestle and getting over that way, but do you really see that happening? American audiences are not going to appreciate his style and he is going to put them to sleep every week, simple as that. With this gimmick at least people will sit up and take notice of him, then in turn they will hopefully begin to enjoy his matches. And he had a very good one with William Regal this week, it is a style that I love to see on WWE and with the timeslot they were given they really made the most of it. This Pirate gimmick is funny, entertaining and could probably get over as a credible character without doing any long term damage to Burchill's career. |
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I agree that the gimmick is entertaining for now. The key words are for now, as I can definitely see it getting stale. Could Burchill get over with it? Sure, and he probably will, because
A) He's talented B) It's off the wall enough for the older fans to get a kick out of it C) it's goofy enough for little kids get into. Getting over, though, doesn't mean he'll get pushed for it. I seriously doubt that this gimmick was created with the intention of getting Burchill over. More likely, creative prolly just realized there was another Pirates of the Caribbean movie coming out this summer and wanted to capitalize on it. |
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I have always liked Burchill's style, him and Regal made a great Tag Team but i reckon they are better against each other and now with this Pirate gimmick WWE could go the whole nine yards and give him a boat and some crew so he can make a stable out of it.
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lol
Hopefully they'll pass on the boat but I'd love to see this feud with Regal go on to Wrestlemania. They deserve to be on the show. Hopefully it'll lead to a US title push for at least one of the men. |
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The gimmick sucks. It's cheesy, it's lame, it's not cool, and I very much doubt he'll get over with it.
The fact he landed on his face on the C4 is the perfect analogy of how this gimmick will do. I like Birchill...I think it's a little soon to be throwing around tags like "great worker" on him when we haven't seen that out of him yet, but I think the potential is definitely there. It's a shame they have to ruin good talent with goofy gimmicks lately. |
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To be honest, I'm surprised they let him hit the C4.
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Well some may call it cheesy, but I like it and it's entertaining. Atleast they gave us a reson for it, the fact that his ancestors were pirates and that he wants to carry on his family's tradition. It's a lot better than him just coming out one week dressed as a pirate. I hope he gets a good push from this, I like Burchill.
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Yeah I'm liking it so far and hopefully he gets over and a push.Now I want a reason for the Boogeyman being the Boogeyman.Does he have ancestors that were Boogeypeople and he is carrying the tradition.
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I was thinking about the boat earlier.
I mean, we've seen low-riders, motorbikes, mopeds, limousines and wrestling rings as part of peoples entrance. Why not a pirate ship? Hell, it doesn't have to be full size, just something you might see in a Thanksgiving Day parade or something. Even if it was just once at a PPV, it would be a mark-out moment and entertaining to say the least. |
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Americans will always be biased against Europeans in wrestling.
That's why Davey Boy Smith and Ted Billington don't come in most people's top 5 of 10 lists of all time. |
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I'm just glad they let him still do the C4.
In a sea full of some of the gayest, generic slams for finishers and/or submission moves WWE has been churning out for the past couple years...the C4 is something new, something fresh, something original. |
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In a wrestling recap I read, they are now calling the C-4 the Head and ARGGGHHHM Suplex.
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Ted really, really sucked, but this guy named TOM Billington had a remarkable career under the name "Dynamite Kid". |
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No. Sorry, but when he, Boogeyman, and every other out of this world dumb ass character comes along I turn my TV off. He may be Ric FUCKING Flair, but I'd never know because I refuse to be embarassed (even when no one else is around) by what I watch. Papa Shango making Warrior vomit was more acceptable then this new wave of shitty ass gimmicks.
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LOL Ted Billington
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Exactly,Kane lost the edge when he stopped being an monster killer with no visible emotions, and started to try the "Cerebral Assasin" bit and failed. By the way there are multiple reasons that didn't work but that is a completly different conversation.
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Course, I didn't see SD by the time I said he didn't use it. Unless he also uused it on velocity or something... |
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yeah. it would have been better if fat ass regal could jump
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You guys who don't like the pirate gimmick....you need to relax. It's a show FULL of characters, and since he's a virtual nobody on the roster, this is a remarkable way for him to get attention. He can't have a normal guy "gimmick" like HBK or HHH b/c he's had no time to develop his on-screen personality or style and ppl don't have the connection to him yet.
I mean, hey, at least the man put on a match. The Boogeyman -- who is actually a witch doctor and not really a boogeyman at all -- has not had a match. He's been in the ring and given his share of pump handle slams...but no matches. Just be glad Burchill is actually trying and, like I always say, watch before you bitch. |
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Ever since I heard the news that Burchill had signed a developmental contract I've been harping on about Burchill-this and Burchill-that, so you'd think that I absolutely hate this new gimmick. But I don't, and there are two reasons why.
1) It gets Burchill on my tv. Which is great as the guy is a fantastic worker. When required he can get down on the mat and chain wrestle with the best of the them. He has all the characteristic of an old school British wrestler not too dissimilar to Regal. On the other hand, the guy can fly like a cruiserweight, and I don't care whether that's thought of as a major quality in a wrestler but I challenge any one of you not to mark out slightly or gasp when a man bigger than your high-school football coach leaps over the top rope. Burchill on Smackdown is good of the viewing public and good for him too. He deserves some of the spotlight and will inspire a new wave of British wrestlers fo years to come. 2) The gimmick might be stupid, but it's FUN. I don't need to bump old threads about the Boogeyman to prove the point that a gimmick doesn't need to be well-devised or clever to capture the imagination. Hell, it's even made a star out of a no-talent bum like Marty Wright; the sky is the limit for a decent worker. |
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I don't mind the gimmick as much as I do others, because it has been made obvious that Paul Burchill isn't really a pirate, he's just playing one. Nick Dinsmore cannot just be Nick Dinsmore one week and that be that, Burchill can drop the pirate thing at any time, though.
I'm not going to try and suggest smart booking strategies for the character, because I've come to expect little depth from the WWE, but I will say that I don't think there is anyone better SmackDown! can submit to the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. On SmackDown!, have Gregory Helms demand he gets a chance to qualify, as he is Cruiserweight Champion, plus he has also won a TLC Match. Have Theodore Long say that he does think Helms deserves a shot, and his opponent who is undefeated in singles matches since he made his debut a few months back should earn a spot as well. Gregory Helms goes out to await his opponent, who turns out to be Paul Burchill. Let the two work a great match, and have Burchill win with The C4 (please don't change the name, just because he's a pirate doesn't mean it needs to be named "Walk the Plank" or something. Burchill goes on to MITB as RAW superstars joke about it on RAW. At SNME, have Edge walking along backstage, when he walks into Paul Burchill. Have Burchill say he's going after the treasure Edge buried at New Year's Revolution, and will take over as the "bounty-keeper". Edge then cuts Burchill off and says he assumes he is talking about the Money in the Bank contract, and Burchill may win at WrestleMania, but he will never be an equal to Edge. Burchill then says "Edge, meet my edge," and he draws his sword on Edge, who doesn't play it as horror, but stupidity. Burchill then goes on to say "You may have become The Rated R Superstar, but at WrestleMania, I become The Rated AAARRRGGGGH Superstar," before walking off leaving Edge & Lita to discuss it amongst themselves, only for Burchill to pop in and say "Yo-HO-HO (referring to Lita), and a bottle of rum.", before leaving for good. Stupid, I know, but if they introduce Burchill to main eventers, then they let his talent speak for itself, after WrestleMania, I could see Burchill dropping the pirate gimmick slowly. Have him ease out of traditional pirating ways into a more later style. Have him lose the hair, and get back his "Torture Device" attire, etc. Call me stupid if you must, but I would love to see Burchill win the MITB Ladder Match. It would be even better if Burchill ran out into the ring after the WWE Championship Match, cashed it in, and won the title. You see, normally people would scoff at me for suggesting specific mid-card talent get a decent push, but who can honestly say that they would be surprised if the WWE had a pirate win the World Championship at WrestleMania? |
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So fucking sexy.
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I can dig it.
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i dont see Burchill achieving greater than lower mid-card success with this gimmick.
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Burchall's gimmick hasn't entertained me enough to get to his wrestling. In fact, the only thing making him at all entertaining right now is Regal's responses. The little "bomb" he gave Regal was nowhere near as funny as the quality with which Regal sold it. ...But then, I'm a sucker for dignified Brits getting slapped around. ![]() Burchill's character really doesn't have the same qualities as some of the other personas. It's also worth noting that he is just an ordinary guy. He asked to play a pirate on TV. On the other hand, Buchill's far less stupid than milking Eddie's death, Rey in the main event, or the whole worm eating shtick. It may not be one of the better done gimmicks, but at least it's not annoying (The spirit Squad, who evidently are SUPPOSED to make you turn off your TV), stupid (Boogeyman chowing down on worms manages to neither disgust nor entertain me), or more retarded than the character themselves (Euegene was another "great for a while" gimmicks which has gone way south). |
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So fucking sexy.
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The difference, still, is that Burchill went from 4 weeks "becoming" a pirate to an actual wrestling match. Even the Spirit Squad guys are wrestling. Boogeyman chickenwalks, eats worms -- which I admit gags me big time -- and does a pumphandle slam. He does not wrestle, which is part of why he's dropping in my view.
I'm not really trying to rip on Marty. Just sayin', we need to actually give guys with new gimmicks time to adjust and show what they can do before we start badmouthing them. |
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The difference his not applicable. We have wrestlers without gimmicks who do three moves.
The whole point is that it's an entertainment issue. If you're going that route, Hogan should have never had a place in wrestling to begin with, given his appeal wasn't on the grounds of wrestling. People used to whine that the Rock didn't wrestle either. ![]() |
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Yeah I never understood that.
He was a good worker, Rocky. |
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I was talking about entertainment the whole time. But the thing with this entertainment is that it's World Wrestling Entertainment. And when one of the wrestlers doesn't actually wrestle, and one of them dresses funny but puts on a good match...I don't see how the difference isn't "applicable". It's not a costume party; it's a costume party with rasslin'. |
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Paul Birchill is pretty good, but the gimmick is stupid. They should either have him go all out and be a pirate or have him be paul birchill. Right now it's like he thinks he is a pirate but is not really a pirate. That's stupid and detracts from the gimmick, make up ur mind WWE.
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#38 |
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I wish I were a pirate
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