What do you want for SVR08?

[Kane Knight]

Maybe it's a bit early, but since it's been announced (Not by name, but there will be a new game for almost every system), and I've spent a lot of time playing the current SVR and complaining, I'm wondering what others' have on their wishlist. Here's a "short list" of mine:

• Custom Mix Entrance Themes: There is really no excuse not to have this on the 360 and PS3.
• More CAW options: They neutered SVR07, and I'm at a loss as to why. New games are supposed to get bigger and better, not get stripped down. This includes none of this bullshit "No online" stuff, the moves, and the options. And for God's Sake, give us better facial editing. Also, more voice options if there's a voiceover.
• Generically, a better story mode: This means either no voiceovers, or voiceovers with more branching. The new Storymode is better than the last one, but still lame compared to previous versions.
• Broader roster. I don't care if you have to put in jobbers, just give us more playable people.
• More alternate costumes, or just remove them. At this point, it's lame that you have a handful of people with alts, and generally sucky ones. The best option is Kane with/out mask, but even that should go if people aren't going to see more alts.
• Better opponent select system. I hate allthe options currently, and it's the ONLY thing that stops me from enjoying six man matches.
• Hit detection: I think 07 took a step back, and we need to fix that for 08.
• ECW in GM Mode. I'd love to see three-way booking. The only catch is, they'd need to be treated like the other shows.
• More and better rivalry options. Even in wrestling, you get face v face storylines. Why not at least put some in? I'm not saying every rivalry has to allow clean versus clean, but sometimes it makes sense. More tag team rivalry options, too.
• Speaking of GM mode, tracking multiple seasons, and perhaps a "chemistry" measure for wrestlers depending on their backgrounds (constant rivals v team mates). Sort people by two extra categories: Used on Show, and Fatigue when booking.
• KO sensitivity. I like the Knockout option, but it's too fucking easy to do so.

I've probably got more, but that's all I can think of. Most of these are just flatout fixes for SVR, and very few are legit new content. They are still what I want to see, though most of them (Alternate costumes) are pipe dreams.

[M-A-G]

Better commentary.
Bring back the generic entrance themes or allow for uploading of music.
More tag team stable creation options.
Allow for roster editing.
More moves from the create-a-wrestler mode.
A better create-a-wrestler mode period.
Outfit editing. I've never understood why they never had this.
Get rid of the analog control system.
Stop making the champion enter first.
Better Hell in a Cell mode.

[Astley316]

I think they need to put more championships into the season mode so you can challenege for the US title and Intercontinental belts. Also a more varid tag team title storyline.

Online id like to see more then 4 people matches. A MITB match online would be cool as would an elimantion chamber. Last when your oppenent quits a ranked match you get the win, number of people who just quit when you beat them, bloody annoying.

I dont really play GM mode but id like to see the actual stories that you create for the different wrestlers and feuds.

Last the abillity to put your own tunes from your hard drive on your caws.

[Xero]

Get rid of the "Impossible to Pick Up" weight class. It's so frustrating when someone picks Khali online.

Also, they've got to fix the online lag.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by M-A-G Get rid of the analog control system.

If you mean the analog to grapple, then yeah, I agree. This is fucking awful. It's okay when you use it to do things like grapple only, but running grapples and other similar things are now so counterintuitive.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Astley316 I dont really play GM mode but id like to see the actual stories that you create for the different wrestlers and feuds.

The feuds as they are now are really storylines. I don't know if this is what you mean, but you hire writers to come up with angles to use. Undisputed Champion, Battle of the Titans, etc.

And Xero, I agree. That's just retarded. As is this new "If I kick you, I reel" thing, when it eliminates most of the moves that set up a finisher.

[Kalyx triaD]

If someone already posted anything I write, that only means it's needed that much more...

-For fuck-sake custom entrance themes and if they have a pow-wow with the 2K Sports guys; an option to kick off your music at any point within the track (NFL 2K5).
-Online Royal Rumble.
-No loading times between winning and actually celebrating, c'mon. That kills the climax of a good match.
-Ultimate Grapple moves take way too much Stamina, they're almost not worth the trouble.
-The ongoing reversal system is cool... WHEN IT HAPPENS. It should happen more frequently.
-Some cruiserweight/lightweights can pick up Shawn Micheals... The Weight Detection is too strict. A Superstar's power rating and current 'Spirit' should be added to the equation. I'm sure Mysterio could slam HHH if he was pumped enough.
-If I do a Superkick to anyone holding a chair; that should be a Van-Daminator right there. Physics should play a role in the hit-detection.

More later.

[Just John]

I think the weight class thing was good when it was at its most simple, cruiserweights couldn't lift up guys like the big show. The added beauty of that was that there were more cruiserweight moves anyway, so Rey Rey didn't really suplex anyone anyway. Now its turned ridiculous, striking moves have no effect on anyone who isnt a cruiserweight.

I think the gameplay is too slow, I mean, I dont want it fast and frantic, but in HCTP you could sort of change the pace of the match yourself. Heavier guys grappled more, cruiserweights flew around.

Fighting in the crowd was good, I thought the CPU would always go there, but its not like that at all.

Hardcore matches should be improved, its one thing to not be able to go backstage, but its another when there are only about 4 different weapons to use.

Analogue grappling was a big fuss over nothing, when you take away the ultimate control moves, it was just the usual system put on an analogue stick. I did like walking around on a suplex and using the right stick to do stuff though.

I think the seperation between strong and quick grapple moves was stupid, we didn't need 4 extra crap moves.


Without being pretty complicated I cant think of a way to have more moves, I do wonder if we actually need more, I think if THQ worked on allowing the player to manipulate and modify the moves more (They started this on 07) it would work alot better than trying to have loads of button combinations and cramming in more moves.

I'm gonna do a list in here of what I liked and what should be changed soon. Gonna try and cover all angles.

[D Mac]

Yes custom music.

[owenbrown]

The ability to attack the commentators on the outside of the ring regardless of whether or not their table is broken. Just for fun and to occasionally shut up JR/King and Cole/Tazz(or JBL)


Oh.... and can they please change the belt design of the Intercontinental title to the current one with the nameplate when it's being worn? They have been using the same design without it since I believe "SD!: Shut Your Mouth"

[Xero]

Originally Posted by owenbrown The ability to attack the commentators on the outside of the ring regardless of whether or not their table is broken. Just for fun and to occasionally shut up JR/King and Cole/Tazz(or JBL)

That would add two more characters on-screen. They could add interactions without making them actual characters though. Like if you go up to a table you can smack one of them or if there's no table push one out of their seat and take their chair.

[owenbrown]

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 That would add two more characters on-screen. They could add interactions without making them actual characters though. Like if you go up to a table you can smack one of them or if there's no table push one out of their seat and take their chair.

The referee is a NPC in the game yet you can strike him(although depending on the options can lead to a DQ), why not the commentators? At least make the ability to strike the PBP guys (JR or Cole, as they are the most annoying in the game) Lawler/Tazz would probably just end up being unlockable legends in 08 just like in 07 anyway.

[Xero]

The ref isn't in all matches, though. There is already a bit of slow-down with six men, adding two more (singles matches would have five) will really fuck things up.

[M-A-G]

Bra and Panties needs to make its return.

[owenbrown]

They really should fix the issue that is causing the slowdown in six-man matches(tag, battle royal, HIAC, Elimination Chamber, etc.)


And maybe they could add numerous interactions where you can run-in and attack your opponent(s) before the match begins.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD -The ongoing reversal system is cool... WHEN IT HAPPENS. It should happen more frequently.

Play on hard or legend. One of my biggest complaints is actually that this shit happens every fucking move. And sadly, it's not that cool, because you only have like four reversals.

Originally Posted by Just John I think the weight class thing was good when it was at its most simple, cruiserweights couldn't lift up guys like the big show. The added beauty of that was that there were more cruiserweight moves anyway, so Rey Rey didn't really suplex anyone anyway. Now its turned ridiculous, striking moves have no effect on anyone who isnt a cruiserweight.

Yeah, and as said, there needs to be some other factor. Count strength and momentum? I think for example, finishers should count you as a size class larger or whatever.

[Ninti the Mad]

I would have to say:

-Customized soundtrack entrances

-The ability to fight your way around the arena. I dont mean the actual crowds but behind the titantron, around the hallways, and even end up in a parking lot. I hate that if you want to fight somewhere else other than the ring, they only gave two options, and it blew chunks.

-CAW was painful with shitty selection.

-Oh, and obviously a better story mode. Maybe some kind of randomization technique that mixes what matches you are going to have and what shots you will get depending on your crowd interaction/reaction. Not the same routine for every wrestler... (smackdown seperate storyline of course)

I dont care too much about collision detection. It's decent and as long as I can fight wherever I wanted to I would be happy.

[Xero]

I liked DOR's collision detection where if you, say, powerbombed someone into someone else they fell down. I used to pick up sweet shit like that, like F-5ing someone into someone else for the win.

Same with the tables, you should be able to hit anything through them as long as you touch it.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 I liked DOR's collision detection where if you, say, powerbombed someone into someone else they fell down. I used to pick up sweet shit like that, like F-5ing someone into someone else for the win. Same with the tables, you should be able to hit anything through them as long as you touch it.

They need to tone it down, but yes.

[ClockShot]

- Custom entrances and music.

- The ability to upload your own music. Not use the garbage they got now.

- Throw in a few more legends to unlock. A nice handful each year (if they still keep making them) would be nice.

- Revamp the controls. The analog they got now does not work for me.

- A better story mode. Something totally random each time you play. Not something you gotta win and lose to unlock a new line.

- CPU tag partners should come in automatically to break up a pin or submission on you.

[Kalyx triaD]

-NO MORE VOICE-OVERS.
-This might be much, but I want the look of the wrestlers to alter has a long much goes on. Like elbow pads sliding off, clothes getting stained with blood, tape coming loose... Aside from sweat and blood, could more be added to show that you had a war?
-Stacking a table on top of another is stupid and broken, do it right or take it out.
-Switching focus with the Back button is dumb; if I'm not sacrificing movement, I'm pressing the XB Guide button by mistake. How about clicking the Left Stick while pointing in the direction of a desired target?
-How come when I chocksalm some bloke out of the ring to the floor, the crowd doesn't react? How come when I do that ground grapple where I kick someone in the back the crowd goes nuts? This is simple trigger programing: Certain moves or criteria gets executed = Crowd goes bananas.
-2K Sports could also teach them a thing or two about commentary.

[Kane Knight]

Also, they shouldn't call my "counter" just because I hit the button.

For example, when banking a finisher. It's not a counter!

[Johnny Vegas]

Man, they need to have a first person mode with all the matches to participate in. Its in my "random being high" thread but i just think jumping off some ladder through a table with the vibration very sensitive would kick global ass. It wouldn't take like mad diskspace. Hell, they did it in the NFL2k series.

[MTH15]

Cpu doesn't always counter moves.
20-30 man Battle Royal. No name tags except players....easy eliminations.
Royal Rumble/Battle Royal specials when opponents are leaned on the ropes. Like a sweet chin music over the ropes
Online royal rumble
No lag and make online more ADDICTIVE

[Destor]

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD -Some cruiserweight/lightweights can pick up Shawn Micheals... The Weight Detection is too strict. A Superstar's power rating and current 'Spirit' should be added to the equation. I'm sure Mysterio could slam HHH if he was pumped enough.

I'm pretty sure the instruction manual said if you're IN special that you can defy the lift deal. I've never paid attention to it, but meh.

[M-A-G]

I tried to F-U Khali as Cena. No dice.

[Kane Knight]

Didn't work with Daivari vs...Well, anyone.

[crock69]

Downloadable content i.e. new wrestlers, storylines, roster updates, etc...

[Fryza]

Originally Posted by M-A-G Better commentary. Bring back the generic entrance themes or allow for uploading of music. More tag team stable creation options. Allow for roster editing. More moves from the create-a-wrestler mode. A better create-a-wrestler mode period. Outfit editing. I've never understood why they never had this. Get rid of the analog control system. Stop making the champion enter first. Better Hell in a Cell mode.

I'd prefer voice-overs taken out altogether to be honest. It's more annoying than anything else to me.

-TWO PERSON SEASON. My friends and I had a ball doing tag seasons in the older games.
-Stat editting for real characters.
-Women in season or take them out.
-Create feature needs rehauled, badly.
-If you're going to have rock/rap hits in the game, choose some that won't need to be censored, or more altogether.

[Just John]

Weight detection could end up Superstar specific, I know THQ aren't the cleverest guys, but it would save problems.

Wishlist

-More and better everything. It may sound like I'm asking for alot, but I'm talking about the bare bones. Better graphics, more superstars, legends, Create parts, etc. Pretty straightforward.

-Backstage arenas: You'll probably get sick of me going on about HCTP, but backstage arenas like that would be pretty good, I'm not asking for anything overboard. They could tie hardcore matches up with the pointless 'brawl' matches and get a decent result from it.

-Variety in weapons could be greatly improved if they were drawn at random from under the ring, I.E instead of going to the bottom side for a chair, you could go at any side, and pull out a random weapon (from a choice of 15 say) mabye making chairs more common than fire extinguishers.

-Ladder matches would be great if instead of finding a sweet spot, you have to set up a ladder in the exact right place, and if you do, you get a submission-like button bash bar to 'weaken' the belt from its catch. What would also be great is if two extra ladders could be pulled from under the ring, their size varying at random (20 foot ones for insane leaps).

-A.I should be improved, working on the weak spots etc.

-Physics need a complete overhaul, I dont know how 'possible' it is, but powerbombs onto chairs that are just lying around would be good.

-More Noise from the crowd, during matches they are pretty quiet, and almost mute during entrances, I should hear a huge pop for face entrances, and loads of boos for heels. Half assed cheers should be for low carders/cruiserweights.

-Commentary should be less annoying, rather than calling each other names, they should actually call the moves, seeing JR get some wrong would be pretty funny actually.

-Belts need to be a tiny bit smaller and not look so stiff

-CAW needs some brushing up, the photo system is kinda useless IMO, I can never get a good picture. When it was a blue outline everyone knew it was a created wrestler, with the little box it just makes people say "WTF is that?"

-CAM (Create a moveset) needs some more moves, but more importantly, the moves you have shouldn't be changed because you are of a certain weight.

-CAB isn't too bad, a little brushing up here and there. I've heard of a glitch (but havent experienced it myself) that should be fixed too.

-CAE needs to be made more simple, with more non-superstar entrances, it was so hard to find one that didn't include some kind of weird posing or running to the ring.

-Custom music is an absolute MUST, even if I have to insert my MP3 player into the PS2/3 USB port to upload it.

-Thumbtacks would be great if you could pick up a bag, empty them, and any moves done onto them does double damage.

-Moves to be more manipulative, instead of pressing R3 and doing it like that, it should be done like if you pick someone up for a suplex, there is a window of opportunity where you can press something that will keep them up there so you can walk around, taunt, 'pump' them and drop them (mabye a choice of forward and backwards.

The beauty of this method is that you aren't forced to do it, but it is there for your taking in am easier more flexable manner. It could be done with LOADS of other moves too, even if there is only a taunt option.

-Hotspots are good, keep them.

-Fighting in the crowd is cool, but I wouldn't lose sleep if it were to be removed.

-Quick grapples should be taken out, they were useless and only caused confusion.

-Season mode should be like HCTP, you always kept track of every week, even if you weren't involved. Not only did season last longer, but it also had loads of storylines involved. Some of which were actually really enjoyable. I remember laughing like a maniac as I ran over goldbergs car with a monster truck.

-Season, talking to people backstage like in HCTP should return. Not free roaming around, but you could glance into various areas to check and spark off storylines GM office was good too.

-GM mode was a pretty good idea, just pulled off badly, I really can't think of ways to improve it because I didn't really use it too much, so I'll leave that up to yourself.

-Finishers need a major re-animation session, I did like the way that moves like the 619 and the Sweet Chin Music were always done using the rope nearest to where you do the finisher. Took me a while for me to notice.

-The ref should keep his distance more, only walking towards you during submissions, pins and dirty moves.

-Challenges were cool, mabye a little more variety needed

-Locker room was good, but essentially useless. My heart would sink a little if it were to be removed

-Attires need work done. Despite persistance from the fans, we are STILL getting Triple H and JBL in a suit, the Kane mask thing was a good idea though.

-Also for season, the experience being able to be used on yourself from HCTP should come back, it was great for sorting out stat errors, especially as they were kept for exhibition too.

-Titles in exhibition was great, loved that

-Interaction with the announcers shouldn't be massive, but it should be made more interactive itself, mabye use of the chairs they sit on, a ring bell, the belt if there is a champion in a match.

-Voice overs, if they were to make season mode decent again, then I'd be welcome to see it go, but somehow I dont think we've seen the last of it.


Just a little brainstorm there.

[M-A-G]

One little note about the locker room: MORE, MORE, MORE!!! The current set-up is good but it just feels like it's screaming for more features and room pieces. Right now mine is a shrine to Mickie James.

[Disturbed316]

- Online faggot quiters:

This was my ultimate annoyance from 07. They should do it like Pro Evo did, if someone quit, it automatically gave the other guy the win. These fags need to be punished

- Create an entrance:

Nothing major needs to be done here as it was pretty good in 07, but they need to sought out that belt glitch

- Downloadable content:

Come on now, pretty much all 360 games have this, why not the Smackdown series.

- Custom Entrance Music:

Wasn't too bothered by it's exclusion, but it would be pretty awesome to have.

- Better rewards for challenges:

Or better things to buy with the shitty amount of money you get.

- More storylines without repeat:

While some in 07 were good, some were not so good, but it still felt like WWE programing (I'm still waiting to see that magic storyline pop up on Raw anytime soon). The thing that annoyed me the most was how repeated they were, even when we were told we could go through numerous times without seeing the same one.

Thats about it for now.

[MTH15]

Oops forgot some stuff
-No commentary
-I said RR specials....but ladder specials and table specials.
-(comment) yea downloadable content would be great
-(comment) 2 person story mode would be genius

[Xero]

For the downloadable content, I noticed that it says "none online" or something in CAW. Apparently it's implemented but they're just not using it, at least for decals and what-not.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 - Online faggot quiters: This was my ultimate annoyance from 07. They should do it like Pro Evo did, if someone quit, it automatically gave the other guy the win. These fags need to be punished - Create an entrance: Nothing major needs to be done here as it was pretty good in 07, but they need to sought out that belt glitch - Downloadable content: Come on now, pretty much all 360 games have this, why not the Smackdown series. - Custom Entrance Music: Wasn't too bothered by it's exclusion, but it would be pretty awesome to have. - Better rewards for challenges: Or better things to buy with the shitty amount of money you get. - More storylines without repeat: While some in 07 were good, some were not so good, but it still felt like WWE programing (I'm still waiting to see that magic storyline pop up on Raw anytime soon). The thing that annoyed me the most was how repeated they were, even when we were told we could go through numerous times without seeing the same one. Thats about it for now.

Quitters never prosper. And they shouldn't in SVR. I think Disconnecting should give you a win, and them a loss. Lost your connection? It happens, sorry. It's happened to me.

CAE needs more and better pyros.

Totally with you on challenges.

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 For the downloadable content, I noticed that it says "none online" or something in CAW. Apparently it's implemented but they're just not using it, at least for decals and what-not.

Huh?

[Xero]

At one of the CAW screens, it says something like "no patterns online".

Hold on, gonna check.

[Xero]

Never mind, thought it was something else. It's just the indicator whether you can go online with that CAW or not.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, that's why I was confused.

"No Online" is one of my gripes. No tats, and limited layers, or you can't get online. It's fucking shitty, too.

[M-A-G]

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 - - More storylines without repeat: While some in 07 were good, some were not so good, but it still felt like WWE programing (I'm still waiting to see that magic storyline pop up on Raw anytime soon). The thing that annoyed me the most was how repeated they were, even when we were told we could go through numerous times without seeing the same one. Thats about it for now.

My friend told me he's pretty sure you have to do season as a created wrestler. Although no doubt everyone's already done that so I don't know.

[Morrisey]

My wishlist:

GM Mode:

- It would be nice to have the option of cut-scenes for rivalries, promos etc, and even better if you could take control of the latter so you can decide where the rivalry is going. It would make the promo actually mean something, and say if it was a PPV match challenge then it could result in more ratings for the PPV and a storyline on WWE.com. Also, it could add to or subtract from the superstar's ability to cut promos, which in turn would affect ratings.

- More storylines for rivalries!

- Why do you have to have the same people fighting every week to continue a rivalry? It would be better if the announcers could talk about the feud(briefly) and upcoming PPV match during the entrance or match, or even if you could add more backstage promos etc to keep the rivalry going.

It just gets annoying having titles switch over constantly to keep both guys looking strong during a feud. If they absolutely HAVE to be involved in the same match, why not have the option for them to interfere in the match? Which leads me to my next point....

- It would be cool(and much, much quicker) if you could decide on the winner and how they win(i.e. disqualification, submission etc) and if any factors determined the outcome(screwjob, injury, interference etc) without having to play the match!

- If you do control a superstar in the match, the match rating should be dependent upon match quality as well as the popularity of the superstars involved.

- Pushes and de-pushes: if you think a certain superstar needs to be rewarded for hard work and good behaviour, or punished for the opposite, then you should be able to do so. Let's say match outcomes are more dependent upon which superstar you are more behind(so to speak lol) at the moment?

- Belt popularity(for the main belts) should be easy to implement, it's already on the CAB mode - this could be determined by title defenses, how long a superstar has had the belt etc as before.

Create-A-Championship:

- Need options to use them in Season and GM Mode please!

- More customization - you should be able to choose whether you have a nameplate or not, as that often gets in the way of part of the centreplate. Or maybe have the option to move it so it is not in the way of anything important.

- Why not customize already existing belts? It would be great if you could edit or create alternatives(i.e. spinner versions) for already existing belts.

- Seeing as WWE owns the rights to so many of the old libraries, why not have some of these belts as pre-made options?

Unlockables:

- They should take note from some of the earlier games and not just have Legends as Unlockables, but also have lower level wrestlers and jobbers as unlockables too.

- It would be cool if they also include up-and-coming guys from OVW, this would make it easy for us to make some changes when/if they get called up to the WWE roster.....

- KEEP LEGENDS FROM PREVIOUS GAMES! And while you're at it, add new ones too!

- Downloadable content is a must, and really should have been added before now.


Sorry if anyone has already included any of these.