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Old 09-25-2006, 11:04 AM   #1
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Exclamation I'm going to laugh when Kurt Angle kills himself
No, but seriously you guys are ridiculous. Months ago when Kurt's pain addiction problem surface, everyone was like "OMG DON'T KILL YOURSELF, TAKE A BREAK, SLOW DOWN, etc."

When Kurt was released from his WWE contract, there was mixed feelings because people didn't want to see him leave yet people were glad he got a chance to rest and get his head on straight.

Now that he has signed with TNA, everyone is going apeshit saying how Angle is going to save TNA. How WWE now has competition and all of this other crap. Instead of saying that Angle is going to save TNA, you should be saying "TNA should save Angle." And if anyone here actually cares about Kurt as a human, they should not be so happy about him signing with TNA. Why? Well here are some facts and fictions about this TNA deal.

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No Limits: TNA doesn't have restrictions on their wrestling like WWE does. So what will Angle do? He will kick himself into overdrive. He will fall apart even more = more injuries = more painkillers = obiturary notice. I bet you guys will be marking out again then, right? Since people were so orgasmic over Angle's debut, that will make Angle work extra hard.

Too Much Self Pride: That's Kurt in a nutshell. Almost like Hulk Hogan in a way (yes, I'm comparing Angle to Hogan), Hogan doesn't know when to quit. Angle, doesn't know when to quit. Angle wants to be the best. Hogan wants to go over the best. Different? Yes, but the same in the light of things. Hogan keeps coming back because the casual fans mark out for him. Angle works his ass off way too much because the internet fans mark out for him. At that rate Angle will die before Hogan. And it's because of US Angle will die before Hogan. TNA PRESENTS: KURT ANGLE'S PUBLIC SUICIDE, LIVE ON PPV!

History: If Kurt wins the NWA World Title, he would be marking history. How many others have won the WWE, WCW, and NWA World Titles? Ric Flair is the only guy you can really think of. Do you think Kurt knows this and that's what's driving him in TNA?

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Less Of A Schedule = More Rest: Just because he would be working less of a schedule doesn't mean he will suddenly heal like Wolverine. If Angle's condition is bad enough that the WWE RELEASED HIM, then it's way more serious than just a few months of rest. And by now I would think you guys know that Angle works way to hard and hates being away from wrestling. So what will he do? He'll probably work for ROH, too. And much like TNA, they have no limits to how they wrestle. Way to go Kurt, you killed yourself in front of 500 fans wrestling Nigel Mcguiness (no knock on Nigel, but come on).

Kurt Won't Save TNA: If he was never able to be a major draw in WWE (come on the ratings were never really high when he was champ). Will he help out in short term? Yeah, people will tune in for morbid curiosity, doesn't mean he will draw them so much money that they can suddenly start touring all over the country and draw thousands of people. Not even Kurt Fucking Angle, yes he may be one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. However, he can't turn crap television into gold. If so, the WWE wouldn't be having low PPV buyrates the last 4-5 years.

So really are you really that happy to see Kurt wrestle that you are willing to watch him die? I mean if you want to watch Kurt wrestle, buy some DVDs with matches of him on it or download them.


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Old 09-25-2006, 11:09 AM   #2
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On Kurt's part, I believe it's the fucking stupidest thing he could have done short of going to UFC. He's killing himself.

On TNA's part, it was an EXTREMELY smart move and will boost them a bit.

It's a double edged sword.
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Hmmmm...how sharp is both swords though?

Get a month or so boost in ratings?
Kill Kurt Angle?

I dunno...human life is more important than a temp. spike in ratings.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:12 AM   #4
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It was smart for TNA from a business perspective. For Kurt it was not. I wish he would rest, but no one can force him to. WWE tried and did what they felt they needed to do to give him a wake up call of sorts, but he didn't listen. I hope he'll be okay, as it is true that TNA has no limits on their wrestling style.
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When it comes to a company trying to beat out their competitor, which is what TNA is doing, they'll step on anyone and anything to get there.

Human life vs. business can be skewed at times.
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Hmmmm...how sharp is both swords though?

Get a month or so boost in ratings?
Kill Kurt Angle?

I dunno...human life is more important than a temp. spike in ratings.
It's not like they're directly killing him, though, as much as they're letting him take elevated risks. I mean, are they going to put him in a sword fight against Abyss or something?
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Kurt Won't Save TNA: If he was never able to be a major draw in WWE (come on the ratings were never really high when he was champ). Will he help out in short term? Yeah, people will tune in for morbid curiosity, doesn't mean he will draw them so much money that they can suddenly start touring all over the country and draw thousands of people. Not even Kurt Fucking Angle, yes he may be one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. However, he can't turn crap television into gold. If so, the WWE wouldn't be having low PPV buyrates the last 4-5 years.
That is a good point. Plus, even if he does give them an initial spike it ratings, what good will it do if he injures himself in a month and can't wrestle anymore.
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It's not like they're directly killing him, though, as much as they're letting him take elevated risks. I mean, are they going to put him in a sword fight against Abyss or something?

Now that would be ratings.
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It's not like they're directly killing him, though, as much as they're letting him take elevated risks. I mean, are they going to put him in a sword fight against Abyss or something?
Really any strain on Kurt's neck can be killer. I seriously hope that Joe doesn't even try a Muscle Buster on him, it could really fuck him up.
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Really any strain on Kurt's neck can be killer. I seriously hope that Joe doesn't even try a Muscle Buster on him, it could really fuck him up.

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This is a fucking amazing thread. I like talking about future wrestler deaths alot better then past wrestler deaths.
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To be fair, working two days a month =/= more injuries, whether he's pushing himself more or not. That guy was on the road HOW much?

Now, I'll be happy to say that this is still stupid of Kurt, but whatever. I think I've already said in the past that TNA would mean a lesser work Schedule for Angle, which would benefit his health, and I stand by it. Ideally, he'd work "never," but he won't do that, and I'm not going to stop stupid people from killing themselves.
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Really any strain on Kurt's neck can be killer. I seriously hope that Joe doesn't even try a Muscle Buster on him, it could really fuck him up.
A number of these bumps and the strain they put on ANYONE'S neck COULD be killer. Like I said, Angle does have an elevated risk, but it's not like everyone else that steps into a wrestling ring is magically immune from suffering serious injury or even death.
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This is a fucking amazing thread. I like talking about future wrestler deaths alot better then past wrestler deaths.
Oh hell yeah. I want to see Kurt's head snap RIGHT THE FUCK OFF. That would be quality fucking television.
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To be fair, working two days a month =/= more injuries, whether he's pushing himself more or not. That guy was on the road HOW much?

Now, I'll be happy to say that this is still stupid of Kurt, but whatever. I think I've already said in the past that TNA would mean a lesser work Schedule for Angle, which would benefit his health, and I stand by it. Ideally, he'd work "never," but he won't do that, and I'm not going to stop stupid people from killing themselves.
Nor should TNA feel obligated to do so.
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I wont laugh if Kurt Angle dies because of this, but a big part of me wont be amazingly sympathetic.
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Oh hell yeah. I want to see Kurt's head snap RIGHT THE FUCK OFF. That would be quality fucking television.
That would make Joe the ultimate heel.
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That would make Joe the ultimate heel.
Especially if following that, he started wearing Kurt Angle's gold medal to the ring, covered in Kurt's blood from the match.
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Nah they wouldnt let Kurt wear that medal in the ring. He it might injure someone.
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Especially if following that, he started wearing Kurt Angle's gold medal to the ring, covered in Kurt's blood from the match.
Nah, he should start wearing Kurt's spine around his neck.
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Nah they wouldnt let Kurt wear that medal in the ring. He it might injure someone.
OBVIOUSLY it wouldn't be worn inside the ring for the duration of the match, but that doesn't mean he can't bring it to the ring with him.
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Nah, he should start wearing Kurt's spine around his neck.
Even better.
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OBVIOUSLY it wouldn't be worn inside the ring for the duration of the match, but that doesn't mean he can't bring it to the ring with him.

the spine or the medal?
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To be fair, working two days a month =/= more injuries, whether he's pushing himself more or not. That guy was on the road HOW much?

Now, I'll be happy to say that this is still stupid of Kurt, but whatever. I think I've already said in the past that TNA would mean a lesser work Schedule for Angle, which would benefit his health, and I stand by it. Ideally, he'd work "never," but he won't do that, and I'm not going to stop stupid people from killing themselves.
But see this wouldn't benefit Kurt's health if he is wrestling less in TNA, but wrestling at three times the pace he did in the WWE. And knowing Kurt he will want to wrestle all the time, so he will probably take bookings in ROH.

I just feel like we're all dirty for supporting this. It's like us supporting Eddie Guerrero while he was wrestling while addicted to painkillers. Kurt will die while in TNA and then you'll see AJ Styles dedicating everything he does to Kurt. And then Eric Angle will come back a feud with Styles and then Kurt's ex wife will come out and side with Eric.
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Nah, he should start wearing Kurt's spine around his neck.
And he should beat people with it.

West: OHMIGAWD MIKE HE'S BEATING DANIELS WITH KURT'S SPINE!

Or think about the promos he could do.

"I would challenge Kurt to a match, but I heard he's spineless."
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Nor should TNA feel obligated to do so.
Nope. And while I'd like to see a kinder, gentler business, the fact is, even if they don't stop Kurt, they're still leaps and bounds better than WWE.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:59 AM   #28
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But see this wouldn't benefit Kurt's health if he is wrestling less in TNA, but wrestling at three times the pace he did in the WWE.
See, that much, I'm not so sure of. I kinda side with KaneKnight on this issue. You have a very valid point when it comes to Kurt working ROH, TNA house shows, etc., etc., etc.
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All in all, we all know and it is well documented that Kurt will stop at nothing to be the best. WWE releasing him was a really, really stupid move. What was better, dealing with Angle's whinning and crying, but keeping him on a short leash, or releasing him to the wolves (NJPW, UFC, PRIDE) and letting him kill himself so that you can claim no responsibility for his death. I think that the no limits bullshit you guys are worried about is a joke. When was the last time Cage, or Jarrett had an X division style match for the belt. TNA heavyweight matches are no worse than WWE. I think working 2 a month is better that 280 days a year in WWE.
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But see this wouldn't benefit Kurt's health if he is wrestling less in TNA, but wrestling at three times the pace he did in the WWE.
See, that much, I'm not so sure of. I kinda side with KaneKnight on this issue. You have a very valid point when it comes to Kurt working ROH, TNA house shows, etc., etc., etc.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:27 PM   #31
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But see this wouldn't benefit Kurt's health if he is wrestling less in TNA, but wrestling at three times the pace he did in the WWE.
See, that much, I'm not so sure of. I kinda side with KaneKnight on this issue. You have a very valid point when it comes to Kurt working ROH, TNA house shows, etc., etc., etc.

Whoops. Sorry for the now TRIPLE post.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:38 PM   #32
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He signed with TNA?! Geez, the guy really doesn't learn.

It's sad, really, but if this is what he really wants to do, you can't fault him. At this rate, though, I DO expect Angle to either kill himself or cripple himself.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:45 PM   #33
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All in all, we all know and it is well documented that Kurt will stop at nothing to be the best. WWE releasing him was a really, really stupid move. What was better, dealing with Angle's whinning and crying, but keeping him on a short leash, or releasing him to the wolves (NJPW, UFC, PRIDE) and letting him kill himself so that you can claim no responsibility for his death. I think that the no limits bullshit you guys are worried about is a joke. When was the last time Cage, or Jarrett had an X division style match for the belt. TNA heavyweight matches are no worse than WWE. I think working 2 a month is better that 280 days a year in WWE.
I think I mentioned in a previous thread that if the WWE was really concerned about his health, they wouldn't have released him, just suspended him or something.

This is ass-covering, pure and simple, but I still think TNA's probably safer than he could be doing. Besides, it's really his call, stupid though his decision seems to be.
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:08 PM   #34
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I was thinking along the lines of wearing his pelvic bone as bling.
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OBVIOUSLY it wouldn't be worn inside the ring for the duration of the match, but that doesn't mean he can't bring it to the ring with him.

So you're saying Joe would snap his neck off, grab his medals and dip them into Kurts torso?

It could work. The ratings would be worth the purchase of all the life insurance plans. I'd probably pull the trigger on that storyline.
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:54 PM   #36
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I am curious as to why Kurt was really released. Like KK said, they would have suspended him if they wanted him to take time off to heal himself.
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Old 09-25-2006, 02:18 PM   #37
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I think WWE honestly thought that there was nothing else Kurt could do but sit at home and sulk, that it was WWE or nothing. I believe they're that jaded/full of themselves.
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No, but seriously you guys are ridiculous. Months ago when Kurt's pain addiction problem surface, everyone was like "OMG DON'T KILL YOURSELF, TAKE A BREAK, SLOW DOWN, etc."

When Kurt was released from his WWE contract, there was mixed feelings because people didn't want to see him leave yet people were glad he got a chance to rest and get his head on straight.

Now that he has signed with TNA, everyone is going apeshit saying how Angle is going to save TNA. How WWE now has competition and all of this other crap. Instead of saying that Angle is going to save TNA, you should be saying "TNA should save Angle." And if anyone here actually cares about Kurt as a human, they should not be so happy about him signing with TNA. Why? Well here are some facts and fictions about this TNA deal.

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No Limits: TNA doesn't have restrictions on their wrestling like WWE does. So what will Angle do? He will kick himself into overdrive. He will fall apart even more = more injuries = more painkillers = obiturary notice. I bet you guys will be marking out again then, right? Since people were so orgasmic over Angle's debut, that will make Angle work extra hard.

Too Much Self Pride: That's Kurt in a nutshell. Almost like Hulk Hogan in a way (yes, I'm comparing Angle to Hogan), Hogan doesn't know when to quit. Angle, doesn't know when to quit. Angle wants to be the best. Hogan wants to go over the best. Different? Yes, but the same in the light of things. Hogan keeps coming back because the casual fans mark out for him. Angle works his ass off way too much because the internet fans mark out for him. At that rate Angle will die before Hogan. And it's because of US Angle will die before Hogan. TNA PRESENTS: KURT ANGLE'S PUBLIC SUICIDE, LIVE ON PPV!

History: If Kurt wins the NWA World Title, he would be marking history. How many others have won the WWE, WCW, and NWA World Titles? Ric Flair is the only guy you can really think of. Do you think Kurt knows this and that's what's driving him in TNA?

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Less Of A Schedule = More Rest: Just because he would be working less of a schedule doesn't mean he will suddenly heal like Wolverine. If Angle's condition is bad enough that the WWE RELEASED HIM, then it's way more serious than just a few months of rest. And by now I would think you guys know that Angle works way to hard and hates being away from wrestling. So what will he do? He'll probably work for ROH, too. And much like TNA, they have no limits to how they wrestle. Way to go Kurt, you killed yourself in front of 500 fans wrestling Nigel Mcguiness (no knock on Nigel, but come on).

Kurt Won't Save TNA: If he was never able to be a major draw in WWE (come on the ratings were never really high when he was champ). Will he help out in short term? Yeah, people will tune in for morbid curiosity, doesn't mean he will draw them so much money that they can suddenly start touring all over the country and draw thousands of people. Not even Kurt Fucking Angle, yes he may be one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. However, he can't turn crap television into gold. If so, the WWE wouldn't be having low PPV buyrates the last 4-5 years.

So really are you really that happy to see Kurt wrestle that you are willing to watch him die? I mean if you want to watch Kurt wrestle, buy some DVDs with matches of him on it or download them.
I can appreciate that you're a huge Angle mark yet it's hilarious that you're chastizing everyone here for being happy about Angle being in TNA. To the best of my knowledge no one on the TPWW forums are Angle's parents, or Angle himself. He's a grown man. He's doing this to himself. If he wants to die doing what he loves it's beyond our control.
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I can appreciate that you're a huge Angle mark yet it's hilarious that you're chastizing everyone here for being happy about Angle being in TNA. To the best of my knowledge no one on the TPWW forums are Angle's parents, or Angle himself. He's a grown man. He's doing this to himself. If he wants to die doing what he loves it's beyond our control.
What he does is his own business, yes. But I don't think people should be thrilled that he is doing this to himself. Why don't we all just set up a "Kurt Angle Painkiller" Fund so we can help support his painkiller addiction so he won't have to feel his neck snapping.

I'd rather not see Kurt Angle ever again than to watch him die in the ring.

Call me nutty, but that's how I feel.
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