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Old 07-14-2006, 11:13 PM   #1
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What was up with the botched finish in the Sting/Hogan match? Hogan basically had Sting beat clean - Sting who had been pretty much single handedly taking apart the nWo for months. Then Bret comes out hot off the screwjob and prevents the referee from making the three count and manages to get the belt on Sting in a weak way. Is there a real story behind this or just shitty WCW booking?
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:25 PM   #2
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What was up with the botched finish in the Sting/Hogan match? Hogan basically had Sting beat clean - Sting who had been pretty much single handedly taking apart the nWo for months. Then Bret comes out hot off the screwjob and prevents the referee from making the three count and manages to get the belt on Sting in a weak way. Is there a real story behind this or just shitty WCW booking?
If I can recall Nick Patrick didnt do the fast count as fast as he should have.
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Old 07-15-2006, 12:19 AM   #3
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This is considered by some as the beginning of the end for WCW. Hogan was heavily criticised for not doing a clean finish which confused and irritated fans who had waited over a year to see Sting take down the nWo. The finish actually involved a recently-introduced Bret Hart coming down to the ring after Hogan "won" the match through a supposedly fast count by referee Nick Patrick, ostensibly to "make things right" and protect Sting from being "screwed," a la the Montreal Screwjob. Unfortunately, the "fast" three-count which Hogan used to win was quite obviously a normal-speed count, requiring the announcers to act as though it was fast, since that was the finish they had been told - though everyone viewing the show had just seen a clean pinfall. Rather than the triumphant victory that one would expect the most popular wrestler in the company to gain over the hated man he had been chasing for over a year, as Sting had Hogan, the finish was confused and chaotic, with the live audience visibly displeased at the entire spectacle. Hart "restarted" the match, and Sting quickly won the title, but given the circumstances, excitement was rather muted. It is rumored that Hogan paid Patrick a sum in cash backstage before the show in exchange for failing to execute the planned finish, with the intent of protecting Hogan's image. The entire debacle resulted in the title being held up for another Hogan-Sting pay-per-view match, which many WCW fans took as a slap in the face and a hapless attempt to draw additional money to see the result WCW had failed to deliver the first time around.

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Old 07-15-2006, 01:05 PM   #4
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I'd like to see the video of the finish.
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Old 07-15-2006, 04:46 PM   #5
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Best build up ever to a feud, but IMO all around the worst match ever.
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:37 PM   #6
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I'd like to see the video of the finish.
If you cant find a video of it the match will be on the Hogan Anthology DVD coming out Oct 17th.
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:46 PM   #7
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If you cant find a video of it the match will be on the Hogan Anthology DVD coming out Oct 17th.
Which will probably be edited to the point where it announces Hogan as the winner and the match ends at that.
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Old 07-16-2006, 04:24 AM   #8
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i was able to DL the match on limewire and just watched the finish. patrick clearly does make the normal paced 3 count but hart prevents the guy from ringing the bell.
norton and bagwell try to make the run in but sting fights them off and hogan taps instantly to the death lock. every single wcw guy comes to the ring and someone is waving an american flag for some reason.
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i was able to DL the match on limewire and just watched the finish. patrick clearly does make the normal paced 3 count but hart prevents the guy from ringing the bell.
norton and bagwell try to make the run in but sting fights them off and hogan taps instantly to the death lock. every single wcw guy comes to the ring and someone is waving an american flag for some reason.

you just gotta love the "random happenings" in WCW
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:04 AM   #10
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Old 07-17-2006, 05:06 PM   #11
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Pretty much every WCW PPV main event had to have some kinda twist to it. A run in, a swerve, a DQ, a clean Hogan victory... you get the idea...
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