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Old 12-16-2006, 02:36 AM   #1
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Do you think the Marks know?
The way WWE self promotes itself, you'd think they were at the peak of their popularity. And certainly most people don't bother with stats on ratings. And for the most part Marks seem to eat up the shit shoveled in their faces. But for the remaining fans of WWE, who are neither children or internet savy, do you think they realise that Pro Wrestling lost the "cool" label like 5 years ago? I don't know. There was a time were someone could make a "Oh Hell Yeah" coupled with flipping the bird and everyone got it and went along with it. I don't think you can do a "You Can't See Me!" with the hand gesture and get the normal non-wrestling fan to aknowledge you as anything more than a slightly retarded individual. So, I pose the question...what percentage of the marks ages 15-25 do you think are blissfully unaware that wrestling is no longer "pop culture" and is just back to being "stupid/white trash"?

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I would have no problem with HBK getting a farewell run with the title before he retires.

With that said though, there is no belt in the industry that HBK could win that would add to his career. HBK's career is built around him being HBK, not winning a bunch of titles.
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Old 12-16-2006, 02:39 AM   #2
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Old 12-16-2006, 02:39 AM   #3
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90%, the same amount that became aware and stopped watching.
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Old 12-16-2006, 03:05 AM   #4
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1998, I got so many wolfpac hand signals in Vegas when I wore my Wolfpac shirt that my mom thought I'd joined a gang.

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Old 12-16-2006, 03:07 AM   #5
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:47 AM   #6
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Back in 1999, Wrestling was cool for a short six month period in the UK. Everyone knew who the Rock, Stone Cold and the Undertaker were and you'd see the occassional wrestling shirt also.

Currently, if I see a wrestling shirt its meant to be one of those ironic or retro things like one of those trendy Ramones tees or mullet haircut. In other words, it's not intentionally cool.

I probably know about three guys who still watch wrestling, compared to six years ago whenever every guy my age knew what a stone cold stunner was. And of these three guys I talk to, only one watches WWE, and even then it's not regularly.
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:48 AM   #7
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Gotta go with Jimmy. The exact percentage is TNA%.
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Old 12-16-2006, 10:56 AM   #8
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I think the marks know. look at the number of people who wear wrestling Tees publically these days. Down. Nobody, not even marks, seem to want to advertise. Except for a very small number of kids and "Eugenes."
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Old 12-16-2006, 01:19 PM   #9
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Oh yea, they definitely know. I know alot of guys who will say they used to watch when they were little kids(around the end of Hogan's years in WWE) and then again in middle school/junior high(Attitude Era). It's like the whole "New Generation" didn't even happen for them.
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Old 12-16-2006, 04:13 PM   #10
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Old 12-16-2006, 06:26 PM   #11
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:09 PM   #12
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1998, I got so many wolfpac hand signals in Vegas when I wore my Wolfpac shirt that my mom thought I'd joined a gang.

Wrestling will never be that good again.
People pretty much did that to me too, when I wore my Wolfpac shirt. It was awesome.

I agree that wrestling will never be that good again. Well never say never, but it's not hapening anytime soon.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:17 PM   #13
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The nWo was HUGE! Bigger than wrestling. Hell I remember people would through nWo parties, people who didn't even watch wrestling would throw them and come to them. The nWo was one of the few things that totally went beyond the entire industry.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:04 PM   #14
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People used to buy nWo merch having never watched the programming, so yeah. That's pretty incredible.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:08 PM   #15
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It didn't hurt that Ted threw the nWo stuff everywhere he could and convinced Leno to aknowledge them...still...incredible.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:14 PM   #16
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Still, this'd be like the Aryan nation wearing Snoop Dogg T-Shirts.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:54 PM   #17
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:55 PM   #18
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I think the marks know. look at the number of people who wear wrestling Tees publically these days. Down. Nobody, not even marks, seem to want to advertise. Except for a very small number of kids and "Eugenes."
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:35 AM   #19
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To be perfectly honest, I think the ones that doubt the coolness of professional wrestling are smarks. So to answer your question, no, I don't believe marks realise the WWE is not cool.

Random note: I don't think TNA fans believe for a minute that wrestling is cool. I think they believe that TNA is the answer to the industry's problem, but I don't think they think they're being watched by millions upon millions of people every week.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:37 AM   #20
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To be perfectly honest, I think the ones that doubt the coolness of professional wrestling are smarks. So to answer your question, no, I don't believe marks realise the WWE is not cool.
Which is why they go around spouting catchphrases and buying the merch to wear.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:10 AM   #21
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Which is why they go around spouting catchphrases and buying the merch to wear.
I didn't say there were many marks left.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:11 AM   #22
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So...I still ask...what percentage of the marks do you think are blissfully unaware that wrestling is nerdy again?
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So...I still ask...what percentage of the marks do you think are blissfully unaware that wrestling is nerdy again?
~90%

The other rough 10% probably just don't care, and think that caring is what allows people to fail, and why the world sucks.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:22 AM   #24
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:57 AM   #25
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I didn't say there were many marks left.
Apparently, there are now 10. Everyone else is a smark.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:34 AM   #26
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Apparently, there are now 10. Everyone else is a smark.
The WWE sells more than 10 shirts a year. Especially to the younger kids.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:41 AM   #27
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Old 12-18-2006, 03:21 PM   #28
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Old 12-18-2006, 03:46 PM   #29
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1998, I got so many wolfpac hand signals in Vegas when I wore my Wolfpac shirt that my mom thought I'd joined a gang.

Wrestling will never be that good again.

That is fucking sweet.

Why wasn't I old enough to be a part of this?
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My brother-in-law I wouldn't even fully classify as a mark, and he doesn't seem to really get it.
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